i have a friend who wants to get a mare covered by Unbridleds Song. does anyone know what his temperament/soundness is like? for both him and his offspring?
Notoriously brittle horses and/or very precocious and therefore raced too early too often and therefore injured.
I can’t speak to the temperment of them, the only Unbridleds Song that I know well is a breeding stallion and acts as such. He isn’t bad tempered, but not a pet either.
If your friend has the 100k to drop on the stud fee, I’m sure your friend can also speak directly to some top-notch experts and gather their opinions on him.
It’s been stated that his runners are no more fragile than any other sire, but the breakdowns have been horrific and high profile (ahem).
He gets good looking, often very talented, offspring that are capable of competing at the highest levels. As Rubyfree said, his offspring are no more fragile than any other sire’s despite the pervasive internet gossip to the contrary. Those that I have known have had good temperaments and were easy to work with.
His stud fee is actually 115K for 2010 (the 100k fee is a pay-early option) and his book is very nearly full. If your friend wants information about the horse, the best thing for her to do is call Taylor Made. I’m sure they’d be happy to tell her about him.
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If your friend has the 100k to drop on the stud fee, I’m sure your friend can also speak directly to some top-notch experts and gather their opinions on him.
It’s been stated that his runners are no more fragile than any other sire, but the breakdowns have been horrific and high profile (ahem).[/QUOTE]
What would your friend be looking to get? A racehorse (I’m assuming as much, given the cost involved) or is s/he trying for a foal for another discipline? It’s entirely possible that if the resultant offspring is allowed to mature before being asked very tough questions, the soundness problems might not come up.
You’d want a proven mare, either on the track or in the shed, for that kind of fee, and hope the market picks up over the next few years. 100K is high, and he may already have a full book for 2010, unless your friend has connections.
I could find a lot of better ways to spend $100k in the racehorse business. Your friend is crazy to spend a lot of money on a stallion like Unbridled’s Song.
she is breeding a first time mare and she wants to try and get a foal that she can bring along for eventing or lower level dressage…she already has a foal out of Master Command that she wants to bring along for eventing, so she wanted to try and get one from Unbridled’s Song…and yes the foal would be allowed to mature, she doesn’t routinely start her horses in heavy training until they’re four or five
Urrrr…she’s really going to spend $100k for an eventing/lower level dressage prospect? I mean, Master Command’s stud fee is quite a bit less. It seems to me, too, that Taylor Made may not approve the mating. Though I guess it would depend on who the mare is.
But I dunno…
I can’t help but question the wisdom of spending $115,000 on a stud fee to breed a horse for lower level dressage or eventing–especially since UBS offspring are known for their speed, not their movement or jumping ability–and there are many, many less expensive stallions who would be better suited to the task.
Nevertheless, considering how much in demand the horse is, I’d be surprised if TM would allow him to be bred to a non-racing mare.
Aw, c’mon guys…TRRRROOOOOLLLLLLL… :lol:
I am going to breed my daughter’s shetland pony to AP indy as a surprise Christmas gift.
Live cover? Ouch. That’s a surprise gift alright.
Yeah. Assuming it’s not a troll, even for RACING I’d have about ten other stallions I’d spend on before blowing $115k on Unbridled’s Song. And I’d bet a chunk of that they wouldn’t book a nonracing mare to him anyway.
I’m gonna sneek a mare into Storm Cat’s paddock in KY. He may not be really fertile, but with enough covers, I figure the odds are in my favor…:winkgrin:
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she is breeding a first time mare and she wants to try and get a foal that she can bring along for eventing or lower level dressage…she already has a foal out of Master Command that she wants to bring along for eventing, so she wanted to try and get one from Unbridled’s Song…and yes the foal would be allowed to mature, she doesn’t routinely start her horses in heavy training until they’re four or five[/QUOTE]
WA WA WA WA WHAT !!! :eek::eek::eek:
Sweet Jesus, there is a sucker born every minute of the day. I’m not eventer person, but $100k for a foal that could be more crooked than Lombard Avenue?
That’s right. Don’t be one of them.
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Do you think this is viral marketing at it’s worst?
Is anyone amused at her username?
she’s a relatively new breeder so she doesn’t know alot about sires,bloodlines etc (this is her 2nd foal she’s breeding), the mare that she wants to breed is an ex-racer turned broodmare who didn’t do a whole lot on the track…the mare herself has decent conformation/ soundness so my friend was hoping that would play into the factor a little bit. She’s also looking into The White Fox and Into Mischief. As for Unbridled’s Song, he was on her “short list” of stallions to breed to which is why she asked me to try and do some research for her
Eight Belles 134,
Unbridled Song is the most overrated sire over $50k who throws brittle horses. Gowith another option.
