Thanks for the effort

Are you saying PCPS ARE generally experts in nutrition?

I can tell you 100% that my PCP sent me to a sleep specialist for sleep problems. She didn’t dare try to address them beyond some very basis (aka PCP-type) “have you tried these things”.

so again - some of your posts recently sound like you have medical training of some sort. Do you? You’ve certainly questioned some of us, and dismissed some of us for lack of “expert” training. What about you?

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Copy/paste in chrome on a computer! :smiley:

(Not sure if it works on mobile. Doesn’t work in firefox.)

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Now that’s a “Karen” I can relate to lol

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PCP’s aren’t the reining experts when it really comes down to human nutrition either. However there is a baseline expectation and a support (referral) network. And it becomes more nuanced depending on the issue. However, depending on the context, dietary fat can indeed be “bad” even without a formal diagnosis. Such advice is not automatically incorrect. I would be very surprised to hear a physician say all dietary fat is bad as a blanket statement, though.

There are many types of experts in addition to practicing medical professionals. MD’s in PRACTICE are just the ones people tend to think of first. Not sure why. Just the other day someone called you out on a supposed vet degree.

The “experts” in the context used earlier in this thread refer to those doing research and therefore keep up with and have access to the latest. Or they are in school, immersed in the latest. Generally these are the only ones who can say “there is no research backing up…” and have it actually mean something. Otherwise, it doesn’t.

Now the reality is experts rarely use such finite wording regardless, because they understand the nuances of their field.

I have told you as much about myself as I will be telling you. I am not in the practice of flashing nor name dropping. Thanks.

This thread started out with a very basic question. I can’t say I am not surprised it wasn’t answered to my satisfaction. Questions often aren’t. It evolved into some topics I find quite interesting, and ended up being informative nonetheless.

PCP’s aren’t the reigning experts when it really comes down to human nutrition either. However there is a baseline expectation and a support (referral) network. And it becomes more nuanced depending on the issue. However, depending on the context, dietary fat can indeed be “bad” even without a formal diagnosis. Such advice is not automatically incorrect. I would be very surprised to hear a physician say all dietary fat is bad as a blanket statement, though.

There are many types of experts in addition to practicing medical professionals. MD’s in PRACTICE are just the ones people tend to think of first. Not sure why. Just the other day someone called you out on a supposed vet degree.

The “experts” in the context used earlier in this thread refer to those doing research and therefore keep up with and have access to the latest. Or they are in school, immersed in the latest. Generally these are the only ones who can say “there is no research backing up…” and have it actually mean something. Otherwise, it doesn’t.

Now the reality is experts rarely use such finite wording regardless, because they understand the nuances of their field.

I have told you as much about myself as I will be telling you. I am not in the practice of flashing nor name dropping. Thanks.

This thread started out with a very basic question. I can’t say I am not surprised it wasn’t answered to my satisfaction. Questions often aren’t. It evolved into some topics I find quite interesting, and ended up being informative nonetheless.

Or you can lead a human to knowledge, but you can’t make them think.

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PCP’s aren’t the reigning experts when it really comes down to human nutrition either. However there is a baseline expectation and a support (referral) network. And it becomes more nuanced depending on the issue. However, depending on the context, dietary fat can indeed be “bad” even without a formal diagnosis. Such advice is not automatically incorrect. I would be very surprised to hear a physician say all dietary fat is bad as a blanket statement, though.

There are many types of experts in addition to practicing medical professionals. MD’s in PRACTICE are just the ones people tend to think of first. Not sure why. For example, just the other day someone called you out on a supposed vet degree.

The “experts” in the context used earlier in this thread refer to those doing research and therefore keep up with and have access to the latest. Or they are in school, immersed in the latest. Generally these are the only ones who can say “there is no research backing up…” and have it mean something. Otherwise, it doesn’t.

Now the reality is experts rarely use such finite wording regardless, because they understand the nuances of their fields.

I have told you as much about myself as I will be telling you. I am not in the practice of flashing nor name dropping. Thanks.

This thread started out with a very basic question. I can’t say I am not surprised it wasn’t answered to my satisfaction. Questions often aren’t. It evolved into some topics I find quite interesting, and ended up being informative nonetheless.

I believe you likely have a history with this one JB. So much gobblygook above. Common denominator is poking you. yawn

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Do you actually even read what I write? That’s exactly what I said :confused:

However there is a baseline expectation and a support (referral) network. And it becomes more nuanced depending on the issue. However, depending on the context, dietary fat can indeed be “bad” even without a formal diagnosis. Such advice is not automatically incorrect. I would be very surprised to hear a physician say all dietary fat is bad as a blanket statement, though.

Again - Read. What. I. Wrote. Yes, there are absolutely PCPs out there who subscribe to 30 year old nutritional research that said dietary fat was bad for our health.

There are many types of experts in addition to practicing medical professionals. MD’s in PRACTICE are just the ones people tend to think of first. Not sure why.

And that has to do with…what exacly?

For example, just the other day someone called you out on a supposed vet degree.

You really need to keep your posters straight. Or stop making stuff up :rolleyes:

Nobody has “called me out” because I have never, not in all the years here, claimed to have any degree, never implied I did. Yes, several people have asked if I am a vet, or a nutritionist, and I never hide the fact that I’m not. I have told people I do not have formal education in any veterinary or nutritional field. I’ve never said otherwise, never hid that.

The “experts” in the context used earlier in this thread refer to those doing research and therefore keep up with and have access to the latest. Or they are in school, immersed in the latest. Generally these are the only ones who can say “there is no research backing up…” and have it mean something. Otherwise, it doesn’t.

So which is is? Some has to be a professional to be believed, or they don’t? If I’ve spent the last almost 20 years researching and keeping up with some of the latest and greatest on equine nutrition and parasite management, doesn’t that make me an expert by your definition?

Now the reality is experts rarely use such finite wording regardless, because they understand the nuances of their fields.

I don’t even know what you’re talking about

I have told you as much about myself as I will be telling you. I am not in the practice of flashing nor name dropping. Thanks.

:lol: :lol: :lol: So, you’re ok with asking what degree others have, you’re ok with making up that I was “called you out on a supposed vet degree”, but are 100% unwilling to answer a really simple question. I don’t care if you are or aren’t a medical student, or someone with a medical degree, I don’t care if it’s biology or chemistry or neuroscience or physics or whatever else. I merely observed that some of your latest posts have a science-y feel to is, and found that really curious given your (apparent) inability to do your own research, or read some of the publications presented to you in a futile attempt to answer your very, very confusing questions.

I couldn’t care less, but if you’re not willing to answer a simple question, you have no right to ask it of others.

This thread started out with a very basic question.

No, actually, it didn’t. Maybe to you it seemed simple, but as you should have clearly figured out early on, exactly no one really understood what you were after.

I can’t say I am not surprised it wasn’t answered to my satisfaction. Questions often aren’t. It evolved into some topics I find quite interesting, and ended up being informative nonetheless.

I’m not surprised either, since the question was so “can you guess what’s behind my back” without any clue as to context or any other tidbits of information you dangled over our heads (whatever you heard and its context from your “trusted source”)

I’m out. I have no formal education in anything you seem interested in, so I’m not playing your game any more.

Trust me, you’re not the only one wondering :wink:

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You should recheck some premises.

The person in question stated she had an MS. What I asked was what year she received it. For the same reasons that you have stated above.

Additionally, someone did call you out on the supposed vet degree. Just the other day in the thread in my signature. If you choose to interpret my mentioning the situation as accusing you of something, that is certainly a choice.

This is a public forum. There should be no surprises about the lack of information shared.

I’ll wait for you to quote the comment. Nobody could call me out for something I didn’t imply, let alone outright lie about. Anyone who’s known me here for any reasonable length of time knows I freely admit I don’t have any degree in science, veterinary or otherwise.

Have people asked me if I do have one? Absolutely. And every time I tell them I don’t. 100%.

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Sea Lioning at its finest JB. Google it. You’re wasting your valuable time with a troll.

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Ooo, new term, I’ve never heard that before! Seems about right though :yes:

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Wow! Learn something new every day :slight_smile:

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Again. Your interpretation. Your choice.

Equkelly to me:
2) Also where did you go to vet school? You didn’t say but surely it must be a really really good one if you’re able to make such claims so I’m super curious.

That’s hysterical!

Here’s my comment which prompted that one:

"Not knowing what kind of enteritis she had, many forms are caused by an infection. You can’t prevent that in its entirety. Most issues of acute enteritis have nothing to do with management. Hopefully your vet has educated you on what kind of enteritis exactly, so you can be researching down the right rabbit hole.

It’s HIGHLY unlikely that this product would have prevented this in the first place."

Just so we’re all on the same page :encouragement: That poster was miffed that she couldn’t get colic insurance (right after enteritis) even if she paid full price for a product she’d never used, which is supposed to be a great gut support product.

Your definition of “called out” is certainly interesting :confused::rolleyes:

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It was quite the banal reaction. Calling out for someone’s medical degree on a forum generally is.

Lol. Someone has a crush on JB. Cute.

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If you wanted an experts opinion you could have asked your vet for a referral to an equine nutritionist and saved us all a headache. It really was a simple yes or no question and from your response I’m going to go with no.

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Speaking of games and behind my backs, this thread reminds me of the weird off base casino Clark Griswold’s brother in law took him to in Vegas Vacation…where is the poster asking “how many fingers am I holding up behind my back?”!!! Lololol

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