Thoughts on "The Traveling Horse Witch?"

Considering the countless lies she has been caught in, I think it’s a given she is lying about this too

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Glorifying the act of being such an amazing genius for stumbling upon a few relatively simple self-evident truths of basic horsemanship.

Therefore, she can cure all ailments that no one else can remedy because she is the only magnificent one who did not find these self-evident truths in books, but rather, discovered a few simple party tricks for herself. So magickal, so brilliant. No one else can match her level of brilliance. You must worship her ever unique genius or you will be labeled a bully too.

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“Every now and then, you may come across someone who thinks they know more about a topic than others, when they actually have little to no background to support that belief. If so, you may have encountered the Dunning-Kruger effect. It’s when underperformers grossly overestimate their ability to do something.”

And Google for the win on that little Dunning-Kruger blurb :crazy_face:

As far as ignorance equaling inspiration… Unfortunately, we live in an age where arrogance is misconceived for wisdom.

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She does have veterinarians that are subscribers. I know at least one and was told she is very welcoming to the vets on the group and there are a few, but not that many. Perhaps that is what she means?

From what I have heard, her methods are very similar to what Peggy Cummings teaches. With bits that might have come from others as well (T-Touch, Mastersons etc). There doesn’t seem to be much that is truly unique in her approach, although she is secretive about certain things, so can’t assess those.

A lot of what she says is good information, but again not really unique. She is a master at marketing. A friend of mine has been talking about “thoracic sling” issues for decades, but never got any traction, while this person has made it out to be a new thing she discovered and turned it into the latest buzz words. It really all goes back to topline development and self carriage and those things go back thousands of years.

It certainly rubs me the wrong way that she seems to present herself as someone who has discovered something nobody else is doing and that only she can do. I find this doubtful. There are a few others like her that are building their followings. One in particular will only train people they personally deem worthy of training and claims that nobody else can do what they do. This kind of smugness is off-putting to me and most often unfounded.

I can’t comment on the drama side, but after seeing some of the posts here, it appears she has done some misleading advertising.

I wasn’t going to jump in here, but thought I’d just throw out a few things.

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I don’t disagree with any of those points, they’re all valid observations.

When I said she has been caught lying about countless things, I was referencing the false credential claims and the like.

As far as “training vets,” likely it’s an exaggeration of sorts.

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I was thinking that having vets in her group is “teaching vets”. so yeah, exaggeration, but not completely false…

The false credential thing is concerning

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I do know when the MasterClass first started, she had invited numerous professionals (any who would give her the time of day) free of charge, and were given particular priority to the VIP treatment. Unless they debated of course… Tami Elkayam, a popular bodyworker, was one who was in the group early on, that ended abruptly… followed by some mean spirited comments directed at Tami from acolytes on other public pages in the following months from what I recall.

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Not sure why, but I’ll blame it on the late hour and post MY honest letter. It reads a little different than that one…

I have taken a course of equine rehabilitation (and been certified)

I have studied from some masters of classical dressage and biomechanics

I read the classical literature

I have a bookshelf full of books on equine exercises (and sports medicine, acupuncture, spinal manipulation, rehab, massage and other forms of body work, connected riding…)

My work may be similar or may differ from other practitioners, but I’ll tell you how and why. For 5 decades I have studied the horse and in that time I have had many mentors. What I have to teach you is a compilation of what I have learned on my own and from many of the greats.

I have never followed a set school of thought but kept my mind open to what others might teach me and what the horses tell me when I work on them. If you want to know what’s different between what I do and those who specialize in the dressage arena, just ask, We can have a discussion. I don’t know everything and what I know I will share with you. Nothing I do is completely unique, but I might have a unique perspective on a particular issue.

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Because it’s way too much work to actually have to learn stuff and be accurate. Why go through all that schooling and hard work when you can make stuff up and fool people…and charge them exorbitant amounts of money for snake oil?

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She calls herself The Creator…capitalized…sounds a bit God-like, no?

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Just have to say that what I’ve seen of recent WS approaches are pretty enlightened and science-based. He’s talking about recognizing the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system responses, applying CAT and CAT-H to interacting with stressed horses, learning to recognize stress signals in worried or shut down horses (known in animal behavior science circles as “calming signals” and much researched in dogs and horses) developing real trust before proceeding with training, took the time to learn some positive reinforcement from one of the best in the field, and basically not being a jerk to your horse. Nothing “woo” about that, it’s just common sense and good practice. In his quest to be a better person, he may have misjudged THW, but then so did a LOT of people. I’m way more concerned about the veterinarians who seem to be following her.

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Is this for real? Seriously? “The Creator”

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One would think that rather than trying to make COTH go away and shut down the disclosure and discourse, she would want to join and enlighten us and show us the way. Right?

Oops…except this forum is free so she couldn’t charge, and she is more about money than horses.

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Looks like SEO is what she’s attempting to do, she has now added THW to her new website. Nothing wrong with SEO, but why lie about it?

Did she give herself a promotion? Is being God-like a step up from being a witch? :thinking:

Let me check to see if I had either God or Creator on my bingo card…

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Ummm…

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She really has no clue about how the internet “works”. I hope the fervent disciples can see through that bizarre commentary - it would raise some red flags for me. It always seems to be those who are not 100% what they claim to be who cry the loudest that those who have questions are “bullies” - this is a page out of NP’s textbook of how to dupe friends and manipulate people.

I suppose all of us here in her area (before moving) who asked questions and had concerns were merely ignorant bullies. Ditto for the vets who dealt with horses that did not benefit from the magical woo while being told by besotted owners that said horse was treated by CLL. Because despite what was right in front of their eyes, CLL told them the horse was “cured” - so therefore it was.

Magically.

Just.

Like.

That.

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wow.

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I wouldn’t be too surprised if one or two drank the koolaid.
I’ve met a few “colleagues” who make me wonder at times.

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I wonder which equine souls bore the brunt of her self-study that included “so many errors”?

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