http://panachehackneys.com/Panache%20Merlyn.htm
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She breeds some very nice horses. I have seen several of them competing in combined driving.
I was surprised by his sabino expression. I don’t think of that much white when I think of Hackneys but I might just be misinformed! I miss some of these fun breeds. The elite hunter/jumper world sometimes seems so sterile.
that’s more than just Sabino 
Splash and likely Dominant White, maybe also Sabino LOL
I am fairly ignorant on the Dutch Harness Horse, but do they have Hackney influence? I want to say they do, and I would suspect the Hackney is where they get their color from. I wonder where it comes from in the Hackney? Do they have any sort of Spanish blood? Lots of patterns there.
I don’t believe there is any Spanish blood in the Hackney breed. They trace from the Shales horse (foaled in 1755) who was decended from a Thoroughbred and ‘Hunting Mare.’
There were at one time some very colourful Hackneys driven and shown in the late nineteenth and early twentith century up till the first world war. Sadly, this colour has nearly died out and only palely represented by the modern Canadian horses.
The French were particularly fond of the Norfolk horses they called ‘Haquenee’. Doubtless, some influence of these horses might have found it’s way into the Dutch horses.
Originally Hackneys were bred as riding horses. The reason for their gait (which incidentally the Dutch Friesian Horses share) is that a horse who steps such will not be so prone to tripping. The roads in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries were abysmal in the best of times. Thus, a horse that naturally picked up their feet was a good one to have.
By the by, did you know that Hambletonian, the foundation sire of the Standardbread (american harness racing horses) was decended from hackney breeding?
Also, the Hackney Horses and the Ponys are in the same stud book. I don’t know of any other breed that has such a thing.
Hackneys are an intellegent, energetic, and eager to please horse. They can be a bit much sometimes, but it’s mostly out of overabundance of enthuasim than anything else.
Oh yes, and they are excellent Dressage horses, under saddle or in harness.
Hope I haven’t bored you.
I’m pretty new at Hackney horses myself though I have wanted one for over thirty years. A very good book, if you’re interested in the breed, is Tom Ryder’s book, The High Stepper. The name’s so-so, but the book is excellent and wonderfully illustrated.
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that’s more than just Sabino Splash and likely Dominant White, maybe also Sabino LOL
I am fairly ignorant on the Dutch Harness Horse, but do they have Hackney influence? I want to say they do, and I would suspect the Hackney is where they get their color from. I wonder where it comes from in the Hackney? Do they have any sort of Spanish blood? Lots of patterns there.[/QUOTE]
It is the sabino gene, which can produce some interesting color patterns at times.
I have owned Hackney Horses for 20 years and currently own 9 of them.
There is significant Hackney influence in many of the Dutch Harness Horses. Cambridge Cole was a well know sire of many of them and he was a registered Hackney Horse. GTF Maker’s Mark is a registered Hackney stallion in the USA that is approved for DHH breeding. There are others in Holland.
But it’s not just Sabino
Unfortunately, Sabino has been used for a long time to describe what has more recently been realized to be Splash, and even more recently as Dominant White. Having done a lot more digging into these “spotted” Hackneys, there is a LOT of Dominant White and Splash, though Sabino isn’t out of the picture.
I’m going to try a picture here and am not sure if it will work. So forgive me if it doesn’t:
Okay… aparently this venue won’t allow it. Therefore here is the link to my Picasa album:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sSyEVaxTsak/Tp3TNVL6WcI/AAAAAAAAAz4/RkHegieHX-U/s640/olympic%252520quick%252520change.jpg
The whip up is Miss Sylvia Brocklebank. She’s depicted in the painting, as she competed during the Quick Change Competition at Olympia (England) in 1911 (she won, by the way). The competition was to change teams the fastest. Miss Brocklebank’s team changed in sixty-eight seconds (if I recall right). Anyway, if one would notice the horses awaiting the change (leased from Tattersals for the season), there’s quite a bit of colour aparent. This was at one time not uncommon in the hackney. Modern breeding programmes have eliminated this kind of colour and greys from the breed, sadly.
VERY neat picture!!
Lovely horse, and also the old painting is great.
Painting is superb. While I have no personal experience with the Hackney Horse, I have seen them in driving competition.
I have used Hackney Ponies quite successfully in my sportpony program, owned several and three of them have had extensive white markings. One of the most successful small ponies I bred was sired by my small Connemara stallion and out of a Hackney Pony mare.
I’ve thought that a Hackney Pony crossed with a GRP would make a fantastic driving or dressage pony. I’m curious to see pics of the Conn/Hackney cross.
I really do like the Hackney’s, I’ve met 5 and driven 1, as well as meeting some Welsh/Hackney Pony crosses. They tend to be hotter, more forward horses (as I’ve been told) but they are very athletic.
This guy is my favorite Hackney:
He’s a world-class CDE horse now turned dressage horse. Competed in the World Singles Championship as an individual in 2008 (I believe) and did very well. He’s now schooling 3rd level and showing 2nd. He’s a great horse, but apparently was a firecracker when he was younger!
Wow. Brings a tear to my eye. What a beautiful athlete.
here is another cutie
http://www.erosarabhacks.com/stallions/eros-anubis/ the video, the pics aren’t great
and they have his sire too. http://www.erosarabhacks.com/stallions/chambord-donti/
I like his leg markings lol
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I’ve thought that a Hackney Pony crossed with a GRP would make a fantastic driving or dressage pony. I’m curious to see pics of the Conn/Hackney cross.
I really do like the Hackney’s, I’ve met 5 and driven 1, as well as meeting some Welsh/Hackney Pony crosses. They tend to be hotter, more forward horses (as I’ve been told) but they are very athletic.
This guy is my favorite Hackney:
He’s a world-class CDE horse now turned dressage horse. Competed in the World Singles Championship as an individual in 2008 (I believe) and did very well. He’s now schooling 3rd level and showing 2nd. He’s a great horse, but apparently was a firecracker when he was younger![/QUOTE]
:eek: Atta-horse! Good job. :yes:
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I’ve thought that a Hackney Pony crossed with a GRP would make a fantastic driving or dressage pony. I’m curious to see pics of the Conn/Hackney cross.
I really do like the Hackney’s, I’ve met 5 and driven 1, as well as meeting some Welsh/Hackney Pony crosses. They tend to be hotter, more forward horses (as I’ve been told) but they are very athletic. [/QUOTE]
The mare is close to the bottom on my “Out and About” page on my website, the little bay mare “Liberty”. http://www.stallionstation.com/kaleidoscopefarm/outandabout.html She was a talented jumper, did well for her beginner rider in hunter classes in local shows in SC, even against some of the A circuit ponies. If I remember right, she was lst or 2nd in every one of her over fences classes, average in flat classes, was not quite ‘cute pony’ enough to do well in hand but the overall scores gave her some championships. She wasn’t ‘hot’, never spooked, absolutely never refused or ran out, but she was a sensitive ride, definitely a pony that you squeezed rather than kicked and her rider loved that.
I liked my Hackney Pony/ small warmblood crosses even better as the warmblood strain gave them an even more sensible disposition and a bit more size. I would definitely go with that cross again if any of the warmblood registries would consider giving a Hackney Pony cross Book l papers if they passed inspection (which I believe they would).
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I’ve thought that a Hackney Pony crossed with a GRP would make a fantastic driving or dressage pony. I’m curious to see pics of the Conn/Hackney cross.
I really do like the Hackney’s, I’ve met 5 and driven 1, as well as meeting some Welsh/Hackney Pony crosses. They tend to be hotter, more forward horses (as I’ve been told) but they are very athletic.
This guy is my favorite Hackney:
He’s a world-class CDE horse now turned dressage horse. Competed in the World Singles Championship as an individual in 2008 (I believe) and did very well. He’s now schooling 3rd level and showing 2nd. He’s a great horse, but apparently was a firecracker when he was younger![/QUOTE]
He’s pure Hackney? Wow. I LOVE that horse.
There’s a driver (an Englishman I believe) who was at the top for many years driving four in hand and competing his own homebred Hackney crosses.
Would NOT mind this Hackney / Shire cross: http://www.draftwarmbloods.com/ShowAd/index.php?id=4e5180563e8cd
Drool :yes:
Yes, he’s pure Hackney. And he’s an top specimen of his breed. IMHO, this is a horse who should have never been gelded but apparently was gelded very young. Even gelded, he still has the presence of a stallion. He’s athletic, smart, good temperament, forward. I love this horse, and have driven and handled him a few times. He’s the Hackney that changed my mind about Hackneys.
Here’s the same horse, Koopman’s Lightening Rod, doing a Second Level test this past summer. He won his class. I believe he has only been training dressage for about a year/year and a half. I think he’s doing pretty well.
Personally, I feel the Hackney has a lot to offer the warmbloods. The ones I have met have tons of bone and strength but are never clunky. They are powerful but athletic. I think a Hackney/Selle Francais or Hackney/Holsteiner would make a good show jumper and a Hackney/Hanoverian would make a killer dressage horse. But that’s just my opinion. :winkgrin:
There is a Hackney breeding program st Fresno State http://www.fresnostatehorses.com/hackney%20mares.htm
http://www.fresnostatehorses.com/hackney%20program.htm
