Triple Crown races 2024 - KY Derby (& Oaks) - Who's following?

He is mugging Forever Young, not Fierceness…who was 14 horses behind the trio fighting for the win. The track announcer apparently missed the call. It happens, especially on a smaller horse squeezed between others so you cant see the saddlecloth number.

The entire field at the top of the stretch was spread across the track like a cavalry charge in a John Ford western, that was really something.

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My apologies on using the wrong name describe that action, that’s on me.

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Something I always appreciate is when people give credit where credit is due in interviews. He credited everyone involved by first and last name. Even credited the horses by name. That speaks volumes to me.

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I think that no action was taken on either horse because they deemed them to be equally responsible for the contact. I would not be surprised if Tyler is fined though, you definitely can’t touch another horse

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It’s sounding like Forwver Young will head back to Japan & not stay for the Preakness
He came out in fairly good order, did have a cut on his leg.

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To me too. I hated the way Edzo used to refer to the horses as “the two,” “the five,” etc. I think he’s gotten better about it but those other two guys still do it. Have some respect for the horses, guys! And for us viewers too.

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Awww …! :slight_smile: And he has a cute little off-center star like @eightpondfarm’s Hazel.

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I think Tyler was shitting his pants, not that I blame him. I disagree they were equal fault—Forever Young was wanting to lean a bit on Sierra Leone but SL has no business lugging in on him like he did, so. That rider on FY has got nerves of steel though, he didn’t even seem to blink :sweat_smile:

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I agree. You hear it so much in interviews with horse professionals from all disciplines and walks of life. It grates on my nerves.

The horses have names. The people have names. They are not just “the colt,” “the [sire’s name] horse,” etc. And your people aren’t just “my groom,” “the jockey,” “my guys in the barn,” etc. If you are speaking about them, don’t objectify them or make them sound like the irrelevant supporting cast!

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He also does it without buying horses or training the kind of horses you might find at the Baffert or Pletcher barn. Thorpedo Anna is a Fast Anna while Mystik Dan is a Goldencents. Swiss Skydiver is a Daredevil and Sarava was a Wild Again. Those aren’t elite stallions.

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I understand. I once had a saddle horse who was the spitting image of Native Dancer by one of his less than stellar sons and I adored him for that. But to everyone else, he was just a cheap horse by a bad sire.

Professional TB breeders don’t refer to “cousins”. That would meaningless and I think that is what the poster was pointing out.

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They would be asking a lot of him to come in two weeks. But I think he will be back here for a race in the future–maybe even the Belmont.

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The Great and Wonderful Dr. Jane Goodall helped spearhead a campaign to refer to all animals, not just humans, by personal pronouns, who, whom, he, she, they, not inanimate ones, it, that, etc.

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It does make me cringe to listen horse show commentators like Catie Staszak consistently refer to horses as “it” when describing them as they jump around.

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Thanks for that. It was a refreshing Derby win interview. He seems like such a genuine guy.

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A friend shared and I thought this was interesting. Good race.

https://paulickreport.com/nl-art-1/how-it-works-a-look-at-the-way-judges-call-a-photo-finish?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR07L98dmWCYPwHT39S5Jdp1qkJY_589lGDcCdrnVKC5VRNoWYP80xDGq98_aem_AT61EKL_sLBg3OMaTk-uOm45Ohj7GefX_RqW2YyuQBeoUMeXvh-JIo4iKyt198qDcLcxpb5MHnpUpdZ7nMekNqE9

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In the case of my friends and me we were connecting two Thoroughbreds, a Saddlebred, and a Tennessee Walking Horse. All stablemates and all related. :slight_smile:

I cringed at that too, reading Dick Francis’s novels. “What have you got in the third race?” etc. :frowning:

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That to me is more asking about a horses bloodlines and or identifier.
I don’t find it much different than using “who”

such that the answer would be.

“I have the Jimmy Creed colt”

But I agree I don’t like the use of “it”

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I thought it was a good race. Especially since my trifecta box paid off. :smiley:

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