The Anky thread that has nothing to do with anything but has a whole lot to say about alot

[canyonoak]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kathy Johnson:
>Hands without legs/legs without hands is a method my last coach used to get horse more responsive to forward aids.

OMG! Here I thought I had this brilliant original idea “hands w/o legs, legs w/o hands” and now I find that Anky and somebody’s coach are stealing my thoughts.

“Hands without legs and legs without hands” is the battle cry of the Baucherists, for Pete’s sake. Are we supposed to be impressed with this?

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Hands without legs, legs without hands…

If these words came out of Sjef Janssen's mouth, I would KNOW he was putting everyone on.

I can only wonder if Anky has finally decided to start putting everyone on as well.

[suzy]

What ARE you talking about?

[mbp]

How abecedarian of you, dearie. Everyone knows a persiflaginous BOOGER is one that has had a few too many taco beans. Ask Velvet. Her trainer is wishing that students will start eating meat again.

[Checkers324]

For the most part, I agree with Jen West! But, I would like to take a moment to analyze the wonderful photos taken by PaulaM.

Starting with the photo of Junior: Poll low, curb shank horizontal (heavy contact), head on or slightly behind the vertical. Tail appears to be held down tightly. Although the horse is still somewhat in mid-stride, his hindleg appears as though it could still be further under his body as this point.

Now, the photo of chestnut: Man, that is a gorgeous horse! I have to know who that is. Overall, very pleasing picture. Very soft contact, the whole horse appears very relaxed and quite happy. He could be stepping under more, however. But again, it is overall a pleasing picture. Also, Anky’s position is quite exemplary in this photo. Do you mind if I save it to add into my Webshots screensaver?

I’m in a passive, kind mood today, so I’m not going to complain too much. I thought I’d just post my comments on Paula’s beautiful photos.

[Smart_Alec]

judy- thanks for the link—it was great to read through.
Also, thanks to cosmo, great post–very well said.
For myself, I find this excercise very interesting…would I use it on my horse? hmmm…at this time no. He is still very green --we are in the forward/contact stage… and without someone who really knows what they are doing (Anky, want to ride Smart Alec?
) I know I don’t understand it enough to really make it work.
Also, I am sure I’m not the only one who feels this way, while this excercise appears to work for many of your horses, its hard not to be cautious with newer methods/excercises. There are many gimmicks out there (not that this is one) but its hard to know what is and what isn’t. ODG methods are tried and true, they have been developed over so many yrs. with the art and science of the natural horse in mind. Riding deep may be a real breakthrough, but everything takes time, so if it really is a great new method that works…well, then it will come around to more people. Again thanks Cosmo, you really said it all.

[Maria]

Uh huh, likely story.

[Louise]

I’m afraid that if I had that throwing up booger icon, I’d be tempted to use it entirely too much here.

[cortez]

whacked on the head with a cat?

too funny, haven’t heard that one! BTW what’s a punam?

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[suzy]

And what comes after 4? Here’s a hint - it’s another number.

[egontoast]

but is darn annoying to say the least. Speaking of Anky, she did happen to mention to me at brunch on Thursday that she has been planning to get over to read all the fascinating discussion about her and get some truly helpful insights from us but she has been just so busy with the riding, training and new clothing line.

Suzy, about my toe, it went into a coma and gangrene set in , it was touch and go for a couple of months .I am planning to ask for an exemption from posting I mean sitting (brain also affected)on tests next summer based on my disability.

“It’s not about her,her, her, I’m afraid it’s just more about me, me, me.”

[This message was edited by egontoast on Mar. 06, 2002 at 12:07 PM.]

[PaulaM]

Checkers324, feel free to save it if you like.

[Cosmo]

no not stupidity!! lol… faaarrrr from it!!

“tenacious: persistent in maintaining or adhering to something valued or habitual”

Nice quality to have…

Cosmo

“Acceptance of the bit happens in the haunches, not in the mouth.”
Dr. Thomas Ritter

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[Jen_West]

Make fun of DesertRose all you like- that does not change the fact that MANY even upoper level dressage riders flop like mad on a horse- I’d reward the horses for carrying them- call hunt seat riders perchers all you like, but seldom will you see a flat sloppy floppy person on a hunter whereas on a dressage horse lousy floppiness and pure sloth are given some non-offensive euphemisms and are rewarded if the horse can be persuaded to capitulate in spite of the rider’s purely inpt machinations.

[DocHF]

club her again, Egon!http://pub9.ezboard.com/fthehorsecommunitytrainingquestions.showMessage?topicID=840.topic

[egontoast]

steal that little blue regurgitron for over here…I am really going to need it.

[Velvet]

I prefer the Rumba, when doing a Latin dance.

You must come out here more frequently if you wish to join in the dance (no reference to the Garth Brooks song).

It’s all about ME, ME, ME!!! (The only signature worthy of a real DQ.)

[DocHF]

and this thread seems to have followed.

Now I saw an ad for Sylvia Loch’s video “The classical Seat” and the ad said she explains “going deep”.

Has anyone seen that?

[Velvet]

charlatan

[suzy]

Yvonne’s description is good. I’d add one thing. When horses are deep (in the good sense - ridden actively from behind into the bridle as opposed to having their heads pulled in and their hindlegs inactive) - the withers lift up and the base of the horse’s neck “blooms.” (Hey, I warned you I was going to get into those “bloomin necks!”). This is something you can actually see when sitting on the horse and is one of the elements of real “throughness.”

As the horse’s musculature develops and he learns to lift his withers and keep them lifted while bringing his hindlegs under and sitting, you can then ask him to bring his poll up so that it is the highest point without risking the withers dropping and the horse hollowing his back. I see far too many pictures of horses whose polls are the highest point but to the detriment of everything else. Poll up is last on my list of things to do when asking for collection. Start with active hindlegs, good connection into the bridle, swinging back, and withers up - then bring the poll up. To bring the poll up first invites the horse to drop his withers and hollow his back.

P.S. Just love it when Velvet has to agree. muhahahaha. And Maria, is this tenacious enough for ya?

[Louise]

Don’t feed the trolls.