Does anyone know where to find a list of teams?? Their website is not super well designed and fleshed out yet. Also, will it be streamed on cmh?
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Try World of showjumping, the calendar.
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I was laughing a little at the prize list last night. Some of the specs are very funny to me:
- No bothering with unconventional tack and what that means- snaffle, pelham, full bridle, standing martingale. Everything else is illegal except a “hunter gag”
- a coop jump is defined as “a chicken coop hinged at the top and free at the bottom” which is intriguing.
- no trot jumps in bold- they’re drawing the line somewhere.
- Striking off on the wrong lead on the courtesy circle may be corrected with a simple or flying change without penalty
Also they brought in someone to run the ingate from the states. I’m curious how the french judge’s panel is going to score compared to the others.
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That is the definition of an illegal coop jump in the prize list.
CMH is listed as the broadcast partner.
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I think this was just a copy-paste from the USEF Hunter rulebook. But I wonder why they prohibited trot jumps.
Also, I should’ve just scrolled down on their website and seen that CMH is listed as a sponsor 
duh.
Tried world of showjumping, the tops arena website, couldn’t find a list of starters. I guess I’ll just have to be patient (ugh). I at least know one of the teams: Paige Walkenbach, John French, and I think Harrie Smolders.
It says the internationals have to complete Safe Sport in order to compete. Have they got time to do that?
The course only takes 1-2 hours or so to complete.
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That’s a lifetime for those guys, they’ll be barrelling down the autobahn at midnight juggling their phones and cigarettes doing 3 deals at a time.
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There’s a French panel of judges?
I’ve only heard about the American panel of judges.
I read that wrong- I didn’t realize that was prohibited. I was so confused how someone could or wo0uld build such an obstacle.
You can change back to the correct lead after picking up the wrong one in an opening circle with no penalty in the USEF rules? Would have been helpful for me as a kid!
I assume they prohibited trot jumps because it’s not something that a lot of European horses work on routinely and the jumper riders are going to be on borrowed horses, presumably ones that are already there and not americanized hunters flown over. I am sure I’m going to get a bunch of people coming for me saying they have bought 178 horses in europe and all of them trotted jumps flawlessly now that I said that, though.
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Judges are:
Archie Cox | Palm Springs, CA
Bob Crandall | Wellington, FL
Shane George | Magnolia, TX
Rachel Kennedy | Brookeville, MD
Adeline Wirth-Negre | France
Hope Glynn | Petaluma, CA
So not really a french “panel,” just a single judge from France.
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They clarified in the USEF rules a few years back that it was not necessarily considered as a major fault.
Unlike a break to the trot anywhere else on course once the canter is fully established, which is definitely a major fault.
They may have tweaked it a little bit for this particular event, but this is the current wording in the USEF rulebook.
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Ah, thanks.
I guess that explains why I was not familiar with the one person, since I did not realize she was from France. Lol.
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OK that list of judges has pushed this entire thing into farce territory for me. How on earth did they get European GP riders to agree to be judged by this lot? lol. Seriously though, Jan Tops must be stopped before he spreads american hunter nonsense worldwide.
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Presumably this is just a sales push to increase the price of some European horses? I can not see any widespread public interest in watching American style hunters in Europe because there never seems to be any visible audience in any video I’ve seen of the shows even in America.
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That’s what I thought at first.
But then I found out that the game plan is for Americans to bring their horses to Europe to show them in the hunters, if I understand it correctly. So that seems like an entirely different kettle of fish.
More like the Global Champion Tour shows, where people are paying a fortune to show their jumpers in spots where they can get pictures taken with the Eiffel Tower or whatever in the background behind the jump.
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That makes sense… I saw a video on their instagram of someone (Augusta maybe?) saying the showing in the Tops International arena is a dream for so many people etc etc… which makes sense.
Sort of like ecotourism, but for horse shows. Lol.
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They should make them jump around the Dublin horseshow working hunter course. I’d watch that, especially if they brought the spiders back.
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When you get bored of traveling to the same dozen USA horse resorts and need to spend more money I guess.
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