Triple Crown Lite vs. Low Starch

I am reading the Triple Crown website at

http://www.triplecrownfeed.com/news-carbohydrates.php

and it lists TC Lite as being 9.3% NSC and Low Starch as being 13.5%. Yet below that there are some sample diets, all of which list Lite as being 15.9% and Low Starch as 15%, and the COTH posts I could find also listed values in the 15% range.

Have they changed the formulas or is there a typo in the table?

I don’t know, but Triple Crown was really good about getting back to me quickly when I had questions about those two feeds. I would shoot them an e-mail or give them a call.

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Ambrey, the correct NSC values are: for lite, 9.3% and low starch is 13.5%, we must have missed changing the NSC in a couple of our charts, tables, etc.

The formulations did not and will not change, but retesting was done in the last year at the mills to see that everyone was on the same page and it was found all of our feeds came back lower then previous testing. The change is due in part to better testing and more accurate testing measures. Also able to break it down to WSC, ESC, NSC, Starch values etc.

We will try to get those numbers correct very soon.

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Seems like the Lite and LS numbers ought to be reversed. Why is LS so high? When it’s geared for those of us who NEED low NSC?

The NSC values for these two are just a result of the “formulation of these feeds”. Actually the low starch NSC is still much lower than many feeds out there, safechoice, strategy they are running in the high teens or so… low starch is for horses that need a low NSC feed, but may need a higher fat content and require more feed to maintain their weight. The lite is for those “easy keeper” horses, ponies and minis that can only eat a small amount or no grain at all along with their forage diet and could maintain their weight just fine. You get a very nutrient dense, low fat feed that you can feed in a small amount and meet their vit/min needs that would otherwise be shortchanged by feeding a feed below the feeding recommendations which happens all to often…

Ooh, right from the source! Thank you!

Maybe TC ought to change the names around, then, because if you’re marketing a feed to IR horse owners, it ought to be the LOWEST NSC feed you have.

tcnhorsefeed,

I apologize in advance for sort of hi-jacking this thread, but since TCNhorsefeed has made their presence known:)

I have a friend who feeds the TCLS to her IR Paso Fino and really likes it.

She lives 92 miles NE of me close to the KY border.

I would have fed it to my IR Tennessee Walker had I been able to find it.

As it is, I feed stabilized pelleted rice bran & a pelleted vit/min supplement because this horse needs the fat.

In doing a search on the Triple Crown web site, there is NO Triple Crown dealer within easy driving distance of me. The site only shows three dealers in Tennessee; they are all NE and a couple hours away.

Is that a correct statement or does the “Locator” portion of your web site need updated?

If it is a correct statement, what is up with that? I could buy Purina’s WellSolve L/S, but I don’t think so ------- I wouldn’t feed that to a pig I was getting ready to butcher.

My only choices in my county are Purina (yuk), TSC’s “Dumor” (double yuk); Co-op’s new “Winner’s Cup” feed (no thanks, but it’s their rice bran I buy).

I am not willing to waste gas and time driving more than than 35 miles to buy horse feed and even that distance is a stretch because I do work off the farm and I am too old to be gallivanting all over creation in the search for feed.

Since the rice bran was recommended by an equine nutritionist and it is readily available, that is what I have been feeding this fella for the last two years.

Again, I apologize for the semi-hi-jack of this thread:)

walkinthewalk…

yes, that is correct…there are only a few dealers in TN, however we are abundant in KY and a few states that surround it. The whole story is not quite known or understood, but there is some kind of old “horseman’s agreement” that has made it difficult/impossible for us to get into that area…I am also assuming by your statement that it is a vast “purina feed” country and that may have something to do with why we can’t claim any stores…as you mentioned we are working on the NE area of TN and hopefully we can expand that as time goes on…it is unfortunate as we get a lot of calls and interest for our feed from people in TN, but that is all we have at this time…

TCNhorsefeed, thank you for your reply. I will have to keep hoping a boundary will be let down one day soon.

For now, I am thankful I can get rice bran and that it’s working. Even the beet pulp that our Tractor Supply sells has molasses in it:(

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Maybe TC ought to change the names around, then, because if you’re marketing a feed to IR horse owners, it ought to be the LOWEST NSC feed you have.[/QUOTE]

Ugh, no more name changes! I’ve just got my hubby to process that Southern States Legends Equitech is now Performance :rolleyes:. We love Triple Crown Lite for our fat, easy keepers. The low starch is a nice benefit, but it’s about the calories. :yes:

[QUOTE=tcnhorsefeed;4128940]
walkinthewalk…

yes, that is correct…there are only a few dealers in TN, however we are abundant in KY and a few states that surround it. The whole story is not quite known or understood, but there is some kind of old “horseman’s agreement” that has made it difficult/impossible for us to get into that area…I am also assuming by your statement that it is a vast “purina feed” country and that may have something to do with why we can’t claim any stores…as you mentioned we are working on the NE area of TN and hopefully we can expand that as time goes on…it is unfortunate as we get a lot of calls and interest for our feed from people in TN, but that is all we have at this time…[/QUOTE]

Again not to hijack but my feedstore just told us that they now must order a particular ton amount of the 12% supplement but not so for the 30% or other feeds in the line. This is causing the feedstore to drop that product in the line. Why are there now quantity requirements? Feedstore is even trying to get the other stores to go in on the amount but that isn’t working.

purina is pretty pushy

we have 3 stores in the area that sell only purina feeds.
i don’t know what the benefit of being a purina exclusive dealer is but as a customer i find it annoying.

Could someone explain how Triple Crown Lite and/or Low Starch compare to plain beet pulp mixed with a top of the line ration balancer and corn oil? My two ulcer prone TBs are eating BP willingly, but I’m concerned about amounts, nutrition, etc. I definitely think continuing to feed Strategy after treatment with Ulcergard last year were a part of the reason my gelding’s ulcers reoccurred…now adamant that his diet have NO sugars that I can prevent…on the other hand, I am very lacking in the knowledge needed here to get stuff in the right proportions, have access to Triple Crown feeds, as well as Purina and Southern States. Suggestions/thoughts please. :cool:

[QUOTE=Ambrey;4126889]
Ooh, right from the source! Thank you![/QUOTE]

Well, if you had emailed them instead of posting here, you would have gotten the same result. It isn’t that hard. That’s what they’re there for.

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Again not to hijack but my feedstore just told us that they now must order a particular ton amount of the 12% supplement but not so for the 30% or other feeds in the line. This is causing the feedstore to drop that product in the line. Why are there now quantity requirements? Feedstore is even trying to get the other stores to go in on the amount but that isn’t working.[/QUOTE]

Is that why I’ve been waiting forever for my two bags of 12% supplement? :mad: I’m going to have to switch to something else if this keeps up. It works so well with the alfalfa pellets I need for one horse darn it.

I actually did both. And got the answer here first.

And by posting here, the answer was available to others who might have had the same question.

and for that very reason, I thank you…and have another avenue for getting possible input on my questions…:cool:

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No
“Lite” is for horses that need a LOW CALORIE feed- which translates to both low starch AND low fat- but still need the vitamins and minerals.

The guidelines say you should not feed more than 4-5 lb of “Lite” per day, so it is ONLY for the "easy keepers. Lots of IR horses will need more that that.

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Oh, they must have you on ignore. :frowning: My bad.