It’s pretty obvious by now that the recordings
A. Probably don’t say what they are purported to say.
B. Are inadmissible because they were illegally obtained
C. Will not be used in the case.
The other thing…there is a lot of mention about cell phone videos/other video recordings….but we have never really heard a lot about them in the way we hear about the tapes and get “tidbits” about what is on the tapes and hear about how pivotal they are going to be.
The laws on illegal recordings must have some teeth to them. A woman was booked last month in NJ on a felony charge of eavesdropping. She recorded a FaceTime conversation with her mother-in-law in Fl while she herself was in NJ. It was done without her mother- in-law’s consent. (custody case I think) Florida is an all party consent state for phone conversations to be recorded. Not quite the same situation as this case but has similar elements.
Was it noticed because someone mentioned, to responding officers, that RC had one… Which was missing?
Missing because someone took the opportunity to grab it and hide it
Could someone have reported to responding officers that the gun existed (noting safety of kids on site) or was
I’m not going to speak above my knowledge. I’m more than happy to cite facts as to what has been said and what shows up on screenshots and use that to reason through and speculate about how those facts work together.
But I will say this: LK did tell the police about the recording devices and the only public record I can find for RC involving these charges is an arrest warrant issued by a police officer around two and a half months after the shooting.
The Tapes are the MacGuffin. Nobody uses tapes in the digital age.
I still find it remarkably foolish if she heard a murder plot on the recordings, that 1) she didn’t call the police, and 2) she didn’t leave immediately. Her explanation to #1 is she thought they were kidding and for #2 she says it’s a long story she can’t discuss.
ETA - since she has said they heard “the plot” and didn’t leave, doesn’t it make perfect sense that they had a plan to protect themselves when MB came to do the deed?
I’m still amazed that the police did not grasp that it was a completely crazy and out of control situation if anybody involved felt the need to sleep in front of their horse’s stall at night, whether or not the police knew about the gun. Even if the police were not that familiar with horses, that should have been a pretty big tip off that they should take it a little more seriously.
As I said earlier on this thread or a previous one, I have spent the night in a barn more than once, due to a horse’s health issue or what have you. But not because I thought the horse needed protection from another person in the barn.
A public service announcement: for anyone who thinks @Moderator_1 shows me favortism…I had 2 posts flagged yesterday that I received a warning on to edit them immediately. Actually, the posts weren’t rule breaking IMO, but rather than whine about it, I deleted the posts. Apparently there have been many others flagged that weren’t considered rule breaking. In other words I think the moderators have a tough job, especially on volatile and emotional threads like this one, and I think they do a very fair job.
Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
The fact that you even got a warning at all shows there is definitely favoritism. I’m banned from CE for way less than I’ve seen you post here.
I’m sorry. I have found the CE forum can become quite volatile so I steer clear of that forum.
I have reported many posts with curse words, ugly adjectives, name calling, hateful rhetoric - in my opinion. Some have been removed but most have not.
I think the flagging on these threads goes in circles for whatever reason, trying to ban a poster or get the thread closed. So I know I, and others, do try hard to stay within the rules of the forum.
Keep in mind I don’t think the moderators review every post on every thread. Someone has to flag the post for them to look at it. Perhaps on the CE forum there was someone flagging many of your posts.
Some posters (not referring specifically to you, eggbutt) have prided themselves on flagging posts and seem to do it constantly. YD bragged about doing it all the time.
I think I have flagged maybe 4 or 5 posts over all these years - and they have to be extremely over the top to get me to do that.
You are. Charges were not removed. However, the federal warrant may have been, had (like another poster surmised) RC or her attorney promised she would turn herself in, rather than being escorted by federal marshals to NJ. Who ever stated the charges were dropped? Please provide that post.
IIRC, the “speculation,” was, (basically) had RC made a deal to turn herself in, this could be why the warrant might be “recalled.” Charges cannot be “recalled.” Dropped, dismissed, etc…. sure. Not “recalled,” though.
If your child, relative, friend or neighbor tried to murder people, (unarmed people, who were sought out by your child/relative/friend/neighbor to be murdered) like them or not, it would make them a POS. IM’s statement, which you quoted, was exactly correct.
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Hey ya’ll! I’ve been a proud CoTH poster since 2004! No alters, same user name all that time. 
Again, you’re still alive. So he is an alleged attempted murdering POS. We have gone over this before. In order for him to have committed murder on you or your BF, you need to be dead. And you are not dead.
Sheilah
This is semantics… why are we picking on her for this too now? Does it really make MB any better of a human just because she was lucky that the first responders and medical team saved her life? Murdering POS… attempted murdering POS… the guy shot her twice in the chest so I think she can refer to him however the eff she wants to.
I forget that so many people aren’t familiar with legal matters. As LLPR posted, I didn’t make myself clear when I stated that a warrant could be recalled and that did not mean charges were recalled or dismissed. Also, some people thought it odd that charges weren’t filed against RC until October. That isn’t unusual at all. In some murder cases (no statute of limitations) detectives may or may not know who the perpetrator is, and it could be 20, 30 years or any amount of years until the investigation reveals the evidence to issue a warrant for arrest. The investigation into the handgun and where it was last legally sold may have taken some time. Although some states require registration of a handgun, many states do not. But every state requires a licensed gun dealer (FFL) to fill out an ATF form and submit the identification/application of any person purchasing a firearm. The FFL then submits the information to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) electronically or by phone. NICS performs a background check on the buyer, checking for any criminal records or any other reason a person may be ineligible to purchase a firearm. NICS is operated 17 hours a day, 7 days a week. States require various waiting periods before the purchaser takes possession of a firearm.
If any of the serial numbers were obscured on the RC handgun (as alleged in a police report), there are labs where many times they can discover those stamped numbers. If RC bought a used gun off the street or from anyone not an FFL, then it would have taken the investigators some time to run down the various owners, if at all. If it had been attempted to obscure the serial numbers by filing or any other method, the gun may have been used in a previous crime. Anyone who purchases a firearm with obscured serial numbers is an idiot, or knows they may intend to use the gun for an illegal purpose.
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