THIS IS WHY!! THIS IS WHY!!! *rant*

You’re right, it is, because you just got sent on a week’s vacation.

When I say stop the sniping, it means stop NOW. It does not mean you get to post one more dig.

If the rest of you are capable of continuing the discussion in an adult manner, you’re welcome to do so.

[QUOTE=Fairview Horse Center;2639565]
I see registries and breeders as more of a marriage, not a dictatorship. EACH partner in a marriage has needs, and power to negotiate solutions. Changes need to be made according to the environment that are beneficial to BOTH parties. Breeders DO have power for change. Don’t believe for a minute the European Registries will not change to keep our business. Partnerships that one party rules all are not healthy or productive.[/QUOTE]

If could work as one unified voice, like a coalition, to demand a set of changes. For the euro WB registries it would be something like the N.A. Sporthorse Federation.

Although Daydream Believer, post 603, was mentioning a USA registry where all sporthorses would be in one system. WB or not. And include all/more sporthorse disciplines, not just the few euro WB ones. Which would help the buyer immensely, and also generate enough political power to hold annual and bi-annual sales and get the marketing done. In this case, it would “have” to be USEF, because they have the power needed to enforce rules.

So although I believe it’s each registry’s job to take care of their breeders sales and make sure breeders are successfully doing the necessary marketing, I see the benefit of Daydream Believer’s ideas.

sm, yes I agree. I believe the way British Breeding is set up is to be a unified voice and to unify the breeders together as a British bred product regardless of the horse being “registered” Hanoverian, dutch, or whatnot.

British Breeding also holds auctions, puts on shows & events, and does an inspection type event that grades the horses then identifies the top level ones, putting them to the attention of their top pro riders.

This is exactly the kind of far thinking we need here instead of all of our efforts being known as a german product or whatnot.

Tri, is British Breeding part of their National Federation? Didn’t I read somewhere that they had recently cut some ties with something, but I can’t remember what?

I agree with y’all that an umbrella organization is what’s needed. The AQHA has a number of federated organizations for the disciplines that compete using quarter horses, each one of which requires a very different type. Nonetheless, the AQHA does an incredible job with awards and publicity. A friend of mine gave me three months of their Journal, and I’m awestruck.

BTW, USEF is a federated organization of AQHA. :smiley:

I am not in England so I can only read and learn about their program but it sounds so interesting! It seems a program like it would solve a lot of the problems we have here.

From what I understand, British Breeding requires the horse’s papers to be “overstamped” with British Breeding. The registries that participate have to obtain something like a certification to operate under their umbrella. No certification, no participation.

I did not know that the USEF is a federated org of the AQHA! How about that!

[QUOTE=vineyridge;2640379]

BTW, USEF is a federated organization of AQHA. :D[/QUOTE]

Um, no it is not. USEF is what was once known as the American Horse Shows Association. Quarter Horses once showed under that umbrella, but split off in the 1970’s, I believe, to do their own thing.

The hisory of ASHA/USEF http://www.usef.org/contentpage2.aspx?id=history The organization had been in exhistance for over 20 years before the AQHA was formed.

Sorry my attempt at humor fell so flat. In the AQHA Journal, the USEF is listed as an affiliate. I thought that was full of hubris, to say the least, and thought you guys would see the humor in it. :winkgrin:

I got it Viney! :lol:

Oh! Geesh! Ha ha.

Hah! Although, numbers wise, I suppose it kinda should be. AQHA membership dwarfs USEF, doesn’t it?

over 3 million quarter horses registered in 2006.
See page 2 bottom of first column for international tally. Also the breakdown in all countries
http://www.aqha.com/association/pdf/annualreport_horses.pdf

Suprisingly: 28,500 in GERMANY.

Actually not so surprising. A German friend of mine once told me that they love QHs there and doing the cowboy thing. A lot of them grew up on John Wayne movies.

[QUOTE=sm;2641408]
over 3 million horses registered in 2006.
See page 2 bottom of first column for international tally. Also the breakdown in all countries
http://www.aqha.com/association/pdf/annualreport_horses.pdf

Suprisingly: 28,500 in GERMANY.[/QUOTE]

Um, not 3 million registered in 1 year, you are interpretting the information completely incorrectly. The 3 million number is the estimated number of living Quarter Horses. New registrations is 165,000. :uhoh:

the people registered in 2006 are about 350,000 internationally.
http://www.aqha.com/association/pdf/annualreport_membership.pdf

I thought I saw over 36,000 breeders but I can’t find a number one that now, so I may be wrong…

14,918 QH owners in GERMANY!!!

That’s a North American registry for you, same geographic problems as everyone else, way to go :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=Renae;2641429]
Um, not 3 million registered in 1 year, you are interpretting the information completely incorrectly. The 3 million number is the estimated number of living Quarter Horses. New registrations is 165,000. :uhoh:[/QUOTE]

I didn’t mean to imply in ONE year, I wrote in 2006. As in, on record in 2006. Same regarding PEOPLE statistics. I don’t really care who registered in 2000 or 2005 or whenever, it doesn’t address OVERALL MEMBERSHIP NUMBERS - see post 645 question.

oh please educate yourself.
Look up the army equitation school in ireland. That’s what they recognize as a ISH - not any quarter horse wannabe.

[QUOTE=forthehorse;7976588]
oh please educate yourself.
Look up the army equitation school in ireland. That’s what they recognize as a ISH - not any quarter horse wannabe.[/QUOTE]

Maybe they did back in 2007.