Apparently in 31 states, the Triple Crown feed supplied will now be manufactured by Nutrena, as per the TC website…
I just got my two bags of TC 30 today, and it’s quite evident that the maker is different. The pellets used to be the fatter ones. They are now skinny, long pellets. Seem to be ok, and my horses (pigs that they are) ate them fine…So here in TX it appears it’s now Nutrena made feed…
Might want to check yours, in case you don’t prefer Nutrena making your Triple Crown…
Oh wow! I hadn’t heard about this yet so thanks for the heads up.
This may explain why two of my oldies aren’t finishing their meals (although they both have had this problem in the past for no real reason). Part of their ration is TC Senior so maybe we’ve gotten some Nutrena manufactured bags in our last trip to the feed store? And they are protesting the change by not eating it!
Our feed store did tell us that they are now carrying Nutrena feed (which they never had before) but they didn’t say anything about Nutrena now manufacturing the TC which we’ve been using for years. Will have to go take a look at our bags and compare ingredients (if I can find one of the old TC bags for comparison).
I have nothing against Nutrena (used to use XTN and loved it). Only stopped because it was near impossible to get around here and the trouble just wasn’t worth it. But now I’m thinking that my guys just don’t care for whatever mixture Nutrena is using is using in their mixture of TC Senior. Crap - if that’s the case!!! Keeping these old picky guys happy (and eating well) is no easy task sometimes. :no:
Nutrena (Cargill) started manufacturing for Triple Crown about 2 years ago so this is not something that just happened recently!
There is no change in formulation or ingredients- Triple Crown provides the formulations and ingredients used must meet Triple Crown’s requirements.
If the OP sees such a difference in appearance, such as a noticeable difference in pellet size, I would not feed it and return the bag to the dealer it was purchased from.
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Nutrena (Cargill) started manufacturing for Triple Crown about 2 years ago so this is not something that just happened recently!
There is no change in formulation or ingredients- Triple Crown provides the formulations and ingredients used must meet Triple Crown’s requirements.
If the OP sees such a difference in appearance, such as a noticeable difference in pellet size, I would not feed it and return the bag to the dealer it was purchased from.[/QUOTE]
Yup - you’re right. Just looked it up and it appears that my area is included in the original changeover. I haven’t noticed any difference in the feed, other than the usual less sticky versions typically seen during the summer months.
So I guess my guys are just in one of their super picky moods and don’t feel like eating what they’re getting in their feed bowls! They are scarfing up their hay at least. Maybe I’ll just cut back a little on the TC for now and up their other rations to tweak their appetites. Gotta keep the oldies happy!
This is interesting- the pellet size difference as I’ve been feeding this for years and it’s always been a skinny pellet.
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Nutrena (Cargill) started manufacturing for Triple Crown about 2 years ago so this is not something that just happened recently!
There is no change in formulation or ingredients- Triple Crown provides the formulations and ingredients used must meet Triple Crown’s requirements.
If the OP sees such a difference in appearance, such as a noticeable difference in pellet size, I would not feed it and return the bag to the dealer it was purchased from.[/QUOTE]
This. Blue Seal used to manufacture the north east regions, that changed to Cargill.
OP, you should be having yours made by Southern States. Southern States has the manufacturer and distribution rights for their regions.
Hi Everyone! As the other posters have mentioned, this manufacturing agreement has been in place for two years now. Triple Crown does still determine their own formulas and ingredient usage. At Nutrena, we take our quality very seriously, and if you see any issues, whether on our products or the Triple Crown products, we encourage you to let us know - either by returning it to the dealer, contacting us via our website or Facebook page, or feel free to send us a PM here on the Chronicle Forum.
Thanks for your time!
Gina from Nutrena
Melelio- As indicated from other posters , you may have purchased the 30% supplement from a dealer who at one time received the product from a different manufacturer. For the state of MD, your feed should be coming from Southern States. We can find out where your bag is coming from by reading the date codes off your bag, if you do not know how to read the datecode and would like to learn please send us a private message or you can contact Triple Crown at anytime: 800-451-9916
A little info for everyone:
For various states in the NE region, dealers may be getting their feed from Cargill mills or from Southern States mills. Mills may have different manufacturing capabilities and this can include how a pellet may look, this could be why you see a size difference in the pellets. Whether Triple Crown is being manufactured by Cargill or any of our other feed manufacturers, all mills must use the same “fixed formulas” for all Triple Crown feeds. Each mill takes feed production very seriously and works very hard to produce quality products. Also, all mills must follow strict safety regulations and are consistently monitored. If at anytime you find an issue with your feed please do not hesitate to contact Triple Crown or Nutrena. Again, we can be contacted by a phone call, through our websites, via Facebook or email. We are happy to answer your questions at anytime.
Well, see, I’m not IN MD anymore. My last two bags of TC30 were from the feed store here in TX. These two newest bags are now different, but procured by the same feed dealer, one month later.
What gives, then? Something has changed. My guys still eat it, but there is a difference obviously…
Melelio- We’d be happy to look into this for you. We need the name of the store you buy from and any date codes off your bags so we can see where it is coming from and when it was made. You can reply here or give us a call at 800-451-9916. If you want to supply pictures of the feed that is also helpful to see what you are looking at.
Thank you.
Well, the pellets are skinny and long, over and inch long some of them, about 1/8" wide? Much slimmer than last two bags.
Tag reads:
94039 MN 1007
Lot: MN2142
2142
My feed store picks this up special for me somewhere else, I’m guessing in Greenville, TX? Not sure…
Melelio- thank you for the tag info. I will be passing this on to Jerral, our Texas sales rep. If you’d like to send us a PM, we’d be happy to get your personal information so that Jerral can contact you. Please also let us know the name of the store you buy from. Jerral will be happy to explain what you may be seeing and why.
Hey TCN…
I am just about to open my last bag of TC Training Formula…Yes, I’ve been hoarding it bc my horse does really well on it. What am I going to use as a substitute?? I need a fairly high octane, very high fat, low carb, low grain mix for this 9 year old Training level OTTB event horse. We’re in Maine…Thanks!
River- Does your dealer currently carry or special order in TC Complete? This formulation was just improved last year, it went from 10% fat to 12% fat and the NSC level is a little lower than training was, it is sitting about 20.6% NSC. We are recommending this feed for the switch and if you are a fan of the fish oil powder for the extra omega 3’s, customers are top dressing our fish oil powder supplement on top of TC complete or other formulations. Or you can order Triple Crown Omega Max, a stabilized ground flax seed with a 2 yr. shelf life, another palatable and wonderful source of Omega 3’s. Let us know if you have any other questions.
TCN: I recently started my horses on Senior. Your web site does not list corn as an ingredient, yet there are quite a few pieces of corn in the feed.
FWIW, I am in the Pacific North West.
Thanks !
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TCN: I recently started my horses on Senior. Your web site does not list corn as an ingredient, yet there are quite a few pieces of corn in the feed.
FWIW, I am in the Pacific North West.
Thanks ![/QUOTE]
They use corn to flush out the machines when changing the type of feed they are producing. You will sometimes find a few pieces of corn on occasion as a result. That usually means that bag was out of the first batch after the switch.
Elfe- Sorry to hear you have found some corn in your Senior. As ponysize has mentioned, corn is used to flush the machines between feed runs and when we begin manufacturing a new feed, we will discard the first few bags until we do not see anymore corn coming out, unfortunately sometimes some pieces still make it into bags. If I can get the date codes off your bag they will be passed along to the manufacturing mill so they are aware of this. The date code should be on the back of the feed tag. If you can not find a date code please let us know. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
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Nutrena (Cargill) started manufacturing for Triple Crown about 2 years ago so this is not something that just happened recently!
There is no change in formulation or ingredients- Triple Crown provides the formulations and ingredients used must meet Triple Crown’s requirements.
If the OP sees such a difference in appearance, such as a noticeable difference in pellet size, I would not feed it and return the bag to the dealer it was purchased from.[/QUOTE]
I was just about to post that Cargill had been manufacturing TC for quite a while. I was going to switch to it last year some time because I could get it from Nutrena dealer.
Bumping up an old thread… since the fact that both TC & Nutrena are manufactured in the same mill:
http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/nutrena-investigates-ionophore-tainted-horse-feed/
This is now particularly upsetting.
Can anyone offer insight on horse feeds that are NOT manufactured at the same facilities that manufacture cow feed?
Well, this is upsetting. I recently went back to feeding a bit of TC Senior to my two guys. I had been using Seminole feeds - which are manufactured in horse only facilities. The issue I have with Seminole is that their feeds are so much higher in sugar than TC feeds. I don’t want a pellet, I need a textured feed to mix with supplements. Everything textured from Seminole is in the 16 to 22 range for NSC, TC Sr. is 11.7. One of my boys came to me with IR and previous founder, so I need to keep the sugar down.
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