OK…the news release that can be used is now posted here
The book is a good read. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312143583/sr=1-2/qid=…442?%5Fencoding=UTF8
Great! I’ve got to scoot out to the farm & tuck the Avemaster in bed (I’ve messed my back up & he hasn’t seen me in days) but I’ll e-mail you an order when I get back.
Meanwhile, I’ve linked to the Palm Beach Post article on www.noreinstatement.org now.
Good for you Robin. I don’t think this has anything to do with levels of competition, it has to do with morality and what we will leave behind for the generations that will follow all of us.
Originally posted by C.Boylen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>But I do think that those who feel passionately about it should keep tabs on PV and his comings and goings, documenting violations when they occur.
stalk 2 (stôk)
v. stalked, stalk·ing, stalks
vv.tr.
- To pursue by tracking stealthily.
- To follow or observe (a person) persistently, especially out of obsession or derangement.
- To go through (an area) in pursuit of prey or quarry </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The answers were none of my business, anthem. Please disregard. (The questions had to do with who signs the entries as trainer for Acres Wild clients, who owns Acres Wild, etc.)
Snowy, that is what I have been saying all along. As much as I would not like to see him reinstated, he will be back and embraced.
Do you all read the cynicism and the growing attitude of Oh! Well! what’s the use everything is crooked or politely “political”.
That is the resaon for the petition and that is the reason we all need to take a stand finally at a certain place and time.
It is not acceptable to accept “political choices” in sport. The more we ignore the bigger the crimes grow. I have little doubt at that time those involved did not consider thier crime a serious infraction of the law. Afterall with horse dealers it is always buyer beware…we know they all lie.
Just like Dick Nixon didn’t think breaking into Democratic Headquarters was all that bad. And, Bill Clinton really believed that what he did with Monica was not sex. All travesties start as what hose people believed was acceptable. Rape…well she really wanted it…girls always have to say no…she liked it rough. Thereby we had the muder in Central Park from “rough sex”. I’m certain the killer believed it was a male entitlement.
We The PEOPLE have to take charge by letting the governance at any time so they know where we draw the line. We have become confortable with delegating that authority to any kind of governance.
It is the cynicism and apathy of concession to the ineitable evil deed that was bred by our cynicism and apathy. I’ve read apologies for being an idealist. That is sad. Idealism and perfection are the goals we should strive for and failure to be perfect should be a reason for defeat.
People who have something to gain from the expertise of PV will make excuses for him and themselves. That is human afterall. But, it is not the level of honor and integrity that I find acceptable. I will not apologize for being an idealist. I will as long as I am am able argue for a level playing field. That means where the best is the best ant just the one who can afford to spend the most.
It doesn’t require government subsidy. How much money is collected at $5.00 a horse for every horse? That money could be better spent plain and simple.
This article was published as Results from a show. Mason Plelps Agency should have had the actual list off the entry forms. If not he was sadly guilty of improper reporting and his whole little empire could collpase if no one believed his PR Releases any more.
A Media Agency has only two legitmate sources of information the Entry Form information given to each ring and the Announcers notes submitted from that list. It can hardly be a typo.
Originally posted by Boston Chicken:
Call me crazy but I am thinking that this greenie may be very close to the situation currently being discussed…
I agree, trying to throw fuel on the fire. Its not going to work. 
Originally posted by Sherry3313 Groom of Winners Aefvue Farms:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>Originally posted by C.Boylen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-title”>quote:</div><div class=“ip-ubbcode-quote-content”>C.Boylen you can’t have it both ways.
The only way I want it is the correct way. Your explanation of tax practices was incorrect for most of the horse-owning population. I’m not arguing anything other than facts. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don’t think that “most of the horse owning population” have horses that cost anywhere near what the insured horses that were killed cost. Probably “most of the horse owning population” that you are referring to, don’t even insure their horses. The people that have the horses that compete at the upper echelon horse shows like WEF are a very small percentage of “the horse owning population”. “Most of the horse owning population” probably take care of their own horses or board at a barn that doesn’t have an indoor and doesn’t cost four figures per month to board a horse. And “most of the horse owning population” would probably have jumped at the chance to have any one of the horses that were killed for the insurance money.
And “most of the horse owning population” could donate a horse to a non-profit organization (like many handicapped riding programs are) AND get a tax deduction WITHOUT being a “business.” All you have to do to be able to write the donation off is [that you] itemize your deductions on your IRS tax form. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I have to say that C. Boylen IS CORRECT here.
MOST OF THE HORSE OWNING PUBLIC do NOT run their “horse operations” as a business.
Therefore FOR MOST OF THE HORSE OWNING PUBLIC, what was suggested here
quote:
mwe it is really quite simple as you can depreciate your investment in a horse annually on your tax form you can write off horses sold at a loss against your income and get a tax credit.
WOULD BE TAX FRAUD.
ONLY If you are running it AS A BUSINESS could you write of the losses.
I agree that “most of the horse owning public” COULD get a tax deduction (NOT a credit) for donating to a charity, but that wasn’t what C.Boylen was addressing.
But you can only get a tax deduction for the actual value of the horse, not “what you paid for it” or “what it is insured for.” And the rules for donating to a charity have become much more stingent
C.Boylen is completely correct about this.
Just because you don’t like some of her opinions is no reason to attack her when she is being completely correct and objective.
Yes, ABSOLUTELY. This is going to the FEI and the USOC, as well as USEF. I want to be able to demonstrate to the FEI that members from ALL of its affiliate countries object.
So please, DO sign, and please pass the link on to anyone you may know both in Canada and overseas.
Thank you!
I see, you talk circles around them that make no sense and they do whatever you want.
Hmm probably pretty effective.
Folks, it is certainly not unheard of for a press release to be in error. Lay off. This is not an inquisition, it is a DISCUSSION… although I fear some of you don’t know the difference.
Was she ever suspended from USEF/AHSA and if so when did she get back in. I tried checking links, but couldn’t seem to find it.
What in the world is negative about a group of horse people working to make sure the horse community is safe from bad guys???
That is a positve thing, not negative in most people’s eyes.
OK - back on topic. How many think PV would be a shoe-in for reinstatement if he was as charming and funny as me?
Scout, are you like Nancy Banfield’s agent or something-her name is in just about all of your posts…and I am pissed…she flew under the radar…all the more reason to be prepared…
oh, and is she allowed to have her horses in a barn with electricity, especially when she is present? Oh wait, my bad, someone else did the dirty work for her-
It’s probably worth re-stating, at this point, that all the suspensions are of indefinite duration. Re-read the language here.
Suspended individuals were granted different dates after which they may apply for reinstatement, but any talk of anyone having “served his or her term” is NOT accurate.
Ahem…Christ, now the BNJs, BNTs AND the INSURANCE AGENTS are flocking to AWF…Sorry, but COME ON 
Could someone please stay on the subject of the reinstated and tell me, dear God, that Dana Tripp at least lost her veterinary license?
