So you are a lawyer warning us about libel but calling her bsc and a poop show?
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What can I say, when I see people standing on the tracks I like to warn them. I’d like a good discussion and not one that veers into legal jeopardy.
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We have a long long history of piecing together scams and frauds and BSC trainers. In general anonymous chat forums do not get sued for this kind of stuff. Way worse is out there all over the internet.
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Yes. See those are subjective assessments of the culture around this thing—opinions. I did not call her a liar or a fraud, which are objective claims that could get you in trouble unless you can back it up.
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Oh I think there has been ample evidence of her lying about her credentials.
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How on earth were you part of the class and you don’t know if any of it has any scientific basis? I’m just amazed that a “veterinary” technique could be taught without explaining the science behind it.
Maybe it’s voodoo instead.
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The class isn’t about the bodywork. As I said before. The class is about groundwork. Anyone can teach that, and what she is teaching is very basic.
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After learning about this discussion in a FB group, I’ve been following this thread with great interest. I wanted to share some info based on some of the conversation here:
- As per her FB page, Celeste claims to have obtained her neuropsychology degree from the University of Hawaii - Hilo. However, UH does not appear to offer a neuropsychology program: https://hilo.hawaii.edu/degrees/
Others in the thread have mentioned this would be a doctorate program, so I’m not sure if it would be listed under their regular degree programs, but I can’t find any mention of it on their website. Has anyone found anything different?
- She also appears to holds a valid license for both large animal and human massage in WA, but they’re listed under her maiden name Yantis. (I can’t figure out how to share a screenshot, but hopefully the link works)
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Did she change the “BS in animal science”? Neuropsych is not an undergraduate degree. To become a “neuropsychologist” you must have a bachelors, masters and doctorate in general psychology. Then you choose (maybe starting with your masters program) to specialize in cognition, learning and memory, brain trauma, behavioral science, etc. you produce a thesis, a dissertation, complete an internship in your chosen field (neuropsychology: the study of the brain and behavior) and finally, complete your post doctoral studies. It is a LONG process. Years. Then you apply for a license to practice in your state. Dr Steven Peters is a neuropsychologist. He wrote “Evidence Based Horsemanship.” My conjecture. My OPINION. Is that TTW mistakenly conflated neuropsychology with neurology. Because her claim to fame is the treatment of constricted nerves by manipulation. NOT the study of the brain chemicals and structure on behavior. How do I know any of this? Because I actually have a degree in psych. A bachelor’s. My daughter has her doctorate. In psych. I know what it takes. TTW does not have a “degree in neuropsychology.” And she claimed ONLY on her FB business page to have a degree in “animal science.” However. A background check turned up no degree of any kind. 
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One might have more luck with the Massage board. She claims to be licensed and this seems to be what she does for the most part. WA does have a licensing program for animals so if she is doing the work with no license, that’s an issue for the massage board.
The vet board will only be interested if she is diagnosing or treating. If she can claim she is sticking to body work, they have no recourse.
(edited to add: I see from the above post someone did find her license under her previous name, so she appears to be licensed in massage. As long as she does not diagnose and treat, she’s fine. I see the post below talking about nerve impingement and it’s possible they might consider this a diagnosis, but I think it could fall under body work as well. It’s a funny line.)
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That would depend directly on the language she is using. I’d say claims of “nerve impingement” would qualify as a diagnosis.
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Ah! I was unaware of what her maiden name was, so just searched what she went by on social media/her web page. I can admit when I am wrong - I apologize for saying she was lying about having massage licensing in Washington.
See how easy that was?
I still think there are plenty of other unresolved claims 
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Thank you.
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I’m genuinely happy to see a massage therapist certification for large animals.
Still confused about many other things.
Oh, well.
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Right, my point being I see no indication on the UH-Hilo website that a person could even pursue a neuropsychology doctorate at that particular school, unless that info is located elsewhere on the site.
From my understanding the degree she did obtain there was a major in Animal Science (originally intended as a “pre vet” undergrad) with minor in Psychology. This is based on her self-reporting in the podcasts I’ve listened to, but I’d have to re-listen to confirm as it wasn’t my focus as the time. However, I don’t see Animal Science listed under the UH-Hilo degree programs either, so I’m not sure if it would be called something else or what.
I’m still unsure what to make of all of this - and I certainly have no dog in this fight - I just wanted to share what I’d learned with other forum members.
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It’s either nerve impingement or birth trauma, which are fuzzy… because it’s near impossible to prove or disprove.
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I believe Karen did search and her license was expired for over 2 years at the time she was questioned about it. THW then posted a shame filled post of rolling her eyes claiming she just paid $600 in yearly fees… the timeline of events would suggest she let it lapse, and then when she was questioned about it, she rushed out to renew her license.
I have zero qualms about admitting when I am wrong as well, but I also find that timelines are very important to keep clear when assessing a situation or behavior. THW could have easily said “oops! I got busy and forgot to renew this year, I had a lot going on, working on renewing that now, thanks for pointing it out.” Instead, she chose to turn it into a shame and blame major drama, and doxxed Karen Duplantis. Which is wrong.
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It was her LLC that was dissolved by the state for non payment. Twice. She JUST reinstated.
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Thank you for the clarification, sorry I had remembered it incorrectly. Were you able to locate her license under her other last name Yantis when you looked?
Yes. But that is not her only alias.
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