[QUOTE=sonata;3565140]
Back to windy day. One of the boarders at my barn said her horses were afraid of the wind because they were Arabians and Arabians are desert bred so they didn’t know about wind. Never mind that her horses were 10 generations from desert bred and the last I heard, the desert had lots of wind.[/QUOTE]
haha - hahaha. My sentiment: Arab’s are only as crazy as their owners. 
Ok so I will be right there beside all the other parents selling child to gypsies;
However - we were at a local show and the boy was helping out on the jump crew. He got a little full of himself and was forgetting his manners.
I asked him the question that for what ever reason really gets his attention “Were you born in a barn and raised by wolves?”
For what ever reason this works to straighten him right up into good behavior.
[QUOTE=beeblebrox;3565231]
"pattnic
Or they should wait until they are jumping five-foot to start doing rollbacks at a show? I dunno, I see some value to doing rollbacks, etc at a show before moving up, in order to gain more experience.
You know, some horses just don’t have the ability to do higher than 3’… but their riders/owners love their horses so much that they stick at 3’, even when they could advance."
I am fine with roll backs and I think you know that I am not talking about controlled roll backs. I am talking about the rooting parents and trainers on the rail at the speed bump jumpers (.70 thought .90) going for broke and out of control. WHY because many of those horses have come down the ranks and are still willing does not mean they should be run off their legs. AT the season closer the champion of one such division was SCARY and did not have the skills to be doing what she was doing and be encouraged by her coach, the horse used to do the high AO’s and is now being run like a dog and looks like bambi on ice being dragged around turns by a uneducated rider who was rewarded. IT’S SICK but wahoooo I am circuit champion of the .85’s 
The cherry on the cake all was several trainers and parents where opened mouthed at that dangerous riding and as the championship was announced the parents and trainers were telling the kid it was sour grapes from people… My point is and also was for the original poster it is easy to put on your rose colored glasses and “ASSUME” that people are in envy of your ride when quite possibly we are thinking WTH, OMG etc!
The original poster talked of a roll back and one stride to a fence, VERY VERY few speed bump jumper riders have that skill to ride what she described.
QUITE a leap you make from 3 foot to 5 foot by the way, I said nothing about waiting until you jumped 5 feet but want to learn how to ride a roll back, do it like many of us did and spend some time in the medals where you need control and guts. I understand the economics of having them and appreciate the speed bump jumper classes as they are a great learning venue for green horses and green riders on made horses but miss the days when jumpers started at 3’3-3’6. Lastly I do not BUY for one second the whole " well the horse can not jump bigger than 3 foot so well" what you let some kid or adult careen around on some poor horse pretending to be Richard Spooner? NOT OK! I did a happy dance when A FEW speed bump jumpers CLASSES went to clear round ribbons and no championship as it reduced the zeal from parents, riders and trainers! SO because trainer and riders could not calm down management had to to, that should tell you something!!! Safety people, it’s not just for breakfast ;-)[/QUOTE]
My POINT is that there is a time and a place for everything, including a tight rollback in a “speed bump” jumper class. YOU are the one who in their first post on this thread, implies that there is no reason for such a thing. I was simply giving examples of the where and why it might be appropriate.
Not all horses have the capacity to be competitive at 3’6"… so their owners compete them at 3’. I’m not saying they are not able to jump higher; rather, they compete at where they are physically comfortable. No one here will disagree with me.
I “made the jump” from 3’ to 5’ because a) someone else had mentioned those heights, and b) I was exaggerating to help make a point.
I’m not saying there are not unsafe riders. I am also not saying that safety should not be a concern. I am simply saying that just because someone is competing at a lower level, that does not necessarily mean that they are an unsafe rider.
Perhaps try to not paint with such a broad brush.
PS - Your first post also said nothing positive about the skill of the rider. You essentially said that they were likely being used as an example of “what not to do”. It was not until this last post that you indicate that the other poster might actually have some skill.
More from trackside than ringside, but still makes me laugh…
My non-horsey brother and his wife came with us to the race track. After about the 5th race, my sister-in-law turns to me and says “That is a beautiful grey horse, how many times are they going to run it today??” It took me a moment before I realized that she thought that just because there was a grey horse in every race that it was the SAME grey horse!!!
Of course, after explaining to her that they have several weeks or more off between races, she was relieved that they weren’t worked to death, but then my business-minded brother chimes in “how do they make any money for their owners if they only run once a month?”
Haven’t been brave enough to take them to a horse show yet…
[QUOTE=shawneeAcres;3555573]
OK here is brain dead from the judge!! I was showing a nice horse in a training level dressage test at a schooling show. We enter at A, halt at X, horse decides RIGHT NOW he has to pee!! He stretches out, and pees, and pees, and pess, with everyone laughing and giggling. I patiently wait for the flood to stop and then proceed with my test. The judge had the NERVE to give me a “1” for the score for the halt, stating "prolonged halt at X’ well…duhhhh!!! Course I got my revenge as NO HORSE that day had a nice straight entry and halt as none of them wanted to swim the puddle we had left!!!:lol:[/QUOTE]
Friends horse did the same thing. Got a 7 for his nice halt prior to the flood. Judge’s commentO on the bottom of the test: “Thanks for marking “X” for us! LOL”
[QUOTE=tidy rabbit;3556822]
Seriously? I don’t get shocked by much, but that is really quite offensive.[/QUOTE]
At least when I heard a noted dressage trainer say “STS” (screw the saddle), she looked over her riders and the auditors, and first said, “Well, we’re all adults here, so, basically, what you want to do is …STS”
[QUOTE=apachepony;3557142]
I’m sad to say I know exactly who you’re talking about, and they are beyond horrifying. Since i’m doing eventing now, I don’t mind if people choose to wear a vest, but at least put it under your freaking coat![/QUOTE]
Well, I don’t know about different brands of vests (perhaps some are “thinner”?), but my hunt/dressage coat fits me nicely and I cannot button it over my vest. If it were big enough to go over the vest, it would be baggy. I’m riding a sometimes explosive, v. green 4 year old, and he’s done two whole shows at Intro and I wore my vest over my coat (charcoal coat/black vest) both times. Judge didn’t care. It was neat and clean.
Said later about a horse’s behavior at a show
This is a quote from a stallion breeder’s website, explaining why his stallion behaved so badly in the arena:
‘Things were going fine. “Stallion Name” dislikes foals. They imply the presence of mares bred by rival stallions presumably, and the sight of them gets his hormones all worked up, a natural stallion behavior, and he is a very natural stallion.’
And at a later show:
‘In the final stallion championship he was reserve champ. Of course for the grand championship class there were broodmares in the ring with their 2006 foals by their sides, so guess how he handled that one? Yep, broke loose from a hired professional German handler, galloped around like mad, not-so-subtly offered to breed the mare who ultimately became Grand Champion of Devon, and when she declined he quieted down and left in disgrace’
Who wants to breed to this well-behaved animal?
[QUOTE=SuperSTB;3563964]
I tell my kids all the time when they don’t behave…
“you’ll compost fast in the manue pile”
or
“I can hide a body in the riding ring- the sand is easy to dig in”
I suppose that means they’ll be in therapy???[/QUOTE]
Lol our coach offers to conduct dead-body-decomposing-in-manure-pile experiments frequently. She also has told my friend to join the itty bitty titty committee (stick your chest out). At shows it gets edited to just “the committee” :lol:
[QUOTE=Renn/aissance;3561915]
AppendixQHLover, I think we are thinking of the same person. I can only hope we are, because I’d hate for there to be two of them![/QUOTE]
You need to PM me your location, and I will be able to tell you who it is. I feel bad for the poor horse.
[QUOTE=Come Shine;3565173]
I went over to offer some encouragement along the lines of, you have a nice horse, it’s coming along, don’t give up sort of thing. Weeelllll. The mother whips around and says “I sure wish you would tell that stupid judge that. She keeps kicking my kid out of the ring.” Ummm, k, that would be me, and btw, those are called rules, ma’am. :)[/QUOTE]
Precious! Reminds me of the time when my sister was working at the local humane society and chased some crazy lady out of the “Not nice dogs” cage. The lady called later that day to complain about “that girl out back” and my sister happened to take the call. Her response was… “Oh that was ME. And YOU were breaking the rules.”
This is something that I overheard at a local show. It was between classes and the jump crew was setting the course. Well this mom is talking to her son and says “This is why you go to school, so you don’t have to be jump crew.” Little did she know the jump crew were all in college to be engineers and they now all work for very well known companies. Just goes to show you how closed minded people can be. I have done gates for years and have met many people of all walks of life doing the jump crew.
At a schooling show, oh about ten years ago, I was standing on the fence as honorary groom for my trainer’s kids in the 2’ class. One of the said kids just happened to be my trainer’s nephew and let’s just say the only reason he rode was because his mom made him.
Well they are all in the flat class and nephew is doing a quite wonderful job with his completely made pony which has us all quite shocked. Then the call is made for horses to canter and nephew manages an absolutely beautiful transition. At which point nephew calls from other side of the arena to my trainer-
“____ I didn’t ask him to canter or nothing” :eek:
And our aspires to be on the jump crew! He does this at some of our local shows, takes it very seriously and wanted to know why he couldn’t do this at HITS.
Not at a show… but this one sent my normally ‘I don’t give a $%’ daughter into a blind rage. We were at the Gold Cup and a loose horse literally mowed down an EMT who was in the opening. Brain dead drunk corporate types… “Wow, this is better than NASCAR.” The poor EMT never did get up again. I hope he’s OK.
[QUOTE=SuperSTB;3563964]
I tell my kids all the time when they don’t behave…
“you’ll compost fast in the manue pile”
or
“I can hide a body in the riding ring- the sand is easy to dig in”
I suppose that means they’ll be in therapy???[/QUOTE]
Yeah… first time my daughter came back with ‘that’s child abuse’ my answer was… “good, call social services. I’ll bet you’d love being in the foster care system.”
When husband finally got sick of digging post holes for fencing, he just told me there was a 5’ one out there with my name on it. :lol:
Trainer at the ingate yelling at verrrry green rider on an equally green OTTB; “Keep jerking his mouth and get his head down before you go in”
[QUOTE=lesyl;3565466]
Ok so I will be right there beside all the other parents selling child to gypsies;
However - we were at a local show and the boy was helping out on the jump crew. He got a little full of himself and was forgetting his manners.
I asked him the question that for what ever reason really gets his attention “Were you born in a barn and raised by wolves?”
For what ever reason this works to straighten him right up into good behavior.[/QUOTE]
This reminds me of something my daughter said when she was about 4 (she’s always had a quick wit). She used to leave the door wide open every time she went outside. One day, she left it gaping open and I said, “Were you born in a barn?” She replied, without ever slowing down or turning around–“No, but Jesus was and he turned out fine!” I didn’t know whether to spank her or laugh!:lol:
Catzmom, that is GREAT! I can just see a little girl saying that! Too funny.
[QUOTE=catzmom;3566420]
This reminds me of something my daughter said when she was about 4 (she’s always had a quick wit). She used to leave the door wide open every time she went outside. One day, she left it gaping open and I said, “Were you born in a barn?” She replied, without ever slowing down or turning around–“No, but Jesus was and he turned out fine!” I didn’t know whether to spank her or laugh!:lol:[/QUOTE]
Haha :lol: Very similiar story with my daughter when she was around 4 or 5. I was irritated at her for constantly opening the doors and letting the dogs outside. I was only “scolding” her (as much as I can to an adorable 4 year old). Next thing she says is, “Mom, I’m not perfect, and I’m not Jesus, and I don’t walk on water.” I stopped and laughed!
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