Thought I would never change barns

The “short” version is that I met the BO in 11/1999 when she was leasing a barn across the road from my condo. The plan was to build and barn and indoor and move to her new farm when the building was completed. She needed volunteers for the therapy program. It was winter in Maine and I think she lost most of them because there wasn’t an indoor. I signed on, helped out on a lot of things including getting the new building underway. She typically has 40-50 horses, boarders and her lesson horses. We got to be very close friends and she helped me find my perfect horse.

Things started going downhill a couple of years ago. Occasional nasty comments including find a new barn. It got worse. Horse and I are getting old. He wasn’t getting enough hay and lost weight going into winter for several years. His ribs were obvious. BO wouldn’t admit it. He needed to move to a quieter environment. She wouldn’t give him a paddock. She needed them for winter boarders. Hmmmm. They go through deep disgusting muck to get to the gate. It was getting so bad he had trouble pulling his arthritic left leg up to take a step. Then persistent lameness developed. A huge nasty black gelding joined the herd in July and was chasing everyone all over for no reason. Chased my horse off the waterer twice in 5 minutes. Explosions with groups galloping away from round bales. At 26 he wasn’t up to it. Supposedly there was a plan to move “Nasty” to a different turnout. I was looking for a new barn, but he doesn’t do stalls and I couldn’t find a shed with a paddock.

The kicker was when he started showing some reluctance to leave the barn after he finished his grain. Nothing had changed. No paddock and he was afraid of the nasty black gelding. He needed a lot of coaxing to walk to the turnout. Then he started resisting going through the gate. I got his message and felt so guilty. He was sound at W/T in September. Now he was lame on the left front, 4/5. He apparently slipped in the muck, maybe fell, and no one could get on him for 10 days.

I wasn’t having much luck on a move despite help from the farrier and our retired vet . We’re good friends after 20 years. The vet suggested a barn, very quiet, 15 minutes from the house. They don’t advertise. I put the move together in 3 days. It all came together including the woman with the trailer showing up in the parking lot. I emailed the BO not knowing she was on vacation in Florida. “Great” was the response to my email along with her assumption I owed $383 for the rest of the 30 days notice. Pay up, then accrue interest, then to collections, then to small claims court. I pulled him out for his overall health and condition. His new vet came a couple of days later, confirmed the lameness, and he went on Adequan.

We are in heaven. Everyone tells me I more relaxed. When we arrived the new BO and the vet both said he needed to be moved before he declined any more. Two and one-half weeks later his ribs have disappeared. He has a gigantic pile of hay in his stall. It took a couple of days to adjust to the building after 20 years outside. He has a back door to a large run-out. An opening in the stall grill so he can watch the activity. Everyone is commenting about his personality emerging. They all tell me little things each day. The spark in his eyes has reappeared. BO left him and their aging mare in the indoor. Best friends in 5 minutes. He managed to open the gate and headed down the aisleway. First time ever. He’s a sabino Paint and adds some pazazz to the overabundance of solid brown horses in various sizes.

Board sounds expensive ($650) but they do everything. I don’t have to worry. Blanket changes when they need them. Do I want to blanket him before I leave, if not they will do it. Two tasty meals of goopy grain with timothy pellets added, plus a late snack when the barn is checked. He loves it. I love it. Beautiful facility. Impeccably clean.

What impresses me is how much time and personal attention the BO invests in every horse. They get what they need. She changed his turnout buddies. He hasn’t looked this good in a while. I’m worried about the knee, but he is receiving the best care.

So the old BO? I have to finish my 2nd email that clarifies that I moved him because she would not provide adequate care. I think there is a bailment issue for the lameness and inadequate feed. I can’t get myself to pay her and forget it. It lets her off the hook.

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Your relief is palpable and it’s lovely that you and your good old horse have landed in a first-rate barn. What a wonderful ending!

I’d pay off the $383 and not look back.

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Same as above. Grit your teeth, pay it, sit and whine about it for 5 minutes, then never again.

Glad you found a nice place for your old man!

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Pay to keep her away and enjoy your new life. Poor care always catches up with boarding barns. She is shorting horses because she is spending elsewhere. Once her reputation goes, there’s no getting it back.

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Does it though? I guess eventually. I’ve seen so many just have a revolving door of boarders who come in, figure it out, and leave. While a few inexperienced owners stay on, not knowing that their horse is getting substandard care, or that the barn is poorly managed.

OP this is why I hate money. She could have handled this, as an equine pro and your friend, ages ago simply by saying, “I cannot provide the care your horse needs at this stage in his life. I would like to help you find a barn that offers more individualized care.” Most oldies don’t do well in a herd turnout or living out in a shed and if she couldn’t provide the upgrades it’s not that hard to tell someone that. The only thing I can think is that she wanted your check. It IS standard practice to pay the 30 days when you leave, BUT it depends on what your contract states. I’m not clear from your post how far along you are from moving him, but it very well might be easier to just pay her. But again, totally depends on the contract. If there is no contract… Well, that’s on her.

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I also think you should just go ahead and pay her. I understand that you don’t want to seem like you’re agreeing with her or caving into her, or even suggesting that the care she provided was adequate.

But ultimately that amount of money will give you peace of mind, and you can just forget about her. It’s too bad that the relationship went sour, but it happens. Best just to move on.

And congratulations on finding such an amazing place for your horse!

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I entirely agree with : pay her, and never look back. She’s robbed you of so much happiness already…now that you have it back why let her take a moment away from it!? Insist on a signed ‘paid in full’ from her so she can’t come back at you.

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Ah, typical wisdom from my fellow COTHers. :grinning:

She actually is, or maybe was, one of the best BOs in the area, and was widely known. When we went to the “Buck” movie at least half the audience knew her. She really knows horses (3rd generation in family) and took good care of them. She built a 120x200’ steel building for the barn and indoor. My initials are in the concrete footing. It’s looking run down and shabby. Rumblings from other long-term boarders are that she’s an absent landlord, her heart isn’t in it anymore, she will sell but it isn’t listed. Her behaviors and attitude have shifted so drastically that she doesn’t seem like the same person. Maybe that’s why this hurts and our friendship is gone.

Yeah, I’ll probably pay her, but I don’t think I’ll be able to avoid taking at least one shot at her. It’s one thing to go after me, another to turn her back on my horse. He has done a lot for her and her regular and therapy lesson programs. I’ll be clever, of course. I still believe in manners.

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Congrats on finding a great new place for you and your horse.

Not a lawyer so…

If you have a written contract that states that you must give 30 days notice then you are legally obligated to pay .

The BO does have a bailment to provide adequate care for your horse. but it is up to you to legally prove that the BO did not.

You can get into it legally with her. It is up to you to decide whether it worth the consequences .

Personally, if you are legally obligated then I would pay the BO and be done. She did provide what was stipulated. You could pay her a sum somewhat less and state in writing why you think you dont owe her anymore .

I believe you got less than you paid for, but it is very difficult to prove legally.

I’d pay her and put it all in the past. You are in a great place now. Enjoy it.

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Such a sad thing when somewhere you’ve been forever goes downhill. I’m glad you did the right thing and got your old boy to a much better place.

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True story. I boarded for a very short time at a barn I thought, although not the best, would be workable. They have a large indoor arena, hay seemed to be of good quality, and other things. Then I started hearing things that my horse and another boarder’s horse were left out in the pasture until 9 PM after all the other horses had been inside eating for the last 2 hours, that my stall wasn’t being cleaned, tack (not mine) going missing, horses being abused (see my previous thread about Mexican Dancing horses). The final straw came when the cops had to be called because the BO went postal on a boarder who was moving out (the one whose tack was stolen). I was there a total of 3 weeks and had enough. I packed up all my stuff, loaded my horse, and sent the BO a text that we were out. I ended up boarding a horse at my home who was also a refugee from the “Barn of Horror” as I dubbed it.

Glad you are out and your horse is back to his normal self. Sounds like the previous BO was just burnt out and doesn’t want to do this anymore.

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I get your principle, but I guess I agree. Pay her and be done. Done, done, done.

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Yes, I think some BOs who burn out find it easier to let things slide and slowly drive people away than to proactively plan to shut down and move onto something else. Especially if they’ve been doing it forever and don’t have a good backup plan. Glad you got out, OP! I’d pay up too FWIW.

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Given that you have accepted the problems for several years I don’t think you have any basis for a lack of care complaint requiring a move without paying through the notice period.

I am glad that the new place is making you happy. Moving barns after a long time can be really difficult, but the relief afterwards is worth it. Let the friendship go and enjoy your horse!! :slight_smile:

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I agree, pay her. Chances are you will end up in court and will cost you more to take the time to defend your case.

Your newfound relaxation and happiness is worth the cost.

Now, you can blast social media of how wonderful your old guy looks since the move?

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Pay her so everyone knows who the asshole is.

Your post broke my heart. I’m glad your horse is safe.

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Wow, trainer! When she and DH were carrying on years ago she told me regularly that he’s an asshole. When she said they were getting married I asked her about that. She said he is an asshole but she loved him and they were getting married.

What do you wanna bet it rubbed off?!?!?!??! :grin:

i’d pay her. By not paying you will be prolonging the aggravation, because she will probably pursue you for payment, at least for a while. You will constantly be re-feeling the wound. Think of it as buying peace of mind.

Good for you! I hope you get some good sleep knowing that your horse is safe and happy where he is. It’s crazy the mental toll barn drama can take on you. Family drama, work drama, and friend drama all sucks too but for some reason whenever it’s barn drama it makes me sick and really gets to me. I too left a crazy toxic barn drama situation around a year and a half ago now and I’m SO happy at the barn I’m at now and the people/ horses I’m with. I went from drama literally all the time to zero drama ever since I moved.

If I were you, if you signed a contract, I’d just pay it. I seriously thought about going after my former BO for vet bills from his dog attacking my horse, but in the end it just wasn’t worth it the stress of it all.

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More thoughts. I’ll whine later.

I’ll pay her, but what I would really like to do is go after a bailment. I’ll probably stick a few comments in. Like my vet bills versus her 30 day notice. Pretty much everything is in her emails. He hasn’t been ridden in at least 6 weeks. He was lame when we moved and is still lame 3 weeks later. The vet verified that for me. However, I can’t ask her to get involved because it would destroy a big piece of her business.

The state motto these days is “Maine. The way life should be.” Our new BO got him back to good health in 2-1/2 weeks. I can’t feel his ribs. More than enough hay. He loves his two goopy mushy meals and a late evening snack when they do the check. He looks terrific and everyone loves him. He gives off this aura that sets him apart. The BO put him in the indoor with her aging mare. Instant buddies. I wasn’t there. BO says I can’t leave him unless I keep an eye on him. He figured out how to open the gate, how we don’t know. He was strolling down the aisleway. Success on his first effort.

It’s a small, quiet barn, 20 stalls and they don’t advertise. Most of the boarders are women who get along fine. What impresses me most is the BO. Her husband is a commercial pilot. He hops on his tractor when he gets home. She is in the thick of things along with her staff. She invests a lot of effort into each horse’s specific plan of care. He was worse than I thought. He was going downhill and I think he was genuinely depressed when we moved. She tracks his hay so I can’t add any. They told me they blanket him if I leave early. Each horse gets a separate labeled bucket for each feeding. The recipes are on a white board. She told me where he hangs out and observes the activity.

This is the way life should be. I wish every horse could have such a caring BO. Their elderly mare is in her mid-20s. He is 26. His day will come, the mare’s also, but I know he is getting the best care I could ask for.

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