[QUOTE=Jaegermonster;2000104]
Actually it’s “Distal” but don’t feel bad, I can’t feel it either. I know where it is, just never can feel it.[/QUOTE]
Actually “Digital Pulse” is also correct, and the more commonly used term, as the pulse is taken from the “Digital Arteries” in the horses pasterns.
[QUOTE=Fessy’s Mom;2000866]
Okay, what about the latest change in terminology regarding seats. Exactly WHAT is the difference between a full seat, half seat and two point? I was always taught that half seat and two point were interchangeable. But at the Jeff Cook clinic at EA last week, he was explaining that half seat is full seat, but with your upper body forward and two point is your bum out of the saddle.
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My understanding is that “half seat” is just sitting a bit lighter in your tack, slightly forward, basically hovering. Two point, of course, is “jumping position,” so your butt is out of the saddle and your upper body forward (hip and ankles aligned). In full seat, your shoulders, hips and ankles are aligned with more weight in the saddle.
Sign me up as another person who can’t pick up my diagonals correctly to save my life. I always start posting and sit two beats. :rolleyes: You’d think I’d be able to figure out how to get it right the first time!
On wrapping…do both the pillow wraps and the standing wraps get wrapped in the same direction (i.e. clockwise on the right legs and counter on the left)? Do you start wrapping on the inside of the leg or the outside? Thanks!
<<…elastic on left–easier to adjust saddle than moving leg with sword attached…>>
I must not be understanding what you’re saying here. It appears to me that you’re saying the sword (I’m assuming you’re talking about horse cavalry) is on the right so it’s easier to adjust the saddle on the left. If I remember correctly, the sword is worn on the left since most troops (swordsmen) are/were right handed and would, therefore, have their sword carried on the left. That’s where I wore it anyway (No, wasn’t in horse cavalry, but in air cavalry units and we wore swords on occasion.) Not arguing, just trying to understand what you were saying.
Tom
I have to sing a little ‘velcro towards the back’ song while putting on splint boots or I will put them on backwards every time.
When watching other people ride, I cant see a late lead change. But I can feel them when I ride so why cant I see them?
[QUOTE=Foxygrl516;2000799]
So it IS NOT actually an elevator bit? That is just incorrect terminology? I just call it a 3 ring (NOT snaffle). Some people in my area call it a bubble bit and that really bugs me. So I’m right, it’s purpose is that of a curb in a sense that it puts pressure on the poll and lowers the head? And the people that get mad about the martingale and “mixed messages” are just assuming since it’s an “elevator” that it serves some other purpose? Wow.
That’s funny about the reins. I’ve never seen anyone use one this way. I was just working at a HT in May (where I do most of my good brainstorming) and was thinking about how leverage pisses my guy off if used constantly (which is why the 3 ring was hanging useless in the tack room) but that leverage sure would be a good thing to have ever few strides with a half halt. So I bought tiny reins and tried it. I don’t think I’ve ever been so successful with a combo like that. It is awsome. Glad to know I’m not totally off the wall in doing this. 
Thanks for the info!!![/QUOTE]
Weeeeell, whether it’s incorrect or correct is based on your background. As I said, Pony Club (British) calls it a gag, which makes sense to me.
I’ve ridden my horse in this bit (http://www.doversaddlery.com/happy-mouth-mullen-mouth-3-ring-elevator-horse-bit/p/X1-010033/cn/1473/, though I wouldn’t call this mullen-mouthed), and he HATED it with a martingale–he was still learning to balance cross country and my hands weren’t quiet enough. His balance is now better (as are my hands!), and we get along best with that bit, one rein on the largest ring (the snaffle ring) with NO martingale.
I think of it in terms of elevating the front end, rather than elevating the head. My horse will balance well in this type of bit, because it helps me to get him off my hand and off his front end. For me, it acts like a really big half-halt, rather than bringing his head and nose up too high.
I’m a PC dork, and put together the visual tables at our Quiz: this is what we had for gags:
The Dutch gag/Continental gag: http://shop.valleycountry.com.au/catalogue/category2/category159/category171/p5758http://www.hopevalleysaddlery.co.uk/acatalog/534.jpg
The American gag: http://www.horse-tack-and-equestrian-clothing.com/assets/product_images/thumbs/AC_4_69.jpg
The Cheltenham gag: http://shop.valleycountry.com.au/catalogue/category2/category159/category171/product1835
The Elevator: http://www.quickbits.net/other/76.htm
The Duncan gag: http://store.securehosting.com/stores/sh205878/shophome.php?itemprcd=EQBg20
We also had a “polo gag” which had a curved centre link (like a half moon), but I can’t find a suitable online pic.
<<…Um, I hate to tell you this but there is an “L” on the right hand also.
For a Dyslexic that ol’ “L” thing was never very helpful…>>
Yep, there’s an “L” on the right hand but it’s backwards! <g> Guess if you’re dyslexic, then the rule would have to be the “L” hand is the Right hand! <g>
Tom
One can also feel a digital pulse when there’s an abscess, so not just foundering…
There’s a TON I don’t know, and the more I know the more I realize I don’t know.
I don’t know how to give shots, I know virtually nothing about the various western disciplines, and there’s a ton of vet stuff that I don’t know (except for the stuff I’ve learned from experience, like abscesses and kick wounds!).
Like ringbone: how is that managed?
Well I’m 17, so do I get some leeway?
When tracking right, I cannot pick up the correct diagonal except from a canter-trot transition…yet I can pick up the correct diagonal (without looking) going the other way at anytime anyplace anywhere.
I couldn’t see my leads until 1 year ago.
I don’t understand the finer points of feeding. I know that sugar/starch = bad and fat/fiber = good, and maybe a bit more than that, but then you’ve lost me. I’d like to know the correct ratios for supplementation as well.
I can give IV and IM injections, but I shake badly when doing IV injections and I still need help in finding the “triangle” for the IM.
I’m a stall nazi, so no help needed there. :lol:
I don’t understand what wormers kill what and where the different worms reside in the horse.
I can never remember the horse’s respiration and pulse, but can easily remember temperature.
I have a very hard time determining how much contact is too much, or too little. Although I’ve just recently switched from western to dressage, so maybe that explains my hesitancy to take up contact with the mouth.
I don’t know how to use a surcingle and side reins.
I don’t know how to jump (jump well, that is :lol: ).
I don’t know how to drive a truck and trailer, but again…I’m seventeen so that doesn’t really count yet, does it?
I have always been told that the flash nose band is to help hold the bit in the correct position… not to keep the mouth shut (that is the noseband’s job). Haven’t a clue the figure eight noseband, would guess that it does the job of both the noseband and the flash.
Alter top… should have generalized “foot ailments” in my post, not just founder.
Another question: How exactly do bots get into the horse if the eggs of the bot fly are laid on the outside of the horse and not somewhere where they will likely be ingested by the horse (unless the horse scratches his knee with his teeth I suppose…)?
[QUOTE=jn4jenny;2000783]
For the love of God, someone PLEASE tell us how to poultice! [/QUOTE]
In addition to the other instructions, a tip for poulticing - get your hands wet (I put a couple of inches of water into a small bucket and keep it next to me) before you reach into the poultice and as you are smushing it on. That way, it will stick to the horse and not to your hands and you can mold it onto the leg better and your hands are less messy when you’re done.
IM (intramusclar) shots are easy. I found this great article one time. www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/A/ANR-1018/ANR-1018.pdf
IV is a bit tougher and something I personally like to leave to a vet (unless really necessary).
[QUOTE=jn4jenny;2000783]
For the love of God, someone PLEASE tell us how to poultice! I don’t know either! [/QUOTE]
I used to poultice legs daily when I worked at a summer camp… 50-60 horses going 2-3 hours a day, often jumping, and the ground was like concrete. Lots of puffy legs.
It is really easy. Basically we’d get a clay-based product, and rub it all over the leg below the knee. Then we’d cut up brown paper bags, wet them, and wrap them around the leg on top of the poultice. On top of the paperbag went standing bandages. We usually left them on for 24 hours, then removed them and rinsed the dry poultice off. It really did the trick to reduce swelling and heat.
When poulticing a wound or a hoof, we used warm water, epsom salt and a baby diaper. Animalintex is nice too as it contains poulticing agents but it can be pricey.
As far as things I should know and don’t… uh this is really sad but I don’t know how to ask for a flying change! Yes I could probably fudge it but I’ve never been taught properly. Spent too much time riding green beans and projects who weren’t even close to being able to do one!
[QUOTE=arabhorse2;2000132]
I eliminated that problem by buying girths with elastic on both sides! 
I really, truly, have no clue what most bits are called, and what they’re supposed to do. :uhoh: I’ve always ridden in either a loose ring snaffle, or a D ring.[/QUOTE]
Mullen - A mild unjointed snaffle, with a bowed mouthpiece often preferred by horses that are extremely sensitive to bar contact.
Loose Ring Snaffle - The “standard” single jointed snaffle. The joint allows the rider to move each half of the mouth piece independently from each other for greater control than a Mullen. The joint in the bit also allows for a harsh “nut cracker” effect when needed for correction.
Eggbut Snaffle - Identical to the loose ring in all aspects except that the rings are not free to rotate through the ends of the mouth piece as they are on the loose ring. The Eggbut is preferred by horses whose lips get pinched by the rotating rings of the loose ring snaffle.
D ring Snaffle - Same jointed action as the Loose Ring and Eggbut, with the added effect where the Dees create pressure at the sides of the horses mouth, and this adds a little more control than with the ringed snaffles.
French Link Snaffle - Has a round edged figure eight shaped link in the middle of the mouth piece that creates a “double jointed” bit. The link in the mouth piece allows the bit to fit more naturally to the shape of the horses mouth, and is generally considered to be more mild than the single jointed bits.
Dr. Bristol - Looks deceivingly like the french link, but the link of the Dr. Bristol is a flat rectangle that is set at a slight angle relative to the rings at the ends of the mouth piece. The link of the Dr. Bristol acts against the tongue of the horse to create a bit with a more severe action than those of the other snaffles.
I can’t tell when a horse is working off his hind end. I’ll push and push with my legs and seat but really can’t tell the difference. I can tell when he’s on his forehand or feeling strung out but can’t feel the lift in his spine or him really using his hiney.
Always end up taking too much contact on my horse when riding in an arena. No wonder Thistle is so resistant. I have to keep reminding myself to soften more. Rode last night on a longer rein and she was much happier and more willing to bend and her halts were better too.
Always pass left shoulder to left shoulder, that much I know! :yes:
[QUOTE=Kementari;1999883]
Braid the tail (just the long part - starting at the bottom of the tail bone). Put an elastic (or your tie of choice) in the end. Insert tail into tail bag. Take one string, and bring it from the back of the tail through the top of the braid (as in, between the tail bone and the braid) to the front. In other words, you want one of the “hanks” of hair that begins the braid on the left of the string, and two on the right. Or vice versa. Tie to the opposite string. Repeat if you have two sets of strings.
That’s assuming you just have the single kind of bag. If you have the triple-tube kind, well, that’s a different story, and if anyone knows a relatively simple way of tying those in, I’m all ears! :winkgrin:
I have the special ability to convince myself that my horse is off/has heat in any leg you like if I look/feel hard enough. On the bright side, I have learned that it is best to go with my first impression, which ends up being right 99% of the time. And I got one of those laser temp thingies, so I can double check my phantom heat issues! :lol:[/QUOTE]
Thanks Kementari !!
Actually its supposed to be on the off side of the saddle, at least that is according to one of the British magazines I read (either Horse or Horse & Rider or Your Horse, can’t remember which). The article was on proper use of tack/equipment and it said keeping the elastic end on the near side means when you tighten the girth you are only stretching the elastic portion of it. By keeping the leather end on the near side it allows the entire girth to stretch when you tighten it, since its stretching from off to near side (the entire length of the girth) instead of just from the elastic end. Not sure if I described it correctly, nor do I know if this is true or not. Anyone care to comment?
Yep you are on the right track. The female bot fly lays the eggs on the horse’s coat- legs and such and the horse licks them which stimulates them to hatch. The botfly larvae enter the horse’s mouth and burrow into the cheeks and gums for about a month until they are swallowed. The second and third stage larvae eventually attatch themselves to the stomach lining and live off of blood and tissue and mature through the winter. Then they are pooped out and pupate in the soil for ~5-6 weeks when they then hatch into mature botflies in the spring and early summer.
FYI… there are more than one species of botflies. The common botfly lays its eggs on legs and such but other species may lay them on the face or other body parts. I just recently learned that.
No one should ever be embarassed to ask questions. No one knows everything nor can anyone remember everything that they have ever learned.
[QUOTE=BAC;2001139]
Actually its supposed to be on the off side of the saddle, at least that is according to one of the British magazines I read (either Horse or Horse & Rider or Your Horse, can’t remember which). The article was on proper use of tack/equipment and it said keeping the elastic end on the near side means when you tighten the girth you are only stretching the elastic portion of it. By keeping the leather end on the near side it allows the entire girth to stretch when you tighten it, since its stretching from off to near side (the entire length of the girth) instead of just from the elastic end. Not sure if I described it correctly, nor do I know if this is true or not. Anyone care to comment?[/QUOTE]
I do, I do!! :yes: I will give my PSA again- Its better for your saddle and the horse’s back to alternate which side you girth up on and which side you mount from. Only girthing up on the left side flattens the left panel of the saddle and can cause asymmetrical muscle development on the horse. Today girth up and mount on the left sidel, tomorrow girth up with the elastic side on the right and mount from the right side, etc. etc. etc. We no longer carry swords so this is a tradition that can be tossed out.
:lol: Me too. And sometimes I STILL get it wrong!!
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