I’m only 30 :lol:
Tobiano. I’ve owned 3 pintos, all tobiano, over many decades. 2 from the South and one from Germany. My favorite pattern. Although I do not recommend that anyone buy a 50/50 dapple grey and white pinto who likes to lie down in manure in a 24x12 stall.
Nice looking horse, collection wise. Don’t pick him on color, pick him on conformation and performance and breeding. Then chose the color after he passes the other criteria.
And pinto is the term always used,since the dark ages, for horses “of colour.” The paint breed, according to my QH friends, came about when some QHs had too much white above the knees and were rejected by the AQHA… Now doesn’t the AQHA take colour as well?
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I’m only 30 :lol:[/QUOTE]
Oh, you young thing! 
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The paint breed, according to my QH friends, came about when some QHs had too much white above the knees and were rejected by the AQHA… Now doesn’t the AQHA take colour as well?[/QUOTE]
Yep. That along with the whole “breeding stock paint” thing still makes it hard for me to consider the paint horse a “breed.” I’ll grudgingly go with “emerging breed.” It used to be a registry for QH’s with too much white, whether it was over the knee, on the face or on the body. With the ‘one paint parent’ rule, it is becoming more of a breed, but there is still that pesky breeding stock issue. 
Mosey_2003: That’t probably why you haven’t really heard Pinto. Its definitely fallen out of the lingo and been replaced by paint…even when paint is not correct.
Used to be you could find a skewbald out in the west, or a pinto. Vintage Bret Harte/Mark Twain would be the era to find skewbald in literature. Pinto is just Spanish for spotted, like pinto beans.
I remember what a couple of the posters say, the Pinto for the off breeds and Paint for the QH types, but that was in the '60’s with the breed associations.
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Mosey_2003: That’t probably why you haven’t really heard Pinto. Its definitely fallen out of the lingo and been replaced by paint…even when paint is not correct.[/QUOTE]
That’s what I meant!
In the Saddlebred world, we just called them all spotted horses until they all sort it out.
Of it has spots. It’s spotted. The end.
Like someone mentioned about color and genetics and Siamese ( color point) cats…there is a lot to be learned from them, and it seems a long way to go to really figure this out.
Pinto can be most any breed with spots, but a paint is a breed. You can have a paint who isn’t a pinto (breeding stock) and a pinto who isn’t a paint (spotted TWH for example).
Therefore the horse in the OP is a pinto, but not a paint and likely has a tobiano gene and a sabino gene.
Thought I’d also add that this thread is really making me feel like I should change my username to SplashOveroHunter since my overo hunter is actually a splash overo :lol:
At this point I’m only comfortable with using pinto for horses registered with the Pinto registry. I use “spotted” as the generic term.
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At this point I’m only comfortable with using pinto for horses registered with the Pinto registry. I use “spotted” as the generic term.[/QUOTE]
Be careful or you’ll have the ApHC folks all over you!
Polka Dotted!
I vote we move to Paisley
Pinto has always defined a coloured horse who is not an appy or POA or knapstrupper (if I spelled that correctly.) And white above the knees means colour above the knee,s whether on body or face. My QH friends said one white spot on body was OK by AQHA, but not two. Don’t know what the rule is now since the AQHA now takes colour.
I’ll stick with the old term of pinto. While others around here call any horse of colour a paint, I don’t think the generic term applies. And the pinto horse association came about many decades after I got my first horse, a pinto tobiano. And my 2nd horse, a pinto tobiano. And my Hessen, a pinto tobiano. BTW, the paint horse assn told me when I bought Cloudy that my Hessen, while 1/2 TB, cannot be registered as a paint.
Pinto is a color, despite the ability to register the color as a pinto, and paint is some offshoot of the AQHA, although I’ve been told that for financial reasons, the AQHA now take coloured horses.
I’m old, and can remember when pintos were discriminated against in shows. Now we all pay extra for color. Especially with the european warmbloods. How times change!
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Pinto has always defined a coloured horse who is not an appy or POA or knapstrupper (if I spelled that correctly.) And white above the knees means colour above the knee,s whether on body or face. My QH friends said one white spot on body was OK by AQHA, but not two. Don’t know what the rule is now since the AQHA now takes colour.
I’ll stick with the old term of pinto. While others around here call any horse of colour a paint, I don’t think the generic term applies. And the pinto horse association came about many decades after I got my first horse, a pinto tobiano. And my 2nd horse, a pinto tobiano. And my Hessen, a pinto tobiano. BTW, the paint horse assn told me when I bought Cloudy that my Hessen, while 1/2 TB, cannot be registered as a paint.
Pinto is a color, despite the ability to register the color as a pinto, and paint is some offshoot of the AQHA, although I’ve been told that for financial reasons, the AQHA now take coloured horses.
I’m old, and can remember when pintos were discriminated against in shows. Now we all pay extra for color. Especially with the european warmbloods. How times change![/QUOTE]
Isn’t that funny!
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And don’t forget Arabian. It was all a scandal when they started crop out overo. My first horse was a 1970’s Arab with enough white to be registered overo pinto.[/QUOTE]
Registered with what registry? AHA doesn’t recognize overo or pinto in purebred Arabians. The only acceptable coat colors are Chestnut, Bay, Black, Grey & Roan. Pictures must be submitted depicting a blend of at least 50:50 white and another color (usually chestnut) to be registered as a roan. Nit many have qualified.
Anyone else remember when “Pintarabians” or something like that were being sold? I used to look at those ads, as the horses had the Arabian “look” but the pinto coloration. I never knew anyone who bought one. The flag tail cost extra, btw…
Pintabians? something like that.
Pintabians :yes:
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Registered with what registry? AHA doesn’t recognize overo or pinto in purebred Arabians. The only acceptable coat colors are Chestnut, Bay, Black, Grey & Roan. [/QUOTE]
He had enough white to be registered PtHA but it was on his midline and not visible from the side so just don’t draw it in on the AHA markings form 
There was a rumor that Khemosabi was born with a white patch that was surgically altered.
