Training Rides: What are your expectations?

It is all well and good to say what you as the client “expect.” But in my experience, trainers are fairly set in their ways and do things the way they do them. If you don’t think what he/she does is worth the price, or if you can find someone who does a better job, then move. Otherwise, you pay their price for the kind of training they do. I have NEVER seen a trainer adjust their schedule because the client thinks it should be done differently.

The way it works at my barn is: Usually the trainer has a warm-up rider working with her. The warm-up rider is usually a teen-age or young adult working student who rides a first level or above and has experience getting on all sorts of horses. When that is the case, the warmup rider usually does 15 min of walk,trot,canter – generally gentle work in a streatchy frame (but that may varry depending on the horse.) For a difficult or green horse, the warm-up person might lunge or hand-walk instead of riding. Then the trainer gets on and trains for 20 minutes. The training is generally vigerous and focused. There may or may not be a 5 minute walk break in there depending on the horse’s fitness level mental needs, and how stremuous the work is. The trainer doesn’t cool down. If the horse is obviously blowing or hot, then a groom or warm-up rider will walk him (either by hand or under saddle) for 5 - 10 minutes. On a hot day or if the horse is dripping in sweat, the groom will hose off and walk briefly.

Some days there is no warm-up rider. In that case, the trainer is on for 25 - 30 minutes. With the first 5 - 10 minutes being walk-trot in a streatchy frame, then go to work as above.

Usually someone other than the warm-up rider is doing the grooming and bringing the horses and taking them away.

You know, I question having other people even do the warm up for the trainer. I get that it helps them with their time, and if they have someone who is a working student they are training under that person as well, but often the warm up lets you know about how the horse is feeling that day, and since you (as the trainer) are the most advanced rider on the horse, you will sense things more quickly and also be able to explain things more quickly to the horse with your body.

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I should be clear since there are those who know me IRL…I don’t have a horse in full training, and my current coach who I lesson with is by far the most ethical and honest trainer I have ever dealt with. She trains each horse with the same attention as if the owner was present…that includes not carrying her cellphone and stop every few minutes to text or check her Facebook. ;)I board at a large multidiscipline facility and have friends at other multi-trainer facilities and we were comparing notes about discrepancies we observed between trainer riding when the owner is present versus absent. Interesting discussion and I wanted to hear what COTH opinions were.

As for me I would expect my horse to be properly warmed up for 10 minutes and a minimum of 20 minutes of work specific to the level we are schooling and 5 minute cool down.[/QUOTE]

:lol::lol::lol:

Not laughing at you. Laughing at my opinion of some trainers in other disciplines.

There is a LOT of training which goes on with non dressage riders which I find appaling and can’t believe someone is paying for it. I don’t want to get into off topic stories unrelated to dressage here, but I have seen one hunter/jumper trainer and one non-western pleasure (so actual correct gaits) breed show trainer giving their clients training worth the money, and the rest I have seen were ripping off their clients. (There are probably plenty of other good ones, too - just not ones I have personally observed in training at their home facilities.)

The occasional 15-20 minute WTC ride is fine with me if the horse is otherwise in full work, has had a more intense schedule lately, and there is some reason it would be good for him to have a light ride today.

That said there certainly are trainers who find some excuse to do “long and low” for 20 minutes as their standard training interaction, while still (delusionally) considering themselves FEI trainers, and (somehow) charging ~$2k per month for this “full training”, and they ought to be embarrassed.