Trailer hunting: brands, floor plans, etc

Per my last thread, my old steel trailer has been having some issues, and we are considering replacing it altogether, probably with a new model (vs a newer used model). Looking for some general advice while trailer hunting.

My previous set-up: I have a 2010 F150 w/ 4WD & larger axel ratio, has been hauling my current all steel '93 Sterling 2H BP w/ DR with no issues. Before the Sterling, I had an older small steel trailer with mangers (which I hated!) and no DR. I usually haul out 4-6 days per week traveling 10-30 miles round-trip, and 90% of the time I am by myself with one horse (occasionally alone w/ 2 horses, & sometimes I actually have help :lol:).

Brands: top contenders are Adams, Shadow, and Frontier. Would love to hear any thoughts on those, or other recommendations in that price range (ie. < 14k). Located in SE PA, so looking at dealers in that area + NJ, DE, MD.

Construction: I am currently looking at aluminum skin w/ steel frame, or all aluminum. My thinking is that either of those would be lighter than my current all-steel trailer. Any pros/ cons of one vs the other?

Floor-plan: My trailers have previously all been straight loads w/ ramps so I had planned to keep that. My horses all load well though, so I’m potentially open to step-ups or slant loads. I definitely need a dressing room. My current trailer is 6’ wide with 7’ stalls + 3’ head room, and every new model I have looked at is at least that large, or bigger. My horses are 15.1 & short-bodied, 16.0 & long-bodied, & 13.3, all load well, trailer well, etc in my current set-up. So I don’t think I necessarily need an x-wide, x-tall, WB size, etc. The one option I was considering is a side ramp (specifically the Adams 710A WB has this)- with my thought being that if for some reason I needed to move all 3 horses at once (ie. an occasional/ emergency situation- not an everyday occurrence), I could load the pony in front of the two straight stalls- is this totally nuts? If that wasn’t an option, I don’t know that it would be worth even having a side ramp- does anyone have a side ramp and have strong feelings about it one way or the other?

I bought a Adam Excursion 3 horse slant last year. I really like it, well made. I’d compare the quality/construction to 4star/Hart/Cherokee/eby. A sturdy/rugged All aluminum that will take a lot of miles and abuse. I like their drop down bars/windows and dividers—and rear tack—well made design, not flimsy, and very attractive looking as a plus. It tows really nicely w my diesel Ram, very smooth, maneuvers handy, and little details I like, such as : light on each wheel well and back corner–so in the dark, or night rainy conditions changing lanes, I can always see right away where my wheel is and back corner. One reason I looked into them was because all the harness racing trainers in my area have them…they put tons of miles on, all times of year, full of horses…and they are still looking great/working fine 10 years later.

The Adams come in different line—one line is all alum, other is alum skin I think. I have all alum. And it’s rugged built like a 4 star. The other line is not so beefy.

Frontier is made near me—I don’t recommend. Pretty flimsy IMHO.

Shaddow I looked at when I was shopping. I had mixed feelings. The look pretty good but I’d think about wear and tear–how much abuse your horse will give it.

I felt, if I’m shelling out for aluminum, I want something that will take whatever we throw at it, and, if and when I need to sell it is going to have good resale value/ be in good shape. I’ve recently had a very ticked off draft mare in My Adam who pushed her full force on the back wall and divider testing them and gave the back wall a hefty kick. Not a scratch or dent to be seen !

[QUOTE=cheerio280;8902106]
Per my last thread, my old steel trailer has been having some issues, and we are considering replacing it altogether, probably with a new model (vs a newer used model). Looking for some general advice while trailer hunting.

My previous set-up: I have a 2010 F150 w/ 4WD & larger axel ratio, has been hauling my current all steel '93 Sterling 2H BP w/ DR with no issues. Before the Sterling, I had an older small steel trailer with mangers (which I hated!) and no DR. I usually haul out 4-6 days per week traveling 10-30 miles round-trip, and 90% of the time I am by myself with one horse (occasionally alone w/ 2 horses, & sometimes I actually have help :lol:).

Brands: top contenders are Adams, Shadow, and Frontier. Would love to hear any thoughts on those, or other recommendations in that price range (ie. < 14k). Located in SE PA, so looking at dealers in that area + NJ, DE, MD.

Construction: I am currently looking at aluminum skin w/ steel frame, or all aluminum. My thinking is that either of those would be lighter than my current all-steel trailer. Any pros/ cons of one vs the other?

Floor-plan: My trailers have previously all been straight loads w/ ramps so I had planned to keep that. My horses all load well though, so I’m potentially open to step-ups or slant loads. I definitely need a dressing room. My current trailer is 6’ wide with 7’ stalls + 3’ head room, and every new model I have looked at is at least that large, or bigger. My horses are 15.1 & short-bodied, 16.0 & long-bodied, & 13.3, all load well, trailer well, etc in my current set-up. So I don’t think I necessarily need an x-wide, x-tall, WB size, etc. The one option I was considering is a side ramp (specifically the Adams 710A WB has this)- with my thought being that if for some reason I needed to move all 3 horses at once (ie. an occasional/ emergency situation- not an everyday occurrence), I could load the pony in front of the two straight stalls- is this totally nuts? If that wasn’t an option, I don’t know that it would be worth even having a side ramp- does anyone have a side ramp and have strong feelings about it one way or the other?[/QUOTE]

Well, if you’re open to used, I am about to trade in a fully loaded Merhow 2h with all the options, 2 years old, to a dealer in Maryland as I am downsizing. Xtra tall, wide, fans, insulated, LED lights, the works.

A couple friends have Adam trailers, but I would put them in the same class as the Runabouts from 4star, not the upper line. Nice, but not my favorite trailer. When I bought my Merhow I did a lot of research and the brand consistently had positive feedback about being well designed and durable and I would agree. Everything on the trailer is very horse friendly. No sharp edges, full chest doors instead of narrow bars, windows and vents everywhere. Great trailer.

The other brand I was considering was Cimmarron and those were also supposed to be in the 4star/Hart/etc class but I think it was around $20k for a straight load with everything I wanted, so I couldn’t swing it. I would have gone that way if I had the option.

That’s interesting— I’ve seen many merhows with cracked rear corners. But they were big ones LQ’s and head to heads—frame not well designed for the sway forces at top corners. It’s a decent small trailer 2 h but not all of them were /are all aluminum, certain lines are steel with alum skin only.

The difference w a top end 4star is how customizable the frame is. The top end line they will build anything—10 slant elephant rig. They also use a solid smooth sheet aluminum floor because they like that it doesn’t dig into matting over time, and they like the smooth surface for washing down and repair a a hole if ever needed. Adam and other companies use a joined alum floor of interlocking sheets with ridges. And it will have the solid aluminum side plating all the way around not just sides of horse compartment. Runabout is kind of a prix fix, you get a certain set up of options and they don’t use the solid Aluminum plating all the way around or as high up the sides.

when looking at Adam’s be aware they, like 4 star, have different aluminum “lines”. The Pro Racer line is all alum, rugged, but no frills, no insulation, no slatted air flow dividers, bit more basic work horse. The Excursions are the top line—really nice air flow dividers/drop downs, solid alum plating up the sides insulation, bells and whistles. Then there’s another line—I think it’s alum skin over steel more basic. This is the trailer I have http://parksidetrailers.com/detail.asp?ID=772858

IME-- 4star, Eby, Adam, Cherokee, Hart, Jamco are a lot alike if you deal with their best lines (well, Jamco has different construction)—and they are heavier alum trailers. They are rugged, built for abuse. In a 2h BP—probably don’t need that. In a 3+Gn or LQ going across country…it’s a good thing. Especially over 10 years of that kind of treatment.

I like Blue Ribbon too.

Featherlight and Sooner, Kieffer, …again, upper end models there certainly a million around and they do last. Weak point for me is their drop down window bars and dividers…That stuff get’s beat to hell over time, and that will show on those brands.

Things to look at in a alum trailer are----the sheeting—how it’s riveted and or glued and if it has the thick solid alum plating up the sides at least exterior of horse compartment. Reason for this is the force horses put on the walls over time. The plating up the side…which may be the wrong word for that—but u know what I mean, the solid shiny alum wavy stuff up the sides. It makes the box stronger. And then—top corners, where back corners meet roof gable. That is weak on some brands—look at a 4 star—that’s the gold standard everyone else copied.And sheeting, you should be able to put hands on outside and vibrate nothing. Some brands that sheeting will flap like paper. If it’s thick, riveted, it’s more durable.

Hinges and door hardware----heavier is better. Look at a bunch a brands—you’ll start to see right away what’s a hinge made to last 20 years and one that looks like it goes on a kitchen cabinet.

If your horses haul well and like the straight load ramp configuration I wouldn’t change that. My competition horse is the best loading and hauling horse I have ever owned, and I hauled him once on a step up slant load and he was really upset that there was no ramp and the next couple times we traveled on his normal trailer he was concerned, before going back to his normal self. So unless you already know that your horses don’t mind switching it up, I would stick with what they like.

I recently bought a new Equispirit. I love it. LOVE it. The quality is impressive, it hauls like a dream, and the people at Equispirit could not have been better to deal with.

I looked at quite a few different brands of trailers. Brand new 4 Stars and Shadows and used models of several other brands (every 2 horse straight load bumper pull that was on the lot at two different dealers). Don’t get me wrong, the 4 Stars and Shadows were nice. The 4 Stars were really nice and the price reflected it. But, the Equispirit was, for me, hands down, the best combination of quality, features, and price. I expected to pay more for what I got.

And no, I don’t work for Equispirit. :slight_smile:

Thanks all, this is really helpful! I have been checking out all of the brands suggested- some are out of my price range, and some just don’t have a dealer near me- and I’m currently grounded with a few shows still left in the season so I need to get this sorted out ASAP.

I’ve been compiling a list of models in my price range listed at dealers near me. For comparison’s sake, they are all 2H BP straight load w/ ramp & dressing room. Any thoughts? Relative value for the money between brands?

Adams 710A Ju-Lite- $10,595 (steel frame, alum skin)
Trailers USA Minuteman- $11,495 (all alum)
Homesteader Stallion- $11,995 (steel frame, alum skin)
Shadow KingMate- $12,292 (all alum)
Lakota Charger- $12,495 (all alum)
Exiss 720T- $12,995 (all alum)
Merhow- $14,500 (all alum)
Adams Jubilee- $14,995 (all alum)
Sundowner Charter- $15,500 (all alum)

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Thanks all, this is really helpful! I have been checking out all of the brands suggested- some are out of my price range, and some just don’t have a dealer near me- and I’m currently grounded with a few shows still left in the season so I need to get this sorted out ASAP.

I’ve been compiling a list of models in my price range listed at dealers near me. For comparison’s sake, they are all 2H BP straight load w/ ramp & dressing room. Any thoughts? Relative value for the money between brands?

Adams 710A Ju-Lite- $10,595 (steel frame, alum skin)
Trailers USA Minuteman- $11,495 (all alum)
Homesteader Stallion- $11,995 (steel frame, alum skin)
Shadow KingMate- $12,292 (all alum)
Merhow- $14,500 (all alum)
Adams Jubilee- $14,995 (all alum)
Sundowner Charter- $15,500 (all alum)[/QUOTE]

Would cross off the sundowner. Never had good luck with one.

My Merhow with all the options was more like $17,500. Someone’s going to get an excellent deal on mine, but I just don’t want to deal with a fullsize pickup anymore.

Jubilee would be worth looking at, I didn’t care for the 710As I looked at.

Have heard very mixed things about the Shadows. Some love them, some hate them.

I looked at the homesteader and thought they had the potential for good value, but they are H-E-A-V-Y. Like 1000lbs more for a trailer that’s not as well constructed. That said, they certainly are roomy.

I think Jim_in_PA has a Trailers USA he’s been happy with.

If in that price range you might want to add in Kingston. They are very popular in New England and there should be a dealer relatively near you. I think Traveled Lane in MD sold them. Well built and well priced trailers.

I’ve got to say, I LOVE my Hawk. Every time I use it I am struck by how much I enjoy using it. Hated my previous Featherlite. Do a search on this forum on Hawks. That is how I came to buy one. The reviews were overwhelmingly positive. I got mine from Risa at Happy Trails Trailers and got a great deal. I found her very helpful and great to work with, too.

[QUOTE=cheerio280;8902397]

Adams 710A Ju-Lite- $10,595 (steel frame, alum skin)
Trailers USA Minuteman- $11,495 (all alum)
Homesteader Stallion- $11,995 (steel frame, alum skin)
Shadow KingMate- $12,292 (all alum)
Lakota Charger- $12,495 (all alum)
Exiss 720T- $12,995 (all alum)
Merhow- $14,500 (all alum)
Adams Jubilee- $14,995 (all alum)
Sundowner Charter- $15,500 (all alum)[/QUOTE]

I don’t care for Homesteader, or Sundowner. I think you can do better for the money.

Trailers USA are well made, the important stuff is well done, they have lower price point because they aren’t particular fancy—which is fine IMO. Look it over , check the hinges and stuff that horse comes in contact with will put wear and tear on—and how you imagine it will be for you to be in and out of it w horse.

Shaddow-- same thing, really kick the tires and see what you think in person. They are competitively priced with some nice features—but, some negatives I’m aware of are— spring axles not torsion…many of us hauled years and years w spring axles just fine. Plus of torsion is…it really is a cushy ride to tow and in the box. However, I’ve never noticed any difference in attitude of a horse coming off spring or torsion! Also—check hinges and fittings—they might be a bit light…not such a big deal in a 2h skipping around. They also do not plate up the sides of the box with solid alum …again, less important in a 2h.

Lakota- also competitively priced with some nice pluses. Again, I think downsides are how rugged some of the fittings are and the sheeting—but again…2h straight load…this is less a concern than bigger rigs taking heavy loads many miles. Kick the tires well, see what you think.

Exiss-- top end trailers will be good and last a long time. They can be a bit light duty on some of the fittings like I mentioned on others. Lots of Exiss around with many miles.

Merhow----I’m just not a fan. They had a good reputation years ago—however, it is not the same company. Like Kieffer, Bison, they’ve undergone some ups and downs last 10 years. Thins I don’t like: the price as compared to other brands. No question you will get as good if not better from Exiss for less. They are built to be light not rugged—again, in a 2 h not the same issue as a LQ. I have literally seen 3 MerhowLQ 3h in the last 6 years that after one trip ME to FL and back—had cracked the rear corners of the box. Now–these are LQ’s and a lot of LQ’s are overloaded from the get go because…no one weighs or knows what’s on them including the dealer… I’ve known people w the Equistars which were really chincy. THAT SAID, if you look at the other posters Merhow for sale and it meets your needs fine, attractively priced, as a 2 h this is a different consideration than someone shopping for a big rig.

Equispirit is no different than a Hawk–just more expensive to buy from the Neve’s. That said, yes, youll get a good experience and help selecting what you need.

Hawk-- good trailers for a 2h or BP—I’m less a fan of the GN’s and bigger rigs. I’m not a huge fan of the interiors/dividers and latches and stuff— but on a 2h straight it’s fine.

I handled a racing stud for a friend. In and out of Harness racing tracks North East. At a Harness track you will get a real good consumer report of trailer quality/longevity walking down the parking area. The harness racers go year round, snow, rain, hurricanes, 6-8 horses on, several times a week. They beat the hell out of trailers. Some brands you just will not see in the parking lot period, or if you do…you can quickly see why no one else is using that brand. That said, for just taking a horse in 2h to a trail ride or couple shows a summer…you aren’t putting the kind of stress on a trailer a harness trainer does.

My reason for considering this is—if you are spending a chunk of change or financing to buy—being able to have some expectation of reselling the trailer in a emergency, you’re broke, or 5 years later you have no horse or want something different—brand names have some sale cache’ but the thing that really dings your resell value on a trailer is condition. Does it still look real nice in addition to functioning correctly? Go look at trailers…the ones you step in to stained carpets, bent grills, dings make you go “weeellll…?” We’ve all used at least one old steel stock trailer that looked like hell but was still rock solid…and no one beating the door down to buy it for $2k

Also—I’d go with a heavier trailer over a light one. In the end, light doesn’t save you much on fuel and they don’t take a beating as well and if fairly empty they ride over the road steady.

When shopping—look at the box—If you had a horse freak out beat the crap out of it…would they tear it apart.

We have a Merhow, BP 2H XT,XW, straight load, with ramp and dressing room. Now two years old, and looks new despite hauling 2-3 x per week. Bright and friendly to load into, with lights located perfectly. Hauls great. I am very happy with the quality, and have required no repairs.

Good luck with your search.

Should also add, I paid $14,900 Canadian

Thank you Cheltenham for all the info!

I took a drive down to the Adams dealer yesterday- unfortunately they were closed without notice so there wasn’t anyone around for me to talk to, but I did at least get to see a couple of the models I was interested in. I wasn’t a fan of the interior hardware in the steel frame models- looked like it would eventually get banged up & rust. I thought their all aluminum model was nice, but at the top of my price range. Thinking I’m probably going to try to see the Exiss next this week.

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That said, for just taking a horse in 2h to a trail ride or couple shows a summer…[/QUOTE]

The OP said

I usually haul out 4-6 days per week traveling 10-30 miles round-trip,

Another vote for the Hawk. Mine is 12 years old and still going strong.

[QUOTE=cheerio280;8903744]
Thank you Cheltenham for all the info!

I took a drive down to the Adams dealer yesterday- unfortunately they were closed without notice so there wasn’t anyone around for me to talk to, but I did at least get to see a couple of the models I was interested in. I wasn’t a fan of the interior hardware in the steel frame models- looked like it would eventually get banged up & rust. I thought their all aluminum model was nice, but at the top of my price range. Thinking I’m probably going to try to see the Exiss next this week.[/QUOTE]

Yes, that doesn’t suprise me. I have the Excursion, and a slant so—also it’s totally different stuff w/ drop downs, jail bars, airflow dividers. The Jubilee would be like what I have but 2H. This pic is w a BP. http://www.adamtrailers.com/jubilee.html One of the reasons I chose the Adam was–my choices in my region without getting into expense of transport ffrom farther away. I looked at hands down great trailers like top end well known 4stars— examined what really made them great, what I would need, what seemed to be good value investment long term—then I shopped around looked at what was in my area, pricing/ quality/ band for the buck. I also, as I’ve said—got to the harness tracks and there will literally be 10 Pro Racers parked side by side there 10-15 years old, so I could see what my investment would look like 10 years from now with hard use. It came together as a good investment for me. The one I purchased was last one on the lot in Dec. so dealer was willing to negotiate very attractive deal for it to get a home before the calendar clicked over to new year. Mine is a 3 slant xtra tall/wide in MA…too tall for western folks and no LQ, the Hunter folks don’t like slants, and the Harness racers aren’t interested in the bling of it or big DR. So—it posed some advantages to me as a shopper, met my needs nicely. I got price down, then had them add a walk thru door and 30amp shorepower and a water tank so I can plug in camp comfy without all the hassle/weight/size of a true LQ. Mine has full rear doors and step up—but I knew I could add a ramp to that if i did not like it. I am actually negotiating to get a ramp added now—I haul my horse loose because he’s…like Seabiscuit, he does best in a box stall. But, got my guys trained to back off down or turn come off—but it does take time to introduce a horse to that, and if I want to bring friends horse, I decided, it makes me feel less worried to add the ramp over full doors. I’m also sick of stepping up in and out w my junk so…ramp it is.

When I shopped I knew I really loved 4star, Hart, Cimmaron, Cherokee type of rig. And it depends your region, if you are in the West-- you have Twister, Blue Ribbon–brands you dont have in NEast. For me, Adam is made by the Dalton family in VA. I was able to call and speak to the guys making them, family biz. It was accessible. I also liked giving a family biz my biz for a product I came to feel was high quality, good value. I also called up 4Star—talked to them Great guys at 4star making great innovative product. If I lived in OK down street from them, hell yeah I’d be driving a 4star.

Other thing I really look at— but and chest bars—how easy they will be to open/drop in emergency. I like something simple, like the pin drop type. Ive been on hand when horses freaked, went down, rump under the butt bars, slid down ramp (or reared got legs over chest bar, even the side by side divider))—trying to stand w back crashing up against butt bars we could not get released-----the zig zag mechanism seen on Kingston and Merhow—not necessarily all years or models. In Emergency— you don’t have time to @#$%& with that zig zag style butt bar. A pin drop style you can also hook a lead rope on, or boat hook, anything on hand, to gain leverage to pull it out in a emergency.

Most of the brands—the cheaper lines give up some stuff. Which is not to say that’s a deal breaker—just want to keep a good eye on it. Also, in 2h consider what yu think you like for the head divider. Whether you think solid so that can’t see each other is best, or bars. Pros and cons to both. I look for good airflow first because trailer can get hot—even in cold weather with horses heating/ respiring moisture—steam bath. I like enough slatting/bars so they don’t get claustrophobic, have airflow instead of body heat bouncing back, can see they have a buddy but not enough eye contact to get pissy w a buddy ;0)

other thing— good time to squeeze any dealer on their price. Don’t be afraid to beat them down. And/or ask them to include extra/add ons once you get them to a point the won’t move from. For a dealer—adding fans, a 30amp shore power, battery box, walk thru door or ramp if its got full doors…this stuff doesn’t cost them much but will cost you much to add on if you pay someone to do it—so good things to ask them to throw in if they want you to pay their price.

There are lots of good trailer to be had, just pays to really feel it out to find a match for your needs/use.

The more I read, the more confused I become… have read negatives and positives for each brand I have listed.

The dealer with the Exiss just dropped the price another $1k over the weekend… not sure if that means I’d be getting a good deal, or if I should be concerned that they seem to be having trouble moving the last 3 of that model…

One major question that has come up: aluminum floors. A few models I’m looking at have extruded aluminum plank floors- my initial impression was that it was an expensive upgrade, they are stronger, lighter, etc. I have since read that aluminum floors are prone to corrosion, and they would need to be hosed and dried out every month- is this true?

Also, any thoughts on Cotner? They’re not too far from me and have a Royal XT in stock for $11,999.

I love my 2 year old straight load 2h all aluminum Sundowner. I would not get an older Sundowner. Many of the Sundowners with aluminum on steel had corrosion problems. My Sundowner came from the dealer in Ocala. The dealer delivered it to me in Virginia at a better price than the local dealer.

[QUOTE=cheerio280;8904238]
The more I read, the more confused I become… have read negatives and positives for each brand I have listed.

The dealer with the Exiss just dropped the price another $1k over the weekend… not sure if that means I’d be getting a good deal, or if I should be concerned that they seem to be having trouble moving the last 3 of that model…

One major question that has come up: aluminum floors. A few models I’m looking at have extruded aluminum plank floors- my initial impression was that it was an expensive upgrade, they are stronger, lighter, etc. I have since read that aluminum floors are prone to corrosion, and they would need to be hosed and dried out every month- is this true?

Also, any thoughts on Cotner? They’re not too far from me and have a Royal XT in stock for $11,999.[/QUOTE]

yes- it’s true, you can find some negatives about any brand. And people have their likes, dislikes.

The Aluminum floors can corode—but it’s not as agressive as say, iron and road salt. The alum interlocking plank floor is standard–most brands have it unless they use Rumber. 4star and C&C use a solid smooth sheet–I asked why, they said because it doesn’t have a texture/ridges that digs into underside of mats over time. Alum floors are strong—and in terms of corrosion, just like any floor—pull up mats, give it a hosing down to wash away urine and poo periodically.

I don’t think the fact that the Exiss is still there is a bad sign. They always get hungry to move them this time of year. Why it is still there—lots of reasons…could be a very popular model so they ordered a lot of them still have some to sell. Or, could be that style has less of a market in that area for some reason, which should not deter you if it is what you are looking for. The area I bought my 3 slant in—most people either want 3slant LQ, or a 2h straight, or a big head to head because it’s kinda suburban, it’s either a person looking to go to FL, or they are a barn owner/trainer trucking students to shows, or it’s a boarder hwo wants a 2h BP to skip around on their own. My 3 slant was last one, theyd only had 2 identical, one sold, mine was still there. It was exactly what I was after, and I was able to get it for a lot less than it would have sold for 4hours north in my state where lots of people want 3slant w DR because they have several horses at home, travel, don’t want a LQ to run around all the time…and it doubles as a hay hauler and toy hauler.

anyway—it’s not a bad sign if it’s got what you want and a price you like.

I don’t think I’ve seen a Cotner in person–but googled, looks like a Hawk. They are good trailers to be sure. If you choose not to go all alum–you won’t go wrong with that for sure.

Other thing…the sense of panic at this point in your search is totally normal :slight_smile: !!! Don’t rush. As a buyer, don’t be afraid to take your time. This time of year, you have the upper hand to get exactly what you want in a price you like. There are a million trailers, if you miss one there will definitely be another.