Another thing I have noticed is that the Tattersalls and racing folks always seem to call theirs a sale not auction. I have a number of racing breeder friends and they are going to sales, never auctions (unless it is in reference to New Holland or Thurmont). Its been proven over and over in ads, changing the wording can have a big change in perception. I have not been to the KY sales, but some of those folks may be better for dealing with high end horses
Know of any British auctioneers in the area?
How about a British " stiff upper lip:winkgrin:?"
Center;5924763]That was also a problem with the Chestnut Lawn auctions. Maybe a Boston accent would be better? 
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in Brazil after they have you good and sauced,as well as the 25 people at your table with you,they announce the bidding increments(4,6,8,12,20) and so every $100 you bid in increased by that much:winkgrin:
could you just see that here???:lol:
Tamara
[QUOTE=Fairview Horse Center;5925408]
Need auctioneer with European accent and/or a very cultured voice.
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I know we’ve talked about this several times and I agree, the way we view auctions is very different in this country. The process is not believed in like it is in Germany - most expect to find mostly junk or problems with a few diamonds in the rough.
FWIW I don’t think the accents had anything to do with it.
I personally don’t think that the accent of the auctioneer had anything to do with it.
I think the awful weather, the poor economy and the fact that Americans are just not comfortable buying (high dollar) horses at auctions yet are the main problems.
They had 2 competing shows close by, both dragging folk away. The weather was awful, I for one had no intention of going once I saw the snow on Fri evening.
And in general folk are just not that comfortable buying horses for big prices in an auction setting.
I have sold several horses thru PAS auctions and found them very professional and efficient. But this year has been a very hard year, and I think the weather was the final straw.
JMHO
MW
I think it’s professional to MAKE SURE THAT THE LIVE STREAM IS RUNNING and that TELEPHONE BIDS are able to come in. Plenty of people were trying to tune in to this auction, some with the intent to possibly buy. I was one of those. Is it fair to the sellers to miss so many possible bids. I personally think not.
If the live feed is up and running, the weather is not such a factor.
When I was finally able to tune in, the “down home Western-sounding pleas and bargaining” of the auctioneer, definitely put me off. It was not at all like the Verden sales and didn’t really inspire confidence. The auctioneer didn’t do anything to promote each horse except, in most cases, read from the information already posted in the catalog. It all looked like a rush job with no in-depth preparation or professionalism on the part of the auctioneer, though I understand the riders/trainers were good. Of course, as there was no live feed, only sound and that after many minutes had passed, there was also no real way to watch and bid.
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I think it’s professional to MAKE SURE THAT THE LIVE STREAM IS RUNNING and that TELEPHONE BIDS are able to come in. Plenty of people were trying to tune in to this auction, some with the intent to possibly buy. I was one of those. Is it fair to the sellers to miss so many possible bids. I personally think not.
If the live feed is up and running, the weather is not such a factor.
When I was finally able to tune in, the “down home Western-sounding pleas and bargaining” of the auctioneer, definitely put me off. It was not at all like the Verden sales and didn’t really inspire confidence. The auctioneer didn’t do anything to promote each horse except, in most cases, read from the information already posted in the catalog. It all looked like a rush job with no in-depth preparation or professionalism on the part of the auctioneer, though I understand the riders/trainers were good. Of course, as there was no live feed, only sound and that after many minutes had passed, there was also to real way to watch.[/QUOTE]
I agree. And every time PAS does a sporthorse auction, their online bidding FAILS. I think the consignors should be entitled to a refund of fees. The largest potential group of buyers would be those with remote access, not those onsite. The WIHS horse show managed to have a perfect live feed of their entire week of events. The technology is not complicated. At the prices PAS charges, there is no excuse to not offer live feed and bidding.
Experienced equestrian speaks queens English and fluent in German for hire!
[QUOTE=Fairview Horse Center;5925408]
OK, lets try a list
Needs to be a a venue that is close or the same place as many people with a lot of money to spend on sporthorse prospects (show/fancy benefit, entertaining exhibition, etc)
At a time when those people are bored and looking for something fancy to do while at the venue (audience to include area for Benefit dinner = $200/plate?)
Needs wait staff and fancy tables, champagne, etc.
% of sale price to go to MUCH loved charity/fund?
Ability of horses presented during the fancy dinner. (play higher and higher with a single jump for jumping horses? Trot lengthenings for dressage horses?
Needs to be a comfortable temperature
Need auctioneer with European accent and/or a very cultured voice.
People need to feel excited about paying a LOT (bragging rights), not getting a bargain.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree…like a polo match atmosphere? Well if someone starts one up then I am for hire as a speaker. For 20+ years living in the US people have been telling me they love my accent and could listen to me forever. I have always been in sales while here in the US and I speak fluent German and know a bit or two about sport horses having lived and trained in England and Germany !
PM me seriously!
I went to this elite sport horse auction and found it to be incredibly nice excluding the nor’easter weather. We were able to watch the horses being ridden and ride working with the trainer from Germany starting a couple days before the actual auction. Tim Jennings on the day of the auction was dressed in a suit and long coat due to the weather and presented himself professionally. Since most of the buyers had already been there prior to look at the horses, see them ridden, and ride if applicable they already knew which horses they were most interested in for purchasing. Some went for high prices, some were less, and some were not sold. We came home with a beautiful young Oldenburg that is truly a dream to work with and love. We can’t wait to attend this year and truly will look forward to the entire experience.
Oh and yes there was champagne and mimosas served but since I was more interested in the horses it didn’t really matter. Others that just came to watch, however, enjoyed the drinks. They also had a catering truck there that served some good food. The only bummer part of the experience for many there was dealing with the weather. We love “weather” but it was a concern with the wind and forecasted snow that day but luckily it wasn’t that bad. It was just a very cold day but we are so thankful we went, met the incredibly nice people there running the auction, and came home with our dream horse.
It’s been 9 months since that auction, and I still get an anxiety attack every time I think about it.
For me, who had a very nice horse in that auction, it was an unmitigated disaster. If anyone wants the details, they can contact me privately, and I’ll reply as soon as my pulse drops below 140.
I will say this. Hans brought over an absolutely TOP NOTCH berieter. She was just outstanding: http://youtu.be/hoN3DZn4NVo
