The armed robbery...

[QUOTE=PeteyPie;8810892]
Yes I agree that it is a drag to find the door locked and to have to ask the attendant for a key. So you and I both have had to do that and are aware that when the door is locked one asks the attendant for a key. Of course common sense would tell us that gas stations in some places have to lock up the bathrooms because they have experienced theft, vandalism, people camping out, high usage from non-customers or other problems, and the resulting action of locking the door has the benefit to us of providing a clean, safe, and well-stocked bathroom. This is not uncommon in the U.S., especially in cities. I know it, you know it, and I am positive Lochte and his pals have encountered a locked bathroom in their lives. There was no lack of information. They didn’t come from the homestead to the big city, encounter a locked bathroom, scratch their heads and say, “Whaaat? What does this mean? The door will not open! What do we do? What do we do?”

I have never been so humiliated that I chose to break the door down and so angry that I vandalized the place, nor have I ever encountered a locked door on anyone’s property and decided that a good option was to kick it open, or become enraged and damage the premises by ripping things up, knocking things down, or peeing on the structures.

I can’t get past the “maybe they didn’t know” to ask for a key; all I can think of is, really? Really? Lochte is clearly not a bright bulb, but really? Do you really think that none of these guys has ever encountered a locked restroom? What 32-year-old U.S. male has never encountered a locked restroom?

So getting beyond that, let’s say they had to pee immediately, all of them, because they could not hold it a second longer. All four of them. Let’s just say that. Don’t you think if they had discretely peed on the bushes behind the gas station and quietly gone their way without kicking doors, breaking signs or PEEING ON THE BUILDING, and apparently, acting loud and obnoxious, the issue wouldn’t exist? I am convinced of it.

But in any case, these men are not European and they know well that urinating in public can bring at least, a fine, and at most criminal charges of Indecent Exposure — the point being that it isn’t done. Everyone knows that, and it is not a common or accepted practice in the U.S. to urinate in public. In an emergency, a guy is going to be discrete. In any case, when Lochte chose to urinate on the building instead of the bushes, he wasn’t just relieving himself, he was being aggressive, ugly and a vandal.[/QUOTE]
I agree with most of your arguments :). But do we know whether they knocked down the door?? Somehow in the reports it was only a poster they knocked down from the wall? Also of course you can call using a building to pee against as an act of aggression, but I know guys like to aim at something and we agree that they were drunk and dumb so maybe they didn’t even think as far as trying to be aggressive. We don’t know enough about the actual situation to judge about that. But overall they were 4 stupid drunk idiots who do get punished now for peeing at the wrong moment in the wrong location.

[QUOTE=Manni01;8810825]
Ok you just confirmed what I suspected…Restroom doors at gas stations in Brasil are locked and you have to get a key somewhere. Great that you are experienced and know that :slight_smile: good for you. Obviously there was a lack of information in the swimmers otherwise they would have gotten the key from the guy at the cashier first before they went to the back. And obviously they did not think to get the key from the cashier then, maybe they didn’t know and were just frustrated that the doors were locked?? After all they are men and because I am European and because sometimes restrooms are not readily available I can tell you European guys take it easy then and use a convenient spot. And obviously these Americans did this too. After all it was night and probably not too populated. Not everybody is so perfect and organized as you obviously are. And I can confess you for me it is kind of humiliating to ask some strange looking guy at a gas station for the key to the restroom. Have done it all my life but I still try to avoid it… I think guys are lucky in some ways…[/QUOTE]

Not being a resident of Brazil I don’t know if all public toilets are locked or not. When I visited some were and some were not. If they were and if there was a fee I paid it. I didn’t kick in any doors.

If in your world it’s perfectly OK to kick in a door if asking for the key makes you “uncomfortable” then God Bless You. You’ll likely need His help if you do it at a station with an armed guard at 0300.

G.

I don’t think they are being punished for peeing at the wrong moment in the wrong location. They are being punished because one of them chose to tell his mother they were robbed by armed police officers (and of course he forgot to tell the peeing and vandalizing incident). They are being punished because aforesaid mom chose to report the incident. They are being punished because the one who told about the incident forgot to advise their mates. Their accounts varied from one to another, and changed in time, what made police suspicious. They are being punished because THEY LIED to real police officers and to the public.

Had they chosen to tell the incident as it happened (in need to pee, drunken, closed door, some stuff vandalized, security guard pointing gun at them and then asking for money to either pay for the broken stuff or as a bribe), nobody would have been offended and nobody would be being punished. They chose to lie, they know why they chose to lie, and as the lie got bigger and bigger, it blew out right in their faces.

[QUOTE=Manni01;8810825]
And I can confess you for me it is kind of humiliating to ask some strange looking guy at a gas station for the key to the restroom. Have done it all my life but I still try to avoid it… I think guys are lucky in some ways…[/QUOTE]

HUH? It’s a PITA, but not humiliating. You are one strange duck.

Lots of gas stations in the US lock their restrooms. Not as many as 20 years ago, and usually the skeevier ones, but still a significant amount have locks.

They have locks to prevent the exact kind of damage that Lochte caused, as well as to prevent people sleeping in them.

[QUOTE=red mares;8811030]
HUH? It’s a PITA, but not humiliating. You are one strange duck.

Lots of gas stations in the US lock their restrooms. Not as many as 20 years ago, and usually the skeevier ones, but still a significant amount have locks.

They have locks to prevent the exact kind of damage that Lochte caused, as well as to prevent people sleeping in them.[/QUOTE]

I have been here for more then 10 years now and now that I think about it I maybe asked for a key once. In Germany it’s about every time you need to use a restroom, or you pay. To make it clear, I don’t knock down doors (they are very solid anyhow) and I usually ask for the key. ( I admit though that in some cases I did choose to use my car as a shield and avoided the restroom because it was too gross :(. (In Europe). And maybe I used the wrong word and should have used PITA instead of humiliating. In any case it’s no fun…

[QUOTE=eternalbeginner;8811019]
I don’t think they are being punished for peeing at the wrong moment in the wrong location. They are being punished because one of them chose to tell his mother they were robbed by armed police officers (and of course he forgot to tell the peeing and vandalizing incident). They are being punished because aforesaid mom chose to report the incident. They are being punished because the one who told about the incident forgot to advise their mates. Their accounts varied from one to another, and changed in time, what made police suspicious. They are being punished because THEY LIED to real police officers and to the public.

Had they chosen to tell the incident as it happened (in need to pee, drunken, closed door, some stuff vandalized, security guard pointing gun at them and then asking for money to either pay for the broken stuff or as a bribe), nobody would have been offended and nobody would be being punished. They chose to lie, they know why they chose to lie, and as the lie got bigger and bigger, it blew out right in their faces.[/QUOTE]
Yes I agree it was really all the fault of Lochte’s mother…

Several news sites went to look and only a sign was damaged per visual inspection and employees interviews.

[QUOTE=omare;8811062]
Several news sites went to look and only a sign was damaged per visual inspection and employees interviews.[/QUOTE]
That’s what I found as well, still people choose to use the word vandalizing. It is amazing what difference words chosen to describe a situation can make.

Also everybody is focusing on the swimmers. I think the position of the Brazilian officials is quite interesting. They started to use the word vandalizing, they started an investigation. (Why? Was there any report to them? ) And they took $11000 from a swimmer in order to return his passport. Was there any court order to do this? I think this is totally scary and doesn’t make sense to me. I think the swimmers can be happy to be back in the US

[QUOTE=Manni01;8811053]
Yes I agree it was really all the fault of Lochte’s mother…[/QUOTE]

It’s her fault on so many levels.

[QUOTE=red mares;8811089]
It’s her fault on so many levels.[/QUOTE]
Probably

[QUOTE=red mares;8811089]
It’s her fault on so many levels.[/QUOTE]
:lol::lol::lol:

There are two kinds of people who pee in the pool. Those who do, and those who lie about it.

[QUOTE=SnicklefritzG;8811099]
There are two kinds of people who pee in the pool. Those who do, and those who lie about it.[/QUOTE]

We dont Know whether they pee’d in the pool

[QUOTE=Manni01;8811129]
We dont Know whether they pee’d in the pool[/QUOTE]

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/ryan-lochte-admits-to-peeing-in-pool-at-olympics-201258

[QUOTE=eternalbeginner;8811019]
I don’t think they are being punished for peeing at the wrong moment in the wrong location. They are being punished because one of them chose to tell his mother they were robbed by armed police officers (and of course he forgot to tell the peeing and vandalizing incident). They are being punished because aforesaid mom chose to report the incident. They are being punished because the one who told about the incident forgot to advise their mates. Their accounts varied from one to another, and changed in time, what made police suspicious. They are being punished because THEY LIED to real police officers and to the public.

Had they chosen to tell the incident as it happened (in need to pee, drunken, closed door, some stuff vandalized, security guard pointing gun at them and then asking for money to either pay for the broken stuff or as a bribe), nobody would have been offended and nobody would be being punished. They chose to lie, they know why they chose to lie, and as the lie got bigger and bigger, it blew out right in their faces.[/QUOTE]

Yes, this. its NOT about the bathroom, for the 10th time!

Manni, are your arguments serious or are you having a laugh with this? I can not follow your logic, if there is any. That is not a “mean” statement, its a fact.

I don’t see how the tangent about the key fits into lying and faking a police report- THAT is the problem.

so he wasnt lying about it. And he gave everything for the US!! Also maybe the poor guy has a weak bladder…

But what I know for sure :slight_smile: The Pony pooped into her automatic waterer tonight and she never told me!!

This is a reply to Snicklefritz, only to make sure Nobody gets confused

[QUOTE=SendenHorse;8811188]
Yes, this. its NOT about the bathroom, for the 10th time!

Manni, are your arguments serious or are you having a laugh with this? I can not follow your logic, if there is any. That is not a “mean” statement, its a fact.

I don’t see how the tangent about the key fits into lying and faking a police report- THAT is the problem.[/QUOTE]

I might not take the subject as a whole serious, but I do take your posts serious for sure. If you dont even know how nasty you sound, maybe find somebody to help you. Again you give the incident a nasty note :(. Where did Lochte or the other swimmers fake a police report?? He seemed to change his story in the public and maybe toward his mother but I dont know of any police reports published with fake statements by him

[QUOTE=Manni01;8811192]
so he wasnt lying about it. And he gave everything for the US!! Also maybe the poor guy has a weak bladder…

But what I know for sure :slight_smile: The Pony pooped into her automatic waterer tonight and she never told me!![/QUOTE]

next he will be nominated for sainthood? oh my
He behaved as an ass…e, lied, got his friends in trouble, lied again…
Also I don’t think it’s too much for Speedo and all to cancel his contract… he is at the end of his career anyway, so no big loss to them.

[QUOTE=Manni01;8810825]
Ok you just confirmed what I suspected…Restroom doors at gas stations in Brasil are locked and you have to get a key somewhere. Great that you are experienced and know that :slight_smile: good for you. Obviously there was a lack of information in the swimmers otherwise they would have gotten the key from the guy at the cashier first before they went to the back. And obviously they did not think to get the key from the cashier then, maybe they didn’t know and were just frustrated that the doors were locked?? …[/QUOTE]

Sometimes the door is locked because someone is in there too.
Just sayin’… excusing them for kickin in the door or otherwise having a tantrum because the door is locked is lame.

[QUOTE=Manni01;8811206]
I might not take the subject as a whole serious, but I do take your posts serious for sure. If you dont even know how nasty you sound, maybe find somebody to help you. Again you give the incident a nasty note :(. Where did Lochte or the other swimmers fake a police report?? He seemed to change his story in the public and maybe toward his mother but I dont know of any police reports published with fake statements by him[/QUOTE]

you don’t know about the faked report? really? That is the news story here. Its all over the press, even the lead on FB news at the right side.

you might think I don’t like you very much, but that is not true. This is just a message board. I am not mean. really. Its not personal or about you as a person. I’m commenting on the story and you keep making this about you.

I don’t understand you, but that is not the same.

Quit trying to bait me into an argument, ok? I don’t play that way. I’m moved on from that crap you and BTDT pulled. Lets keep these things on topic, I am and would appreciate you knocking off the victim stuff. I speak the same way to everyone, I promise. I am not singling you out. Don’t flatter yourself.

I am a very logical person, if that reads as mean than that is on you. I have zero emotion when I post. Its just a horse BB. Don’t let it be anything more.