The armed robbery...

[QUOTE=FatDinah;8808722]
The fine is for filing a false police report and making false statements to the police and other authorities. A similar fine would be levied in any U.S. city for someone doing that.[/QUOTE]

Now that you mention it. How would that happen in the US? I thought it somebody did something wrong police would come and file a report. HOw did this happen here?? Are security persons allowed Take over and even charge for things like that?? In this case people who are not law enforcement acted like they were. Yes the swimmers were doing wrong but the security as well. They should have held them and called the police. That would have been the correct way. ANd then there would have been no need to lie

[QUOTE=FatDinah;8808722]
The fine is for filing a false police report and making false statements to the police and other authorities. A similar fine would be levied in any U.S. city for someone doing that.[/QUOTE]

If that city were Nashville it would be Class D Felony and a lot more than a fine.

G.

[QUOTE=Manni01;8809200]
Isn’t it kind of very mean to bring this into a thread about 4 young men relieving themselves in the bushes at night because access to the restroom was tricky???[/QUOTE]

You mean 3 young men and one about 10 years past knowing better. :).

[QUOTE=red mares;8809629]
You mean 3 young men and one about 10 years past knowing better. :).[/QUOTE]

No doubts about that. But still the only thing they did was pee and knock down either a sign or a closed restroom door (I found different versions). And they were not taken to a police station but it was taken money from them from some one who was not authorized. Come on this situation is weird and I don’t think it would have happened in the US like this. A LE officer would have recorded the incident.

[QUOTE=Manni01;8809641]
Come on this situation is weird and I don’t think it would have happened in the US like this. A LE officer would have recorded the incident.[/QUOTE]

This was Brazil, not the US. Their laws and customs are different and would apply to whomever was in the country, regardless of citizenship.

Even in the US, no guarantee that LE would have recorded the incident.

[QUOTE=Manni01;8809200]
Isn’t it kind of very mean to bring this into a thread about 4 young men relieving themselves in the bushes at night because access to the restroom was tricky???[/QUOTE]

But that is not what happened by anyone’s account including people that were actually there :confused::eek:

[QUOTE=Crockpot;8809874]
But that is not what happened by anyone’s account including people that were actually there :confused::eek:[/QUOTE]
Oh you were there?? I was referring to the mentioned rapes… But if you have more information…

[QUOTE=Where’sMyWhite;8809827]
This was Brazil, not the US. Their laws and customs are different and would apply to whomever was in the country, regardless of citizenship.

Even in the US, no guarantee that LE would have recorded the incident.[/QUOTE]
I agree they have to obey the Brazilian laws when they are there and because they represented the US they should have been extra careful!! But is it Brazilian law that any security guy can charge you for damage??

[QUOTE=Manni01;8809891]
Oh you were there?? I was referring to the mentioned rapes… But if you have more information…[/QUOTE]

No. You were referring to them peeing in the woods. And i quoted that specifically when replying.Nothing about rape. And i was referring to first hand accounts from all the people who were there. Not making stuff up or pretending i was there.

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But is it Brazilian law that any security guy can charge you for damage??

Where are you coming up with this stuff. According to the people involved including the swimmers and their translator - you can read whst they said…they pleaded with the security guard not to call the police. That is why they paid for the damages. The security guard did not charge them:confused:. The police talked about charging them for lying to the police. Are you still confused?

[QUOTE=Crockpot;8809957]
:confused:. The police talked about charging them for lying to the police. Are you still confused?[/QUOTE]

right, the (real) issue here is the fake robbery, isn’t it?

From CNN- how about we all start posting sources?


US swimmer Ryan Lochte told NBC’s Matt Lauer it was his fault that a fabricated story about a robbery caused an international Olympics scandal.

“I over-exaggerated that story and if I had never done that we wouldn’t be in this mess,” he said in a snippet of the interview aired on NBC on Saturday evening.
“None of this would have happened,” he added about the aftermath in which three of his fellow swimmers were questioned by Brazilian police and one was ordered to donate nearly $11,000 to a Brazilian charity.
Lochte, 32 and a four-time Olympian, blamed his “immature behavior.”
Lauer asked Lochte about using the word “victims” in a prior interview when police have said the swimmers were vandals.
“It’s how you want to make it look like,” Lochte responded. "Whether you call it a robbery or whether you call it extortion or us paying just for the damages. We don’t know. All we know is there was a gun pointed in our direction and we were demanded to give money."
NBC said it was set to air more of the interview during its Olympics coverage. Lochte also spoke with Brazilian network Globo, which aired its interview Saturday night.
‘110% sorry’

The disgraced swimmer told the Brazilian channel that he felt the weight of responsibility for his actions.
“If I hadn’t exaggerated the story or told the entire story, none of this would have happened,” he said in the interview.
“I was coming from the France house, I was highly intoxicated, and I made immature accusations. If I had not done that, none of this would have happened.”
He said that he did not ask his teammates to corroborate his story, and apologized “110%” to "the gas station owner, to Brazilian police, to the people of Rio and Brazil, everyone that came together to put on these wonderful games.
“I just want to say I am truly, 110% sorry.”
Disciplinary commission

Ryan Lochte’s apology tour: Two interviews, two languages
The International Olympic Committee has set up a disciplinary commission to investigate Lochte and the three other US swimmers involved in an altercation at a gas station in Rio de Janeiro last Sunday. The commission will determine if the swimmers will face any punishment.
Lochte’s shifting account of the incident and the resulting fallout has threatened to steal the spotlight away from a Games that the IOC president on Saturday declared “iconic.”
Lochte said he and James Feigen, Jack Conger and Gunnar Bentz were robbed in the early morning hours of August 14 as they returned from a party. Brazilian authorities say the American swimmers actually vandalized a gas station and then got into an altercation with security guards there.
After taking a public pounding for reporting a robbery story that police say was fabricated, Lochte apologized Friday on Instagram for “not being more careful and candid” in his description.
The 12-time Olympic medalist said he accepted responsibility for his role in it and had “learned some valuable lessons.”
Endorsements: Will sponsors flee?

Even though Lochte has banked on his edgy image, the scandal could put a dent in Lochte’s current endorsements with Speedo, Airweave and Polo Ralph Lauren.
“I do think this is going to have a lasting impact on Ryan Lochte, and it’s not going to be good,” Christine Brennan, CNN contributor and sports analyst, said Friday.
Speedo said in a statement that it is following the situation closely. The swimwear company said it has “a policy not to comment on ongoing legal investigations. We suggest you contact his team for additional information.”
The mattress company Airweave is standing by the swimmer, for now.
“We do not allow unlawful behavior and will continue to monitor the investigation closely. I respect the athletic performance of Ryan, and as long as he is a respectable athlete, he will remain a US ambassador for Airweave as long as our partnership agreement remains effective. Our focus is on supporting Team USA, and our hope is people will remain focused on cheering on the athletes who still have events to compete in,” said a statement from Airweave Chief Executive Motokuni Takaoka.
The Airweave/Lochte partnership was already scheduled to end this year.
Clothing giant Ralph Lauren said it was working closely with the US Olympic Committee on the developments in Rio and is reviewing the situation.
“He’s certainly on the back end of his swimming career,” Brennan said. “I just cannot imagine any of these sponsors re-upping, if they decide to stay with him.”

Speedo has dropped him. Ralph Lauren won’t renew their contract.
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/speedo-usa-drops-sponsorship-ryan-lochte-amid-scandal/story?id=41571638

[QUOTE=yaya;8810056]
Speedo has dropped him.[/QUOTE]
I saw this too. i expect there will be many more.

[QUOTE=Manni01;8809897]
I agree they have to obey the Brazilian laws when they are there and because they represented the US they should have been extra careful!! But is it Brazilian law that any security guy can charge you for damage??[/QUOTE]

Any security guard can “charge you for damage” in the US if your goal is to keep the police and media unaware of the incident. Lochte was sh!tfaced, but he’s apparently experienced enough this wasn’t going to look good for him.

All we have is Lochte & Co’s word that “there was a gun pointed in our direction and we were demanded to give money.” Given his penchant for “over-exaggeration” or lying, how much it that worth?

I wonder if “demanded money” is the same as “we’ll pay for this if you don’t call the cops”?

[QUOTE=Crockpot;8809933]
No. You were referring to them peeing in the woods. And i quoted that specifically when replying.Nothing about rape. And i was referring to first hand accounts from all the people who were there. Not making stuff up or pretending i was there.

Are you impaired in some way?[/QUOTE]

Maybe you could be impaired?? I replied to the post where somebody was mentioning how everybody would think if more would be involved. Maybe you should read the post previous to my post first and be mean then…

[QUOTE=SendenHorse;8810058]
I saw this too. i expect there will be many more.[/QUOTE]

Probably a few more, but he only had a few to begin with. He didn’t have too many sponsorships at this point (as compared to in London or Beijing). I at first thought maybe he wouldn’t lose current endorsements, but the (exaggerated) outrage people feel over the situation kind of guaranteed it. Obviously he completely messed up and should be held accountable in some way, but I find the amount of people online rooting for his loss of all current and future endorsements, loss of Olympic medals, and ban from future Olympics really strange.

Of course all the swimmers who were involved should face some consequences and their behavior has been condemned repeatedly (as it should be), but I’m very curious why some people (not anyone on here, just people in general) seem personally invested in wanting him to lose absolutely everything.

I’m not sure he’s lost future endorsements, since besides Speedo, his other current endorsements were set to expire this year anyway. Most of the endorsements are focused around the Olympic season, and not as active during the years between, since the athletes don’t get very much coverage when it’s not an Olympic year. I suspect he can pick some up again in four years when this story isn’t as fresh and if he’s making a return to the Olympics.

At any rate, I have no affiliation with him, but having followed his career for around 10 years, I hope he’s able to regroup and end his swimming career on a better note.
He definitely messed up and is facing/will face consequences for a while, but I don’t think what happened is so horribly egregious that his entire career should be ruined forever.

And just a sidenote, but where is the proof that they actually filed a false police report? It seems that he lied to his mom, and the media, but when the police talked to the swimmers, I thought they all came clean. So obviously there were still lies, but I haven’t read that they actually went through with filing a report. He did admit taking down the poster (criminal mastermind).

[QUOTE=Crockpot;8809933]
No. You were referring to them peeing in the woods. And i quoted that specifically when replying.Nothing about rape. And i was referring to first hand accounts from all the people who were there. Not making stuff up or pretending i was there.

Are you impaired in some way?[/QUOTE]

No, she was referring to when a few posters compared peeing in the bushes to raping women. That was what she was referring to. And there is no reason for personal insults here.

[QUOTE=StormyDay;8810317]
No, she was referring to when a few posters compared peeing in the bushes to raping women. That was what she was referring to. And there is no reason for personal insults here.[/QUOTE]

Thank you!!

[QUOTE=red mares;8810159]
Any security guard can “charge you for damage” in the US if your goal is to keep the police and media unaware of the incident. Lochte was sh!tfaced, but he’s apparently experienced enough this wasn’t going to look good for him.

All we have is Lochte & Co’s word that “there was a gun pointed in our direction and we were demanded to give money.” Given his penchant for “over-exaggeration” or lying, how much it that worth?

I wonder if “demanded money” is the same as “we’ll pay for this if you don’t call the cops”?[/QUOTE]

I agree with you that this could happen maybe anywhere, but we don’t really know. And if he paid to keep it secret, why did he talk about it later? And somehow none of the swimmers mentioned that they paid to keep it secret??? Maybe I missed that fact but for me there are to many unknown facts to judge those guys who were not able to access a restroom when they needed it …

And another thing… You are all Americans ( and the swimmers are too) which are very spoilt regarding restrooms. The US is a paradise for them always available and free and clean, millions of them. There are countries which are different :(. Germany can be a pain, usually you have to pay and on gas stations the key is held with the guy at the cashier and sometimes you even have to leave your car keys with him when you want the key. I am perfectly sure that these swimmers did not think that access to a restroom might be tricky. They were drunk and thought a gas station ist the best place to find one. And theoretically I would Agree but in different countries it might be different …
I have this story which still bothers me. When I was an exchange student in Kansas, a very good friend from Kansas went to Bogota on an exchange . 4 weeks later he was dead :frowning: :(. He tried to cross a street to reach the school bus and was run over by a car :frowning: :(. At that time I didnt think about it but now I know this happened because he was used to the American System. The school bus stops and all the cars as well. Obviously in Columbia this was not the case :(. And I cant help to think this was a similar Problem here. And by the way how so you experts here explain the $11000 the one swimmer had to pay to get his Passport back?? That was robbery :frowning: