Mr. JSwan is a member of Mensa - and I thought that was pretty cool until we started getting the newsletters.
Uh - those folks ain’t so smart.
Mr. JSwan agrees; he says he’s just a good test taker and that’s how he got in. I happen to think he is a super genius though.
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GKittredge; it is indeed legal for NH residents to shoot a dog harassing or chasing livestock or humans…and their law also covers humans both riding and walking, this is current dog control laws in NH:
Same in Vermont:[/QUOTE]
Yup. You can even get $5.00 for it: [I]§ 3749. Bounty on dog killing or worrying sheep
Selectmen may offer a bounty of $5.00 for anyone killing a dog caught in the act of killing or worrying sheep.[/I]
The dog officer in my town (in which your pack hunts, GKittredge) told me, when I asked him about what exactly I should/could do when loose dogs went after my sheep, “You are entitled to do what you gotta do.”
Wrong people in control
There are a lot of organizations that started for a good cause and then the WRONG people got control…
PETA
HSUS
Most Unions
Congress _ what would Washington think today
ACLU - Takes the rights away from 1000+ to make 1 happy
and there are TONS more
You know what they say about 1 million lawyers at the bottom of the Atlantic
A GOOD START
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There are a lot of organizations that started for a good cause and then the WRONG people got control…
PETA
HSUS
Most Unions
Congress _ what would Washington think today
ACLU - Takes the rights away from 1000+ to make 1 happy
and there are TONS more
You know what they say about 1 million lawyers at the bottom of the Atlantic
A GOOD START[/QUOTE]
PETA was started by the same people who run it now. Definitely no corruption of ideals there since their goals and methods are the same as they were when they were started.
This thread has been an eye-opening education. I had no idea that PETA and HSUS did such awful things. So I guess that is the problem—not enough of us know what they do and what they stand for. How can we get the word out and put a stop to this?
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This thread has been an eye-opening education. I had no idea that PETA and HSUS did such awful things. So I guess that is the problem—not enough of us know what they do and what they stand for. How can we get the word out and put a stop to this?[/QUOTE]
The only thing you can do against them is to do what you can to keep money out of their accounts by convincing people you know not to donate to them. Equestrians only donate to HSUS because of their favorable opinion of horse owners and their stance on horse slaughter. PETA hates equestrians with a passion so you would do well to remind anyone you know who has horses of that if they are thinking about donating money. Without funding from the general public, only the most rabid devotees will be left in their ranks, and they are the ones you have to watch out for to begin with because they will use ANY MEANS to accomplish what they set out to do.
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PETA was started by the same people who run it now. Definitely no corruption of ideals there since their goals and methods are the same as they were when they were started.[/QUOTE]
I know one charter member of PETA that quit them when they became so extremists, many years ago and if I remember well told me was not the only one that left.
I received a begging letter from Castleton Ranch Horse Rescue Inc. At the foot of their letter was printed: “Proud Members American Humane Society, . . .”
Umm, no thanks.
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I donated a little to the HSUS during Katrina and now they won’t leave me alone. (That was before I knew more) When I went for training at the local ASPCA/Humane Society center, they were very specific that the were not affiliated with the national organization which provided no money for rescue centers etc. and the national org. did not have any rescue sites, spaying neutering, anything. Strictly a political organization. Odd that they keep their name. I haven’t been back…I help out at the local pound who tries very hard to maintain these animals in good atmosphere and tries very hard to rehome them. Local 4H groups etc. come to exercise and play with them. They advertise and go to the local fairs etc to promote adopting the animals. They have a nice play area for the animals. My question is…what are your thoughts on the ASPCA?
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Thanks for the link - interesting review and site.
I, for one, stopped eating “free range” chicken when I discovered that one of their favorite things to eat is puppy poo poo. Made cage cleaning time a snap when walking puppies, though.[/QUOTE]
Yep. You should see the little critters that our layers eat. A bat once disappeared in seconds in the chicken enclosure. Gross.
If you think chickens are bad - you’ve never read stories about people falling in pig pens.
I have a pet Duroc who is the nicest thing in the world - really sweet. But my 6 year old niece is NOT allowed to be alone with him.
Nature red in tooth and claw, as the saying goes. It ain’t Disney, that’s for sure!
J. Swan, you all (you especially) have made my day with your stories of life where you are. What a wonderful existence you all seem to enjoy. Hunting dogs, horses, the good country life. I’m so jealous. Stuck in the city. oh well.
As for PETA, may they all rot in hell over a slow burning fire. They truly are nothing more than a bunch of terrorists.
I admit it I have a couple of fur coats. Ranched not trapped. I am very cautious as to where and when I expose them to the public. Last Christmas we went to dinner to a very expensive restaurant in Healdsburg for their holiday dinner. Everyone dressed to the nines, the other two ladies in our group also wore furs. However one of the furs was faux. We all left in a group and were standing on the porch waiting for the boys to fetch the cars.
We were accosted by a young woman who started to scream at us for being murdering butchers. We were very shocked to say the least. Well the twit turned to the two of us wearing real fur and said “as least you have enough brains and compassion to wear faux”. Yup that would be us you twit. My friend then told her that her fur was faux, the girl called her a liar and proceeded to attempt to grab her coat. She got clocked with a lovely black beaded evening bag. (mine!) I told her that if she continued to attempt to assault my friend that I would personally dial 911 and have her arrested. Her response . . . . . . “my friends at PETA will have me out of jail in an hour”.
The boys showed up, the manager showed up, and the police showed up and the young woman was asked to leave immediately and to not ever come there again. We were asked if she touched us and she told the police that I had assaulted her. Well I sorta kinda did whack the psycho with my wittle bitty purse. I told the officer that she was grabbing for my friend and that I knocked her hand away. He was happy with that and she was escorted off the grounds.
These would be the same fools that raided the mink farm up north and set all the little minkeys free. Little did they realize that minks are extremely territorial and viscious little critters. Well after they all tore each other’s throats out a good portion of the rest were run over on the nearby highway. Yup that’s saving the day!
It appears that they take action with little consideration for the result. They have released dogs from crates at bench shows here at the Cow Palace. Causing I believe it was one dog to be killed in traffic. This was a few years ago. Security has been beefed up since then and the dogs that are crated are watched very closely.
Nothing they do seems logical to me. With all that money they bring in they could be doing some real good out there. They are in no way protecting animals.
If you are ever in Virginia, you must stop by and visit my little ghetto farm. Peanut just came in from visiting the neighbors (they grill a lot and save her a steak - the darn hound eats better than I do.) Too hot to chase bunnies.
I trained the 3 year old to tie and stand for a bath today. This proved to be easier than I thought - I should hire myself out as a Monty/Parelli type trainer. I could call myself, The Amazing Monterelli.
Livestock came in overheated this am - 3 year old Perch cross was looking a little bad - so I said - the heck with the well water - he’s getting a cold bath.
Hooked him up - forgetting I’d been too lazy to train him to tie. (Hey - it’s a 100 degrees outside - my brain was fried). Turn on the hose - forgetting that he doesn’t like cold water on his back.
Hit him with the water - horse pulls back on the tie. Looks confused for a second and then stands there quietly. I hose him down - he shakes like a dog and sighs. Untie him - put him in his stall in front of his fan. Horse goes to sleep.
Ta da! (sound of Monterelli groupies clapping and swooning)
Actually I’m lucky he’s such a sensible horse - he had every right to stomp me into a greasy spot.
Spent the afternoon chasing a mean pygmy goat and cleaning an abscess. Ug. Goat abscesses.
I’m supposed to be legging up the hunt horse. Said horse makes his sad face and scrunches closer to his fan.
Filled the pig pool with cold water. Stuck my head out of the barn this evening and the damn pig is in the water trough - NOT the pig pool. He’s just sitting on his butt looking like a little kid waiting for mommy to wash his back.
So I went out there with a cup and poured cold water on his back and asked him about his day. Yup - I’m a sucker. I love that pig.
Sure. Come visit. I’ll put you to work. My next project is chickens. Get this - I’m going to raise them and EAT them - PETA can kiss my fat butt.
Maybe I’ll make pillows out of their feathers and send them to PETA as a Christmas gift. evil snicker…
J Swan…I have got to stop by for a visit!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
yum!!
Jswan!! hmmmm…there’s gonna be an awful lotta protein at your place!! Can you share some!?? Me hungry!! Can I have some eggs!?? pretty please!!!
Hey I gotta idea!! Lets have a Peta cookout! BBQ!!! Lotsa protein!!! :winkgrin:
Lotsa meat!!!
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