The armed robbery...

[Anonymoose]

Has any source or any reporter or other person taken all the security camera footage and put it together into one fairly smooth and clear film? Have the missing 3(?) minutes ever been found? All I have seen is four guys coming out of a doorway (the interior looks like a hallway), and two-three other guys in red, then “our guys” get into a car, then get out of one, then one puts his hands up, and that’s it. No one peeing in the bushes. One report said there was footage of one guy pulling his pants back up but I wasn’t aware guys pulled their pants down when just taking a pee.

I have seen the footage of the guys sitting on the curb but I can’t tell if they’re our guys or not. Ryan walking with his hands behind his back doesn’t look like he’s threatening anyone, or, conversely, being threatened by anyone.

[Foxtrot_s]

As usual the story flip flops as bits and pieces of information come out and we may never know all that happened. I doubt we can trust the cops’ versions
any more than we can often not trust the cops in the US or Canada.

So many versions from several sides.

Overall, it seems a big shame that this should overshadow what the Games was really about and that it has taken the spotlight away from some worthy athletes and stories.

[Pocket_Pony]

[QUOTE=StormyDay;8811920]
So apparently someone on this thread thinks the appropriate way to deal with someone disagreeing with them is to send them threatening and vulgar messages over social media. That is not the appropriate way to express your feelings. I feel sad for you that you have such poor anger management skills that you feel the need to go back through my posts, figure out who I am and then take the time to send those messages. I hope you get help, whichever one of you it is. I really pity you.[/QUOTE]

Whaaaaaattttttt? Wow, crazy!

[red_mares]

[QUOTE=Manni01;8812486]
Hah!!! I knew it :).
And another thing whatever the swimmers did or say when they paid the money, it’s void. They were drunk and there is no way you can make any legal agreement with a person which is drunk. I’m sure not even in Brasil. It was robbery!!![/QUOTE]

All of my drunk sailors would have loved to have had you in their corner, especially the guy who carjacked the Admiral on the Koper pier.

[Manni01]

[QUOTE=red mares;8812760]
All of my drunk sailors would have loved to have had you in their corner, especially the guy who carjacked the Admiral on the Koper pier.[/QUOTE]

? I think there is a little difference between doing something wrong when you are drunk or negotiating something when you are drunk.
I was referring to the deal with the security guys. They used the situation to rip off some drunk guys who were not able to use their common sense. I am not talking about what happened before. I think they are responsible for their actions at the gas station (whatever their actions were)…

[Guilherme]

[QUOTE=red mares;8812760]
All of my drunk sailors would have loved to have had you in their corner, especially the guy who carjacked the Admiral on the Koper pier.[/QUOTE]

Or stealing the Venus from the Big Ben (a famous whorehouse) in Barcelona (it was full size, stone, and it took six of them to carry it) and then tried to convince the Boat Officer that they bought it?

The cognitive dissonance of the people defending these bozos explains to me much of what is wrong in the 21st Century.

G.

[MHM]

It’s really a sad commentary on life as we know it now that these dopes managed to draw so much attention from everything else that happened in Rio. Weren’t there more than 10,000 athletes there? I’m sure plenty of them are more deserving of the coverage.

[Manni01]

Well the public was very willing to give them all this attention. I am sure these guys could have done without it…

And I am kind of glad that things seem to be a little different then they looked in the beginning. I think it is very sad that people hear something and then start to get their own ideas about it without being interested in the facts. If they are against young guys who drink, then whatever happened it was the fault of the guys. They judge without knowing any details.

When I went to University (I studied Archeology) I learned one of the most valuable lessons in my life.

Never believe anything unless you see it yourself.

This is so true and so useful. Its essential in Archeology, because if you find artefacts, people will publish them and then start to create theories about them. Usually the original publication will stay closest to the facts , but each following publication will have a different point of view and a different reason for writing it. So it is possible that a little clay bowl will appear as a square huge stone vase 3 publications later, because somebody did not pay attention and nobody ever checked the original publication or tried to look at the original bowl.
And this is true for so many things nowadays

[SnicklefritzG]

Yes. This is a sad commentary on what sells copy these days.

[QUOTE=MHM;8812867]
It’s really a sad commentary on life as we know it now that these dopes managed to draw so much attention from everything else that happened in Rio. Weren’t there more than 10,000 athletes there? I’m sure plenty of them are more deserving of the coverage.[/QUOTE]

[SnicklefritzG]

Very true

[QUOTE=Manni01;8812890]
Well the public was very willing to give them all this attention. I am sure these guys could have done without it…

[SNIP]

When I went to University (I studied Archeology) I learned one of the most valuable lessons in my life.

Never believe anything unless you see it yourself.

This is so true and so useful. Its essential in Archeology, because if you find artefacts, people will publish them and then start to create theories about them. Usually the original publication will stay closest to the facts , but each following publication will have a different point of view and a different reason for writing it. So it is possible that a little clay bowl will appear as a square huge stone vase 3 publications later, because somebody did not pay attention and nobody ever checked the original publication or tried to look at the original bowl.
And this is true for so many things nowadays :([/QUOTE]

[red_mares]

[QUOTE=Guilherme;8812850]
Or stealing the Venus from the Big Ben (a famous whorehouse) in Barcelona (it was full size, stone, and it took six of them to carry it) and then tried to convince the Boat Officer that they bought it?

G.[/QUOTE]

:lol::lol::lol: Airdales?

Things like that make me miss active duty.

[Where_sMyWhite]

[QUOTE=Manni01;8811292]
If they are against young guys who drink, then whatever happened it was the fault of the guys. They judge without knowing any details.[/QUOTE]

I am personally not against people of any age or gender drinking or even getting drunk. I am against people of any age, gender, race, etc acting irresponsible in public and then lying about what happened. Even more so if the individuals are much more public figures representing a foreign country. (Yeah, when you are in Brazil and are a US citizen, you are representing a foreign country.) Many people in many countries do not have a good opinion of US visitors and incidents like this sure help cement that opinion.+

Own up to what you did.

I’m also still struggling to understand the ‘contract’ that some think existed between whoever extorted the money from the swimmers and the swimmers (at the gas station). Pull gun, give me $$. Bribe or robbery but not sure there is a “contract”.

[SendenHorse]

they have been known as punks a long time before this, drinking or not. This just proves the point again.
Reputations exist for a reason. Don’t want that reputation don’t do this stupid crap over and over.

[SnicklefritzG]

^^^Or pack Depends if you plan on getting drunk at night in a foreign country with questionable local police

[Manni01]

[QUOTE=SendenHorse;8813014]
they have been known as punks a long time before this, drinking or not. This just proves the point again.
Reputations exist for a reason. Don’t want that reputation don’t do this stupid crap over and over.[/QUOTE]
This attitude is cruel because nobody is guilty all the time. But now that you write it this way, it gives me an even more complete picture of your personality

[NEEDS_A_NAP]

The unwanted attention the others got was solely Lochte’s fault. Why on earth did he concoct such a story, and then double down on it? I truly understand the confusion after the event happened, having been in some sticky situations while traveling myself.

He trusted the media and the goodwill of the American viewing public more than the local authorities. So instead of going to the authorities and reporting the incident, he went to the media and exaggerated it.

Truly understandable. I wonder what would have happened if they had just kept their mouths shut, and at what moment in time did he decide to go with this story, and if he informed the others of it beforehand.

[red_mares]

[QUOTE=Manni01;8812890]
If they are against young guys who drink, then whatever happened it was the fault of the guys.[/QUOTE]

Some of the best experiences of my life happened when I was very drunk in a foreign country. I even remember a few of them.

I have no problem with someone getting trashed overseas. I have a problem with someone getting trashed overseas and lying about what happened.

[omare]

Here is the article.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/21/investigation-ryan-lochte-rio-olympics-authorities/89082232/

Updated
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/23/ryan-lochte-us-swimmers-rio-de-janeiro-gas-station-security-guards-incident/89228124/

[Angela_Freda]

[QUOTE=Manni01;8813024]
This attitude is cruel because nobody is guilty all the time. But now that you write it this way, it gives me an even more complete picture of your personality :([/QUOTE]

Reputations precede g-you and g-you get a reputation for a reason.
Nick P comes to mind.
Horsemen who don’t pay their bills… businesses who have bad customer service… builders who build poor quality buildings… word gets around. Don’t want a bad reputation? Don’t behave badly.
When you are this high profile, as the Mens US Swim team, even moreso.
People will talk… so toeing the line is even more important.

There’s nothing cruel about it. It’s reality.

[SendenHorse]

[QUOTE=Manni01;8813024]
This attitude is cruel because nobody is guilty all the time. But now that you write it this way, it gives me an even more complete picture of your personality :([/QUOTE]

Hugh? this makes no sense. No one is guilty all the time?
Do you realize what they have done in the past? they have huge attitudes.

I don’t like big egos, or entitlement.

If that makes me a jerk, fine. I’m not the one getting drunk and making false reports, going to jail.

We judge situations and people ALL THE TIME. Get real Manni,. this false humility on your part is very interesting.

I can’t believe you are defending these losers. They are embarrassing the country. That is ok with you? not ok with me.
someone beat up their wife? they are a looser too.
Someone hit their dog? yup, scum.

Stop doing illegal things and being assholes and I’ll change my mind.

I’m a christian and it’s not part of the faith to lie and wreck things, and have an ago. So yeah…