That’s it? Those are the magical pillars?
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That. Is. It.
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What happens if a horse loses their balance learning forward or bulging a shoulder in pillar 3? What’s the correction?
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Her super secret “nerve release,” of course!
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Start over
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These fake “practitioners” are now glomming onto legitimate experts and masters. Fawning over them. It’s such BS. In the masterclass CLL
Put a halt to anyone posting anything from true masters. Specifically Manolo Mendez and Gerd Heuschmann. Because “her” page and “her” “new” teaching. Where was she this past October? Sitting in an audit chair in Texas. Watching the true master, Manolo, teach. It makes my skin crawl. From what I understand other people had the creeps from her too.
These screen shots were taken from Dr Steven Peters’ page. On his post about “fake” neuro science. Remember? CLL claimed to be a neuropsychologist. Also University of Hawaii in Hilo has no record of her graduating at all. Or even attending.
But. According to Ms Vonda I am the one who “needs help”.
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I believe it was a Facebook group of kissing spine, But I saw one of the BTMM instructors basically diagnosing a horse with the C6/C7 malformation in the neck x-rays. I found this pretty curious because when we took x-rays of my horse’s neck, my own vet said while she didn’t see anything glaring, She personally would not comment on neck x-rays it is not her specialty and would only send it off to CSU to the internal medicine specialist that deals with a lot of neck stuff before clearing him of anything.
So it’s wild to me that people that aren’t even vets would comment on neck x-rays when they are known to be complicated to read.
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I saw a video of pillar 1, 2 and 3 while mounted on Facebook.
I really don’t get it. This is all such basic stuff to me and common sense, but with a lot more words and mystery around it.
I don’t see it being harmful though. Just extremely basic stuff. And expensive.
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[Edit] enough people and you too can buy a big fancy farm! (I’m only sort of being sarcastic)
https://www.lazarissporthorses.com/
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Every horse in our training program begins in a 5 days/week full training program or 7 days/week rehabilitation program priced at $3,000 monthly for training and $4,000 monthly for rehabilitation,
Kaching!
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Gee, I wonder what percentage of incoming horses require at least a month of the pricier rehabilitation to address things like, say, birth trauma?
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Only a month? Birth trauma is a big thing. It takes tiiiiime to get over!
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If I were, to say, sign up for 3 months of Birth Trauma Rehab, do I get some sort of perk? Like maybe a set of coordinating bangle bracelets?
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Is anyone else,watching these ecvm support groups and kind of astounded at the people putting their horses down because the animal communicators said so? Then every one rationalizing it? That might top thw…tough race now.
No, but at least the animal communicators are not leading them to prolonged hocus pocus and potential suffering and giant loss of funds on “”" treatments""" that only they can perform.
Not really the same thing at all. And as always, better too soon than one moment too late.
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Training
You understand the value of a long-term vision for your horse’s development, and you want something more than the usual quick-fix 30 day program…
…You want support in developing a partner for life.
At Lazaris Sport Horses, we provide dedicated care tailored to each horse’s unique journey. Our commitment starts at a minimum of 3 months, ensuring ample time for comprehensive, individualize training.
OUR PROGRAM
Every horse in our training program begins in a 5 days/week full training program or 7 days/week rehabilitation program priced at $3,000 monthly for training and $4,000 monthly for rehabilitation,
The first month is dedicated to full-time intensive training or rehabilitation sessions. Beyond this period, our approach adapts to the horse’s needs, potentially scaling down to 2-3 sessions per week with consideration of what supports the horse as well as the owner’s budget.
Our program can be adapted for a focus on performance, connection, rehabilitation, or a combination of all. Emotional regulation and support of a healthy nervous system are at the heart of each and every individualized program.
Owners receive a training journal with photos and videos documenting the horse’s progress.
Showing in competitions or clinics may be arranged based on trainers availability.
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Proof of vaccinations and health certification
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Horses must be started and have basic ground manners*
Horses cannot be exhibiting dangerous behaviors to be admitted to the performance training program (exceptions may made for our rehabilitation program)
Horses must be sound unless enrolling specifically in rehabilitation "
Maybe she will boot you out when her nerve release effs a horse up, because then they won’t be sound?
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Did I miss where she actually has demonstrated that she can train a horse to do, well, any kind of performance career in any discipline?
It seems to me like everything she comes in contact with is one of those perpetual “rehab projects” … horses that are always “rehabbing” from some sort of chronic problem or conformational flaw and are again and again proclaimed to be getting so much better and stronger, but never seem to be “cured” enough to do anything more than maybe a little walk/trot flat work if they’re even ridden at all, even after months/years of supposed “rehabbing.”
I guess she did have that one horse on her insta a couple years ago that she was riding for someone and jumping some tiny fences with, but I didn’t see anywhere that she did anything with that horse that your average local lower level trainer couldn’t do for a lot less money.
Certainly not what I’d look for if I was spending $$$$ for a trainer. I’d want someone with a track record in my discipline of choice, horses actively doing the job I want mine to do, and horses that stay sound and are in their program long term.
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Naming your business “xxx Sport Horses” implies that you or your horses compete in some sort of horse sport. AFAIK she hasn’t been to any horse shows in recent decades aside from that Andalusian world show where she “wasn’t expecting to ride because she was there as a bodyworker but got on [sans helmet] to help a client”
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I just saw the new business stuff – beautiful farm – if I wanted a Sport Horse trainer, I’d look at, oh, I don’t know, maybe someone who has experience training and riding sport horses in competition who can talk about their training methods and has evidence of skills? He’s retired now, but Paul Cronin, who headed the Sweet Briar riding program, comes to mind (his book Schooling and Riding the Sport Horse is excellent). As for previous comments on the head lowering, there are good and bad ways to do that, for sure – in classical dressage it’s called “ramener”, def. not new and serves a purpose (step 1 to asking the horse to shift weight, bend, etc.). Every single thing has been done for centuries, good and bad. Bent Branderup explains the history and theory of classical training and shows how to apply it with various kinds of horses, and also has evidence of the results. He even does live weekend clinics a few times a year for a very reasonable fee. And feels no need to pretend he’s invented anything new or magical. Just one example. Josepha Guillaume is another, her book is easy to follow. Since I have no one local to work with that does things how I want them, the few really good ones who share their work online have been a godsend. Had to wade through a lot of crap though to get there. https://www.wehorse.com/en/equestrian-connection-podcast/josepha-guillaume So I’m not even sure what CLL means by “sport horse” – I always take that to be hunter/jumper.
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Wait. So she’s the trainer?
What, exactly, is her specialty? Just general training and witchery?
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