Warmblood Stallion Suggestions for a very pretty Percheron Mare

[MysticOakRanch]

I recently saw a video and couple of pics of a Draft/WB cross by Waterford (Hanoverian) - it was a 2 year old, and a lovely mover. It was a heavier type 2 year old, but well proportioned and light on its feet. I’m not sure I’d look for anything too light - you could end up with something huge bodied but too light in the bone - too divergent types don’t always make a nice “medium” offspring.

If she’s crossed well to Saddlebreds in the past, why not look for a nice, sport type Saddlebred? You know that cross works!

Edgar, here on COTH, has several Warmblood boys - you might ask him if he’s crossed any of his boys to a draft type horse…

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

I LOVE Oskar! He’d be a nice choice.

[KBC]

[QUOTE=EquineLVR;5669645]
A Fine Romance[/QUOTE]

LOVE him, I wish I had a suitable mare

[FatCatFarm]

Freestyle and Yeager were also suggested and I like both, very much but I spoke with Joe Pimental today and he himself crossed Oskar on a Percheron mare he had with spectacular results and since Oskar is 21 and not getting any younger, I think I’m going to go ahead and use him. Thank you for all the input though.

[stolensilver]

Fantastic! Looking forward to seeing photos of your foal next year.

[florida_foxhunter]

I loved this foal by our homozygous stallion, Counterclaim, out of a Percheron mare…Counterclaim is 75% TB, 16.2 and I think crosses fantasticly on a heavier mare…
(this is the black and white)

The bay pinto lovely filly is owned by Janet Wilson of Pinetop (eventing) in Thompson, GA…by Claim to Fame out of a Clydesdale/TB mare. This is a LOVELY filly who Janet says has perfect conformation and gets lots of compliments from dressage and eventing folks!! Shown here as a yearling, Janet just told me she’s even prettier as a two year old and has never had an “ugly” period!! Claim to Fame is an Oldenburg, but has a lot of TB in there and lovely refined conformation!

[Ladybug_Hill]

I am not sure how much height you need to retain but I have really wanted to see a cross out a heavy boned WB mare or a nice draft with Empire’s Power. http://empirespower.com/empirespower.htm

He has sired black too which means he is either heterozygous for agouti or negative for agouti. He adds pretty and incredible movement with correct legs and beautiful necks and toplines.

[VirginiaBred]

@Ladybug Hill

I am not sure how much height you need to retain but I have really wanted to see a cross out a heavy boned WB mare or a nice draft with Empire’s Power.

I actually would like to see that as well. I told Patti some time ago that his impact would be crossed with horse mares due to his height. I’ve seen some nice ones this year! I’d push that market a bunch if it were me. :yes:

[RiverOaksFarm]

[QUOTE=equusnight;5670106]
River Oaks, your boy is gorgeous![/QUOTE]

Thank you

FCF, good luck with Oskar!

[FatCatFarm]

@florida foxhunter;5671548

I loved this foal by our homozygous stallion, Counterclaim, out of a Percheron mare…Counterclaim is 75% TB, 16.2 and I think crosses fantasticly on a heavier mare…
(this is the black and white)

The bay pinto lovely filly is owned by Janet Wilson of Pinetop (eventing) in Thompson, GA…by Claim to Fame out of a Clydesdale/TB mare. This is a LOVELY filly who Janet says has perfect conformation and gets lots of compliments from dressage and eventing folks!! Shown here as a yearling, Janet just told me she’s even prettier as a two year old and has never had an “ugly” period!! Claim to Fame is an Oldenburg, but has a lot of TB in there and lovely refined conformation!

I really like Counterclaim too and had actually visited your website again just this past Friday considering him, but since I’m really hoping for some great dressage potential and Oskar won’t be available a whole lot longer, that persuaded me.

[FatCatFarm]

@MysticOakRanch;5671120

If she’s crossed well to Saddlebreds in the past, why not look for a nice, sport type Saddlebred? You know that cross works!

I know, if it works, don’t fix it, but I have been curious if she would also produce well with a lighter warmblood and since I have (or will) two GG’s out of her, wanted to see what I will get. She is just ten so if I want to go the Saddlebred route again, there is time.

[Windswept_Stable]

[QUOTE=VirginiaBred;5671838]
I actually would like to see that as well. I told Patti some time ago that his impact would be crossed with horse mares due to his height. I’ve seen some nice ones this year! I’d push that market a bunch if it were me. :yes:[/QUOTE]

Thank you Virginia Bred and Ladybug.
Empire’s Power has been doing the job in the pony market to upsize with great success and in the horse world to decrease size and refine.

[ise]

Why don’t you take a look at Innkeeper by Secretariat. He is now standing at Virginia Tech in VA. He’s a wonderful TB and produced a very nice elegant Oldenburg mare out of our SWB mare. He has a super personality and temperament and is also very handsome.

[westcoasteventer]

[QUOTE=MysticOakRanch;5671120]

Edgar, here on COTH, has several Warmblood boys - you might ask him if he’s crossed any of his boys to a draft type horse…[/QUOTE] Based on your criteria, I was thinking Pablo. All of the horses I’ve seen by him have been lovely, modern types of medium size and very elegant. Nothing big and heavy.

Westporte is another one to look at if you change your mind. He is mostly used for hunter breeding, but is dressage bred, and all of his offspring I’ve seen have all been lovely, elegant, good movers who are very pretty to look at.

[Nootka]

I have to ask…??? Did you use Oskar? He is a very fine boy and would LOVE to see your results :yes:

[FatCatFarm]

Not this year. It’s been dreadfully hot here and my mare actually stopped sweating two weeks prior to foaling and has been on meds since to keep her sweating. She foaled and delivered this year’s foal fine, but I spoke with Joe Pimentel and decided to try for early spring next year instead. I just don’t have the heart to put the big, black mare through another midsummer heavy pregnancy.

[acottongim]

Glad it all worked out for you! and I agree with you on the breeding end of things. I can’t even imagine having a foal in this type of heat that we’ve been having!!!

[FatCatFarm]

The foal has actually done very well. Our pastures have lots of shady oak trees and the property gradually slopes down hill, so particularly the pasture the two mares and foal are in, gets alot of shade. It’s Mom who has been having such a hard time with the heat. The colt just snoozes the day away and is active morning and evening.

Another thing I’ve noticed, the flies are not nearly as bad now as I suspect the extreme heat kills all the larvae. The gnats can be particularly bad here in spring and they get into any opening and exacerbate any wound. So at least we’re not having to contend with those in late summer. But the heat and humidity have indeed been brutal.

[FatCatFarm]

The foal has actually done very well. Our pastures have lots of shady oak trees and the property gradually slopes down hill, so particularly the pasture the two mares and foal are in, gets alot of shade. It’s Mom who has been having such a hard time with the heat. The colt just snoozes the day away and is active morning and evening.

Another thing I’ve noticed, the flies are not nearly as bad now as I suspect the extreme heat kills all the larvae. The gnats can be particularly bad here in spring and they get into any opening and exacerbate any wound. So at least we’re not having to contend with those in late summer. But the heat and humidity have indeed been brutal.

[FatCatFarm]

The foal has actually done very well. Our pastures have lots of shady oak trees and the property gradually slopes down hill, so particularly the pasture the two mares and foal are in, gets alot of shade. It’s Mom who has been having such a hard time with the heat. The colt just snoozes the day away and is active morning and evening.

Another thing I’ve noticed, the flies are not nearly as bad now as I suspect the extreme heat kills all the larvae. The gnats can be particularly bad here in spring and they get into any opening and exacerbate any wound. So at least we’re not having to contend with those in late summer. But the heat and humidity have indeed been brutal.