The Triple Crown Races 2019

[Rackonteur]

The Wests need to accept the decision gracefully and get their revenge in the time honored sportsman manner. They need to put that horse back on the track and beat the stuffings out of all the other contenders. This is just making them look small and frankly potentially hurting their horse’s second career because perception rules stallion selection. Their horse’s class needs to overcome their lack of class IMO.

In other words, this is a case of a Thoroughbred being managed by non-Thoroughbreds who barely make the “grade”?

[skydy]

I always had the impression that the Wests were respected and well thought of. I don’t know them but was a little surprised by the lawsuit. I’ll never been in the dilemma in which they find themselves so I can’t really second guess them.

Hopefully this controversy will die down soon, Santa Anita will not be on the front page of the mainstream papers, and as the season goes on, racing will be back “as usual”.

[Rackonteur]

@skydy

I always had the impression that the Wests were respected and well thought of. I don’t know them but was a little surprised by the lawsuit. I’ll never been in the dilemma in which they find themselves so I can’t really second guess them.

Hopefully this controversy will die down soon, Santa Anita will not be on the front page of the mainstream papers, and as the season goes on, racing will be back “as usual”.

It probably will be back as usual after the Preakness. The interest of the general public is about as constant as the moon (to borrow from Shakespeare).

I just wish they could have done a do-over the first sunny day after the Derby.

[Pronzini]

@skydy

OP ed by an attorney; http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com…ays-no-chance/

Thank you for this. I think it is well reasoned and supported.

As for West, I’m all for the full employment of lawyers but to imply that you are the “little guy” in this dispute when you have four of them representing you is pretty funny.

[skydy]

@Pronzini

Thank you for this. I think it is well reasoned and supported.

As for West, I’m all for the full employment of lawyers but to imply that you are the “little guy” in this dispute when you have four of them representing you is pretty funny.

:lol: No, “the little guy” isn’t really the descriptor that comes to mind…

[Palm_Beach]

@ASB Stars

My opinion on Saez’s suspension is that it is a piece of the commission’s foundation in the upcoming case defending against the Wests. You have to make Saezs actions especially egregious to substantiate their decision.

I totally disagree with this. The stewards are not going to trivialize someone’s livelihood because after taking 20 minutes to come to a decision, full well knowing the ramifications, they can’t stand behind the decision on it’s own merits. It’s no joke to set someone down and prevent him or her from earning a living for 15 days, especially this time of year. I hope you understand the background of each steward, and how she or he obtained the necessary qualifications to become a steward. They don’t just pull them in off the streets.

[SnicklefritzG]

I disagree. Compared with other recent suspensions, this is a CYA move.

@Palm Beach

I totally disagree with this. The stewards are not going to trivialize someone’s livelihood because after taking 20 minutes to come to a decision, full well knowing the ramifications, they can’t stand behind the decision on it’s own merits. It’s no joke to set someone down and prevent him or her from earning a living for 15 days, especially this time of year. I hope you understand the background of each steward, and how she or he obtained the necessary qualifications to become a steward. They don’t just pull them in off the streets.

[EventerAJ]

Gary West just issued a challenge to the “interfered” Derby horses War of Will, Long Range Toddy, Bodexpress and Country House. $5M to each/any of them who can beat Maximum Security at any race in 2019. WOW.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/233730/west-issues-20m-challenge-to-kentucky-derby-rivals

[LaurieB]

@EventerAJ

Gary West just issued a challenge to the “interfered” Derby horses War of Will, Long Range Toddy, Bodexpress and Country House. $5M to each/any of them who can beat Maximum Security at any race in 2019. WOW.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/233730/west-issues-20m-challenge-to-kentucky-derby-rivals

:eek:

Now things are just getting stupid.

[skydy]

Yikes. I’m not sure that this sort of grudge is as good for racing as West thinks.

[mommy_peanut]

I don’t see it as a grudge.
West has the $$ to put where his mouth is & isn’t afraid to do so. He obviously stands behind his horse.

Who knows, maybe one or more of the other owners will take him up on it.
Regardless, I don’t see it hurting the sport when there are many more serious issues already.

[dressagetraks]

I would be more impressed if he made it a one-sided offer instead of wanting a matching bet if they have “equal confidence” in their horses. Few owners inhabit his financial circle. This amount is nothing to him, quite a bit to many others, and that’s not necessarily due to lack of “confidence.” Such an offer would quite likely encourage them all to join the same field, and if he has that much “confidence,” to use his word, in Max, he still shouldn’t have to pay them, because he’s sure his horse would be ahead.

ETA: The race I’m still waiting for is Omaha Beach against all of them.

[skydy]

I think a donation to the Injured Jockey Fund would be a nice gesture regardless.

Agree, it would be nice to see Omaha Beach run.

[Where_sMyWhite]

@skydy

I think a donation to the Injured Jockey Fund would be a nice gesture regardless.

PDJF

$5M :rolleyes: unless that $$ goes to the PDJF and that is great idea, thanks!

[AffirmedHope]

I want a match race between all of them. Preferably with a fire finish line they have to jump. And fireworks. And streamers trailing from the saddle.

[Where_sMyWhite]

Match race, IIRC, by definition is between 2 horses (in this case). If you had a race with all of them, wouldn’t be a match race then

[Palm_Beach]

@EventerAJ

Gary West just issued a challenge to the “interfered” Derby horses War of Will, Long Range Toddy, Bodexpress and Country House. $5M to each/any of them who can beat Maximum Security at any race in 2019. WOW.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/233730/west-issues-20m-challenge-to-kentucky-derby-rivals

I’m wondering if it’s even legal - is it considered a wager?

[Montanas_Girl]

Belmont picks, anyone? I’m still torn between Tacitus, due to my connection with some of his people, and War of Will (thought I don’t think WoW can get the distance).

[Irish_Ei_s]

There’s some seriously fine racing on this undercard today.
Records are falling like rain…

Not betting today, too much conflicting info to make a decision so I spent my bet cash on my garden and puppy. Those I’ll get a return on

[Irish_Ei_s]

When I can’t pick a horse, I pick jockeys.
Today, I’d box Velasquez and Smith