At the risk of sounding like I stutter. Suzy, I admire your tenacity.
I think your claws are plenty sharp. 
Don’t go gilding the lily.
of her legs but it 's hollow and reeks of Mike’s.
Who you callin spaghetti!!I done chased you off one board and I sure as heck can do it agin! 
You have answered the question that has confounded the dressage community (ok, at least me and Monica) for ages with an answer that makes perfect sense and beats the tar out of railroad tracks.
Of course we are arguing semantics–it is my favorite pastime.
And here are a few thoughts brought to you by my 13 year old students:
Why is a vertical (jump) called a vertical when it goes straight across?
Have you ever noticed that a horse’s front legs bend like a human’s legs, and a horse’s hind legs bend like a human’s arms?
I missed the dance but it is available on video for Christmas.
G-D-G asked:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Who is Anky Von Gruesome and what does she have to do with “deep, sexism, boogers and now profanity”? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You hush your mouth, that’s my momma you’re talkin’ about.
jolieVonGruesomeMom
I’ve ridden Andalusians in a barn that was purely “classical” to the point of “new age.” I’ve also ridden in very competitive barns. In both I’ve experienced horses who were taught the upper level movements by top riders.
If you’ve ridden it and you have an eye, you can see that Anky’s horses are light and free. You can also see that the most of the Lippizans ridden in exhibitions in this country are sucked back and usually not sitting down as they do movements.
You can ride a horse deep and it won’t be heavy, nor will it be behind IF RIDDEN CORRECTLY. The problem in this country is that no one has any experience (usually–not always) on horses that are trained by top international riders. So, what they feel are on horses that are incorrectly trained by other local riders or trainers who don’t necessarily know what they are doing.
Now, do I think all horses need to be ridden deep? Nope. Do I think all riders can ride a horse correctly in a deep frame? No way.
So, unless you’ve dived into both ends of a black bottomed pool, don’t tell me which one you “think” is deeper. I’ll only trust those who have successfully touched bottom (ridden to the FEI levels) when they say one is deeper (better) than the other. 
And another thing about “The Spook”.
GP dressage horses are fit. Fit I tell you. Fit sometimes may lead to a bit of expression.
:rolleyes
Why is it whenever a perfectly lovely conversation is happening here, Jen West shows up with her storm clouds to rain on the parade??? Jen West, may I suggest that since you find world cup level dressage so terribly offensive, that you no longer tune in. Everyone has tried to be reasonable with you in the past, frankly I’m getting tired of your negativity. If you would like to send us tapes of you riding dressage at the world cup level so that you can assure us that you are neither fat nor sloppy or floppy in the saddle, I’m sure we can all find a six pack of Domaine Chandon and a DVD set up for a fun filled evening of enlightenment. In the mean time I also have an appointment to see my manicurist! Ta! Ta!
Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my!!
but now enquiring minds need the difference explained, bitte,* so that we* won’t be confused when we order the tapes.
(*note the use of first names-implying a certain familarity with complete stangers and the royal “we”. Not to mention throwing ein klein German.
We are feeling quite pompous today. We thank you in advance for your answer.)
[This message was edited by jl on Nov. 17, 2001 at 10:14 AM.]
[This message was edited by jl on Nov. 17, 2001 at 01:05 PM.]
to be killink moose and squirrel!
hitch, you are bad.
I see in the photo that Idool is using himself, he is stepping way up, he is free and looks light. But, he is also broken at the 4th vertebra which has always been a BIG no no in my training.
I am a bit confused I guess, I see a horse who’s “head” is being ridden, another big no no as far as the training that I have received in past years.
But I see a horse who is going nicely “if you look past the chin to chest thing, the body looks correct”.
I guess the thing that concerns me is that Anky seems to know what and WHY she’s doing this. But it looks to me like if you DON’T know how and WHY you are doing this, it could be dangerous in hands that are not as talented as Anky’s.
In other words, just because it’s a useful tool “or seems to be” in an Olympic rider’s hands, doesn’t mean that every training level yahoo should try this technique. I think there must be more to it than meets the eye. Kinda like lunging, to do it right takes a lot of training and practice.
“Pull” was probably the wrong word – “manipulate” by sawing on the mouth (side to side pulling) would be a better way to describe how some people get their horses’ heads down. And that’s precisely the problem – they are focusing on the head and no other part of the horse’s anatomy. But, who can know for sure – maybe they’re contemplating the horse’s belly button, too.
Methinks Brookes did not really read my posts! pout
I said DQs do NOT bounce, but some talented trainers might…
So there!
VelvetstampingherfootlikeanyDQwouldforemphasis
alright-you’ve talked me out of those tapes- got any other recommendations for my Christmas list?
Like how to perfect the yodeling horse or singing ponies and you?
- Dr K and Ali
well…I was there at Santa Anita, volunteering my little heart out for a chance to watch people/horses like this up close.
My first realization that Dr. K has balls of titanium: after countless one-tempis all around the racetrack (I have all this on cherished videotape thanks to a friend in the stands) and various other one-handed maneuvers…the pair took off down the long side towards the tunnel in an extended trot that grew and grew–notice Dr has TWO hands on the reins at this point–and as he WHOOSHED past us into the tunnel–where he grabbed for dear life as he did not have a death wish==I really thought there were a couple of strides where Ali’s feet never touched ground==but then realized I just could not hear the footfalls over his roaring breath…
yes. it was an eventer’s heart wedded to a dressage rider’s brain. a lawyer’s intelligence to a poet-athlete’s body.
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Nuno O. Well, I dont know anything about this photo, but I continue to believe it is a young horse. And Nuno O continues to amaze and fascinate me. I really believe the top horsemen find it physically uncomfortable to be on a horse that is out of balance–that they feel a NEED to find real balance. And I first got this idea from thinking about Nuno O’s face…
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Anky is not doing an extended trot here. I think it is a really nice photo and deserves to be with the other two–a horse that looks in balance and engaged and basically a partner.
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Alexa S-B on mare.
Well, now that she will have Dr. S-B’s FULL attention, as Isabell W has left the barn…I REALLY hope he fixes this kind of stupid non-process.If I cut the reins…the result aint pretty.
cheers.
I do not ride Tennessee Walkers!!!
Thank you for that timely news update Eggy.
