Therapeutic sheets, ionic sheets, vibrating sheets, wut?

[LarkspurCO]

I’m in the market for a new Back on Track sheet and while checking prices on the new turn-out version I ran across these. I guess I am not surprised but I had to laugh when I saw the vibrating sheet:

Sportz Vibe Massage Therapy Sheet ($600)

http://www.adamshorsesupplies.com/sportz-vibe-massage-therapy-sheet-for-horses-204203#92=2573

And this one from Rambo – is this new?

The Rambo Ionic Stable Sheet ($230)
http://www.adamshorsesupplies.com/rambo-ionic-stable-sheet-204204#92=2466

“Rambo Ionic Stable Sheet uses a revolutionalry polyester fabric printed with powdered tourmaline crystal which releases negative ions to increase blood flow to the muscles. …”

Does anyone use this? I like how Rambo fits on my horses and I like the Back on Track sheets but I hate how they fit.

[HotMess]

I would like to know folks thoughts on these too

[Andean_Echo]

If you’re just looking for a nice sheet, get the one that fits. But I wouldn’t believe any of these claims until someone showed me a paper, preferably multiple papers, that proved such claims. And I highly doubt those papers exist.

[FreshAir]

I was a big BOT believer until I bought an elbow brace for myself. It didn’t make a difference at all. I do think the BOT wraps help alleviate stocking up.

[Daisyesq]

The Rambo sheet with “ionic” fibers must be an attempt to compete with the Back on Track Sheet, which uses ceramic fibers to reflect heat back to the horse. Of course, any sheet “reflects heat” back to the horse…it keeps them warm.

Anecdote, my dressage horse who is usually stiff and has a long back, seems to go better when he wears a BOT sheet every night. And so he does.

[MysticOakRanch]

I have a BOT sheet - can’t say I am a believer. I suspect it just has more with warming up the muscles. But that is based on a single horse’s reaction - I have friends who swear by them (which is why I bought one). I’d love to hear people’s opinion on the new Rambo sheet, because I agree, they make horsewear that fits.

[merrygoround]

BTDT

I want my money back.

[nu2u]

I used BOT gloves and wrist brace on myself…shortly after invested in cap, neck and sheet for my horse it worked so well for me. I will tell you that I have a heating pad that contains Tourmaline crystals and IT ROCKS!!! even with the heat off I tell you the Tourmaline works wonders on me so if it fits try it…heck wrap yourself up in it before putting it on the horse and if you don’t feel a difference send it back.

[LarkspurCO]

[QUOTE=nu2u;8283851]
I used BOT gloves and wrist brace on myself…shortly after invested in cap, neck and sheet for my horse it worked so well for me. I will tell you that I have a heating pad that contains Tourmaline crystals and IT ROCKS!!! even with the heat off I tell you the Tourmaline works wonders on me so if it fits try it…heck wrap yourself up in it before putting it on the horse and if you don’t feel a difference send it back.[/QUOTE]

That’s exactly what I was thinking of doing. If I can’t feel it I don’t want it. I. have lots of BOT stuff with which to compare.

[LarkspurCO]

Alas, a testimonial. Sounds like the fit is good bet anyway.

http://e-venting.co.uk/2015/05/tried-and-tested-horseware-rambo-ionic-rug/

[Manahmanah]

None of these “scientific advances” have any peer reviewed research backing them.

[Guilherme]

[QUOTE=Manahmanah;8284364]
None of these “scientific advances” have any peer reviewed research backing them.[/QUOTE]

The placebo effect is quite real.

G.

[LarkspurCO]

Yes, placebo effect is real. So is far infrared radiation.

Personally, I don’t believe these fabrics are any sort of miracle cure and certainly would not rely on them as a sole solution for a problem. But I have found the t-shirts, socks and wrist bands helpful for myself and I think the saddle pads and sheets might be helpful to the horses.

Call me a fool, but I also have a cold laser unit that I use occasionally on myself and the horses. People often poo-poo laser therapy, but CSU recommended I use it as a part of the rehab program for my horse’s suspensory injury. He also received the most advanced medical treatment available – mesenchymal stem cell therapy. They aren’t exactly sorcerers working in the dark ages there, so I am following their advice.

As for the magic sheets, this horse has become tight and stiff on extended stall rest and he needs a new stable sheet anyway, so I will probably try the Rambo and see if it helps. (I also give him beer and I am sure that it helps. :D)

My older horse has a kissing spine lesion and SI arthritis he is wearing a tattered old BOT sheet as part of his rehab program (which now includes physical therapy and chiropractic and will likely be followed up with injections).

Here are a couple of overviews on far infrared radiation with discussion on ceramic impregnated materials, including citations for a few double-blind studies.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3699878/

http://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/neurobiological-mechanisms-and-perspectives-on-farinfrared-emitting-ceramic-materials-for-pain-relief-2157-7595.1000159.pdf

[LarkspurCO]

[QUOTE=merrygoround;8283741]
BTDT

I want my money back. [/QUOTE]

If you haven’t sold it you should. At least get a good chunk of your money back.

[Guilherme]

What’s your exercise program for the horse? Horses are meant to be able to move around. If you put one “in a box” then they can’t do that. There will be consequences from this “confinement.” Perhaps a few hours of turn out every day would be a better program than a blanket.

Whenever you get into the world of “alternative therapies” you will run the gamut from effective to utterly fraudulent. The higher the price the more likely you’re moving into fraud. Some may disagree, but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it!!!

Absent any reason why not I’d start with increasing turnout and go from there.

G.

[LarkspurCO]

My horse is not allowed any turnout – only controlled exercise.

I just paid a small fortune for stem cell treatment plus multiple x-rays and ultrasounds and shockwave treatments, plus board for nearly two months at a rehab farm. I am not about to turn him out and let him run around like an idiot to undo three months of rest and healing and therapies and flush several thousand dollars (and his future career) down the toilet.

His exercise program is exactly what was prescribed by the vets at CSU – twice daily hand walking. His stall has a 20x12 attached run. He goes into a “sanity pen” twice a day - https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/11882831_10204317697333825_8123366277196516720_o.jpg (that there was another $700). He’s a huge horse accustomed to running and playing for hours every day and this very limited exercise program is all that he can do right now.

But thanks for the suggestion.

[MysticOakRanch]

OMG, the joys of rehab - totally agree with you, no turnout in this kind of situation! Follow the vets orders. My mare went through rehab, and I found that a covered pipe pen helped with sanity - so she could see the other horses, have access to fresh air. Started in a 12x12 and expanded to a 12x24. Before moving to a small turnout. I know that has nothing to do with BOT sheets, just that I hear you, rehab is a b$*ch…

[QUOTE=LarkspurCO;8284658]
My horse is not allowed any turnout – only controlled exercise.

I just paid a small fortune for stem cell treatment plus multiple x-rays and ultrasounds and shockwave treatments, plus board for nearly two months at a rehab farm. I am not about to turn him out and let him run around like an idiot to undo three months of rest and healing and therapies and flush several thousand dollars (and his future career) down the toilet.

His exercise program is exactly what was prescribed by the vets at CSU – twice daily hand walking. His stall has a 20x12 attached run. He goes into a “sanity pen” twice a day - https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/11882831_10204317697333825_8123366277196516720_o.jpg (that there was another $700). He’s a huge horse accustomed to running and playing for hours every day and this very limited exercise program is all that he can do right now.

But thanks for the suggestion. :)[/QUOTE]

[burnedout]

[QUOTE=FreshAir;8283470]
I do think the BOT wraps help alleviate stocking up.[/QUOTE]

I would think that any wraps would help with stocking up. I wish someone could convince me that the sheets help since one of my boys gets pretty sore through his back.

[Lady_Eboshi]

[QUOTE=Andean Echo;8283467]
If you’re just looking for a nice sheet, get the one that fits. But I wouldn’t believe any of these claims until someone showed me a paper, preferably multiple papers, that proved such claims. And I highly doubt those papers exist.[/QUOTE]

You win the thread!

[LarkspurCO]

Hey, this is my thread so I get to declare the winner. And that is MysticOakRanch, for stopping by just to be nice and empathetic.

I ordered the Rambo sheet today and an extra sprinkling of fairy dust.