The Maestro has written another book

The Great American Flouncinator

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Prepares eagle catch net.

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Alternatively this might have been a strategic flounce in the hope that all the other clients would rally round and beg him not to go, forcing the BOs to change their minds?

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@McGurk The Swamp Town Express is in motion. Your reading material should be at your place on Tuesday.

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I think he does truly believe it. Hence his oft-repeated claims that she was schooling at FEI level.

It’s just more evidence that he honestly and truly does not have any knowledge of dressage. If he can’t understand the directives and requirements for Third and Fourth Level, and can’t see that his sweet mare is far from meeting those fundamental requirements it’s not just delusion; it’s just plain ignorance.

The delusion comes in when he truly believes that the only reason he received shamefully low scores is because the residents of Swamp Town somehow managed to convince not one, but two judges, to risk their reputations by purposefully underscoring some nobody ā€œtrainerā€ from nowhere that few people have ever heard of.

A normal person would be embarrassed at such poor performances in public - especially since there is photographic and video evidence to confirm just how bad the tests were. A normal horse person would also be ashamed of asking their horse to perform at a level for which they are completely unprepared. Nick Peronace does not seem to be a normal person.

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@KBC

The eagle has taken off. :laughing:

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Well said, @BigMama1 :+1:

When NP was young, he was working under/alongside much more experienced dressage riders and trainers. Someone was onsite to correct his position and use of his aids.

Skip ahead years and he’s teaching himself via books and videos without any real time feedback from a more knowledgeable person. Once his riding and training is put on public display and evaluated, the whole FEI fantasy comes crashing down. Yet rather than take responsibility and question his self-taught approach, he creates a convenient conspiracy: Swamp Town corrupted the judges.

I also struggle with how he cold called stables offering clinics and lessons. He figured that if he did well, he’d end up with paying clients. If he sucked, they’d simply shoo him away and no big deal. He’d move on to the next place. WHO DOES THIS?

Granted, there are people on my local Craigslist who should’ve never bought a horse, and now they have a 1,000-pound beast standing in their backyard. They might be willing to have someone, anyone, stop by and render help.

But the rest of us? No thanks. For a variety of reasons that seem to escape his mental grasp, we will never be among his Happy Satisfied.

Apparently he missed the part in Life where we learn the adage, ā€œDon’t call us. We’ll call you.ā€

Like many of you, throughout my life I’ve been asked by trainers to catch ride horses, or to keep a few of the training horses tuned up while the rest of the barn is on the road showing. I have never waltzed into a barn, or cold called a trainer, and offered, ā€œHey, can I ride some of your horses? How about I teach some lessons?ā€

The fact that he couldn’t foresee how this business model would ultimately backfire on him, as the greater horse community called into question his puffed-up resume and exaggerated claims, is actually quite astounding. At least that’s my opinion.

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This is an aside but why do they always choose Nuno as their virtual trainer / inspiration? I’ve seen Gerd Heuschmann mentioned once (oh reader how I laughed :joy:) but the selection of Nuno seems to be a key indication of someone who knows little of the subject matter.

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Nuno (who was Portuguese) is idolized as the last living link in classical before modern dressage went toxic and German.

There might be some truth in that, but my classically inclined friend who collects literature on the subject has decided that Nuno’s horses don’t always look as light as his fans claim.

As far as NP: do we actually know he trained with anyone famous anywhere? Virtually all his claims that we can verify turn out to be false. Why do we believe he actually had more than passing contact with quality instruction?

I’m willing to believe that he was sent once to a low end riding camp that was mostly girls and that he was socially awkward and ostracized. I’m willing to believe that he had a backyard Appaloosa and was a self taught rider. I’m willing to believe there was a quality show barn in the area. But not that he ever had one single lesson at said barn, let alone worked there or did exercise rides. Maybe applied for a groom job and got turned down or fired.

I think the person upthread nailed it when they said he might have assumed dressage was so European, remote, and unfamiliar that he could say what he wanted. That suggests he did not go anywhere near a dressage barn or watch any shows.

I was a self taught kid. I got a few horse training books and taught my horse a few things, not entirely correctly, in reining and dressage. No one was doing either locally at that time. But because I am not delusional I never thought that made me a natural born trainer. Rather, I knew there were things I couldn’t wrap my head around (what is contact? What is true collection? What is the Indirect Rein of Opposition?) without more input.

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Nuno is why Nick rides in a slouchy posture with his hands in his lap. The chair seat, however, is all Nick.

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Because his riding videos look unathletic and the horses easy to ride?

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Nick says he has given ā€œthose peopleā€ so many chances to work with him and no one has taken him up on his offer.

I seem to recall at least two places gave him a chance, though I do not remember the names of the places. One was a VERY nice place and the owner was offering up a variety of riders/horses at various levels. Not sure why that didn’t happen. Maybe he got scared of the prospect of confirming his inadequacy, maybe they wouldn’t pay outrageous travel expenses. The owner was aware of who Nick was and it was a ā€œput up or shut upā€ situation.

The second one looked like it was about to happen until Nick says no videos could be made and he would have a couple of security people there to confiscate people’s phones and cameras. That clinic didn’t happen.

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Wasn’t there another clinic where he eventually had to refund some riders’ money because they were so unsatisfied??

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A Flounce To Come
It Started with a Flounce
Flounce Epectations.
A tail of Two Flounces
T Flounce or Not To Flounce
The Art of the Flounce

We shall be flouncing into herstory as The Flouncing Queens

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Does anyone have any insight into what NP is actually doing these days for work?

House husband.

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:face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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IIRC this clip is the warmup from one of the shows where he shows Third / Fourth. According to Nick, it’s also ā€œproofā€ of his awesome riding abilities and proof his low scores were unjustified.

Now if this were the warm up for an Intro or Training Level test, it wouldn’t look bad at all. But if a ā€œGrand Prix trainerā€ can’t look at this and see a horse who isn’t close to meeting the requirements of Third / Fourth, then the judge really isn’t the problem here.

https://fb.watch/85_CIR8vHx/

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After you watch that video, keep watching and it will go on and you will get to see some of his other videos.

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Have you ridden many Lusitanos?

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