Has anyone bred to him or seen him?
He has a very interesting pedigree - especially with the coveted Twist TB lines.
I know this stallion personally and see him several times a week. V’Tropez is a very serious and highly competitive stallion. He is not the type that will produce ami friendly horses, and Isauro will tell you the same thing. His offspring are much like him, freakishly talented and very serious pros horses geared for Grand prix. If you would like to know anything else, you can PM me if you would like.
Isauro is a very dear friend of mine, he rides my stallion jumping and will be standing my boy at his farm this year.
well thats a bummer - I sure love the Good Twist lines… 
Why is it a bummer? Don’t U.S. sporthorse breeders need SOMETHING, ANYTHING that can actually compete at GP level? Or are we all breeding 3’ horses?
I agree with Tri! Not a bummer at all. It is wonderful to have stallions that consistently pass incredible talent and the drive to win and compete hard. And that is exactly what V’Tropez does.
its a bummer for me because I was breeding the foal for myself and I am not going to be doing GP.
Are there any offspring that have competition records?
Yes, please. Can someone tell us what his offspring has done? The bloodlines are most enticing.
its a bummer for me because I was breeding the foal for myself and I am not going to be doing GP.
You should buy a foal not breed one.
I agree with tri on this one. Buy something that is already on the ground where you can meet the mare and maybe some siblings. Better yet, do you have any experience at all in bringing up a foal? If not, buy a quiet, unstarted 3yo from good lines with known siblings.
But yes, I too would like to know more about his offspring. I really like this stallion, but when I first inquired about him he had only a few foals on the ground. I have a mare that I think would be a super cross with him. She had a gorgeous foal by Consul last year. This little girl - at 8 months old - jumped out of her paddock over a 4’6" fence. Now I know that 1 jump - especially at that age - does not a GP jumper make, but she sure has the jump genes on both sides of her family and I have high hopes for her. V’Tropez would lighten the offspring as well.
cheekyhorse, how DO you pronounce his name, anyway???
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Tri I happen to respect some of the things you say and we are in agreement on some things but dont presume to know me or what my experience is with horses - I was merely inquiring about a Stallion as I have a nice TB mare that in terms of pedigree and type would have worked with him. I did not ask you for an opinion on whether I should be breeding or not.
There’s a full page ad in last’s weeks Chronicle for Knock Out, a WB stallion who is Olisco out of Gem Twist’s full sister. Lovely eye candy. GP lines and competitors in both him and his immediate family.
Since Isauro is not a forum visitor, I’ll have to ask him and I can let you know. But I am sure that his oldest offspring are only 4 or 5 years. I’ll be talking to him today so I can tell you later about his offspring. This stallion was not bred while he was competing unfortunatley so he only started his breeding duties after he was retired. He still looks really good and he is an old man now. He’s usually running around when I bring Pacific over for Isauro to ride. He is a very impressive stallion, and he likes to let everyone know who exactly he is. (he knows he is really quite something of a horse) He is always making big displays of his manliness in his paddock or field.
His name is pronounced Vee - Trope -aa.
I wasn’t putting down your experience with horses or anything of the sort. I was surprized at your position of looking at a proven international level GP jumper stallion and then wanting to NOT breed for a international level GP jumper. In other words, why are you looking at a stallion of calibre if you don’t want the resulting foal to be of calibre?
You are going to have the same trouble with whatever stallion you choose if you are looking at quality stallions therefor why breed? Get a foal already on the ground that is the version you want versus breeding to international stallions and getting a foal that will be too much.
Does your mare have Twist lines? You know that is one of my favorites. I’d hate to see you breed her for something less than trying for the possibility of top talent.
Last year I was interested in breeding to this stallion. I received a video which was pretty much the same info as is on the website.
I asked his history. I was told he showed in the Pulsar class in 1996 and that he did show with Candace King. But other than that I couldn’t get much info. I was also told he had no offspring other than a few not more than four years old.
But I’ve heard from others that he was used for breeding while he showed. He is an older guy so I expected that there would be horses of competition age somewhere.
I’m curious about the time line. If he stopped showing around 1999 then he has been retired for 10 years.
But if he continued to show then does anybody know where I can find competition results for this guy?
We didn’t breed to him for a number of reasons, all of which had nothing to do with the stallion. But I’d like to consider him again.
Maybe his previous owners didn’t promote him much.
Does he have foals coming in '09?
Seems like he may be off the radar screen because he doesn’t have a publicity machine on COTH.
The owner before Isauro did not use him much or promote him at all.
He was not used while competing I know this for certain - his owners at that time did not agree with breeding actively competing stallions. I’d rather not discuss on a forum so if you have specific questions I can answer some of them by PM or you should email Isauro since he is now in charge of this stallion. Thanks!
Other than that, I am pretty sure he has foals coming this year. Isauro does not have mares of his own ( other than his riding horse), but I know he was bringing V’Tropez to collect quite often last year. He just sent quite a lot of frozen semen down to Aus. and I know that he has already been bred to quite a few mares there successfully with this shipment.
I would not second guess a fellow breeder if they have rideabilty as a criteria for a stallion pick–whether one is breeding for the GP ring or the ammie ring–and whether you are breeding for yourself or sale. Breeding strictly for the GP ring–a limted number of horses make it worldwide to that palce and most folks try to breed something that will always have a place in someones barn (lets face it-we tend to not cull horses) --second many a professional does not want to deal with a diffcult horse regardless of the potential talent–and it will only be potential always until and unless you find a professional to get them around the GP ring successfully. If you can breed a talented easy horse vs a talented tough horse, probably the first is going to sell quicker.
(But regardless he looks to be a lovely fellow with tons of jump. 
I don’t think being a “pros” horse and “rideability” are the same thing. Maybe the poster who posted about him can shed some more light. My jumper mareline is VERY rideable but definately something that many ammys have trouble with simply because they can be too quick and too intuitive, meaning they can turn inside their skins at the slightest shift in rider’s weight, can and will flip their leads from weighting a seatbone and if you close your leg in front of a jump and give a big release, you better be prepared. They are what I’d call a “pros” horse and have had many a pro call them that too but it has nothing to do with how rideable they are.
What a nice looking guy!!!
((Adds him to my “to breed to” list for years to come))
