Thoughts on "The Traveling Horse Witch?"

I got curious and read her FB page. Came across this:

I wonder what this is about? I don’t know any professionals or serious competitors that fire their horse’s body workers for knowing how to fix them and the root of their problem.

I also read on TTHW’s FB that she believes all misbehavior comes from a physically compromised horse. I have some young colts for her to meet.

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Thinking more. Where has common sense gone? Compare horse balance to human balance and posture. The human center of gravity is obviously very different than the horse. But the difference between individuals genders or just the same person walking or riding correctly versus not correctly, is minute. Think about how much changes when you lift your ribcage and stand up straight. It’s like half an inch movement.

I mean no entity shifts it’s balance by 3 feet. Or even a foot. All horses are within a very narrow range. I know what it feels like to have my horse’s back lift, it’s a great feeling but very subtle. I also know how to get a horse to lift her sternum on the ground. Again very subtle.

But there’s just no reason to say center of gravity is in the poll and you move it back to the withers. That makes no sense at all. The droopiest old downhill dude string or lesson horse is only fractionally further foreward than the upper level dressage horse.

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Im sure without those questions you can find some way to keep the drama going. That’s your forte is it not? The EDH thread got bumped and lo and behold there you were broadcasting her profession. Coths own tabloid!

Who are you addressing? And what is the EDH thread?

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I’m addressing scribbler who has a habit of demonizing people that don’t live up to her standards. I just slogged through a thread where she tries to make a big deal about the poster being a porn star because thats a priority over
horses welfare. She also randomly finds people online and posts about them here. When the thread dies down she finds something she thinks is inflammatory to bring it back up.

Bored human.

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Can you share the thread please? Would be interested to read the other thread to decide for myself, thanks.

Well, whenever we get celebrities posting on here it’s interesting. I thought it was kind of cool Stormy Daniels turned up. I did ask “is this who I think it is?” But I never said anything bad about her. She did a great job defending herself against a shady trainer. And a shady client too.

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@anon29046226
Nevermind I found it, will have to respectfully disagree on your comments about Scribbler, I don’t know who Scribbler is, but I do find his or her insights to be very helpful and not inflammatory at all.

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Does “The Traveling Horse Witch” have her own barn or teaching facility, or does she just travel to other peoples homes/barns?

I am reminded of the guy who touted himself as “The Traveling Trainer”. “Traveling”, in that case, meant I-don’t -have -a barn -and I-don’t own-a-horse-I have no credentials-but-I-am -a-traveling-trainer- please- pay- me- to- have- a- vacation- at- your- home- barn.
No, sorry, proper credentials are required, period and stolen photos of other peoples barns will be (and were) noticed and called out.

Obviously, there are some very good horse people that give clinics, they come to you and don’t often teach at their private stables, however they do have horses and stables. They are the very accomplished, well known people.

When the “traveling horse witches”, or “maestros” , are “traveling” as they advertise themselves, travel because they don’t have their own facilities, it’s a Big Red Flag.

If you are considering paying anyone certainly for internet instruction or even for a clinic, do make sure they have students with a good reputation and a verifiable record and that the “trainer” actually owns (or is known for their horses in the past) horses that are healthy and well schooled, and that they have them at their training facility or their home.

Pretty photos of your Vulcan mind meld with a horse, while wearing a dress, shown on the internet doesn’t get it.

I think most of us remember the old “Rev” living illegally in some guy’s basement and ripping off aspiring dressage riders. He was horrible and easily outed, but the greedy goes on and apparently people are getting better at ripping off people who are trying to do their best for their horses.

You owe it to yourself and your horse to be better than this. Due diligence, do it.

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Trainer she was fired from has some serious short-comings and a lot of the horse issues were caused by incorrect riding. Easier to just get rid of horse and have client buy a new one (and collect commission involved).

Said trainer was and still is very involved in MLM, I’d wager that was how CLL was introduced to the hun-ery.

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“But, bodies don’t lie, and horses are my only Masters” - that’s a line right out of Rev Allan Buck’s playbook - he also can’t explain WHY and threatens you with legal action should you dare to ask.

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Ah, jeeze, the mail order Rev. He can threaten a lawsuit all he wants. The courts are sick and tired of him and I doubt he would dare to file another frivolous lawsuit.

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Yep, he threatened to sue me once for sharing the video that HE uploaded publicly to YouTube of him tormenting that grey horse, and I said “okay, do it”. Never heard from him again.

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This has nothing to do with either side of the discussion…
I can not be the only one who just reads the comments and frequently does not note who the poster is.
On this new (laugh, not really new anymore) format, it is easier to see the posters name as you read but…

In other words, I do not find it weird that someone reads and might not know exactly who said what.

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I’m not defending her lol I’m defending the people who have tried her services that everyone on here seems to think they’re better and smarter than, when I actually don’t think it’s that unreasonable to want to learn more about some simple groundwork exercises. And no I don’t think paying money for some groundwork is AS BAD as putting cruel abusive bits in your horse’s mouth or forcing them into a frame with gadgets so I’m gonna disagree with you right back.

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My post doesn’t say anything at all about the people on here automatically condoning the use of bits whips and gadgets. I’m saying that the posters on here are doing a lot of hand wringing over something that’s truly not that serious. I think y’all could be a little more understanding of why others might be curious to look into something like this. There’s a lot of willful misunderstanding going on.

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It’s implied with the holier than thou attitude that you guys are bringing to this discussion lol

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I honestly have no idea about the nerve release stuff. That’s not part of the masterclass group but it is marketed there. FWIW she said she is prioritizing veterinarians and licensed bodyworkers in her “admissions” for that. Interesting— she should probably let vets audit for free. I will say, Masterson felt very “woo” to me too but I was absolutely stumped with my horse and it made a huge difference for her. Im keeping an open mind but Im not interested in that product until I can actual see what it is. It’s one thing to pay to join an online group and watch some videos. Another to actually let someone work on your horse’s body. I came to thread to share my own experience.

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The saddles were sold a year ago, when I left my toxic training barn. Talk about unethical—taking a sponsorship from a brand and encouraging your clients to use it without knowing anything about how the saddle is designed. And no, I don’t think they are suitably designed for most horses. Unless your horse has NO withers, I would highly recommend steering clear of the brand. The short flexible tree point thing is a gimmick that cuts costs. The saddles appear to “fit” because the tree points are basically non existent and flexible—which means the riders weight is being directed onto the traps, and it shouldn’t be. Have talked to a number of highly qualified, independent fitters and saddlers about this. This is a whole different thread but man it gets me extremely hot to talk about.

Isn’t that called ‘dressage?’ Or ‘self-carriage?’ Radical stuff.

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