Warning: Reactions from Zimectrin Gold Wormer

Legal action isn’t going to help anything, they have sufficiently covered their butts. You can attempt to appeal to their sense of good will for help with the vet bills. I have never looked to see if they are on social media but in general, stating your plight on a FB page for everyone to see in a factual manner, not a vindictive manner is a good way to appeal to these types of companies since it is public. If you post something nasty they will just delete it and block you but they may keep it up and respond if you are factual.

I am sorry for your troubles, hope your mare recovers quickly. Sorry the warnings hadn’t made it to your ears before now. Please edit your post to spell ZIMECTRIN GOLD correctly so it will show up in a google search.

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Actually, Merial DOES have this as a potential side effect, so they are covered. They absolutely know about this.
Post-Approval Experience: Although not all adverse reactions are reported, the following reactions are based on voluntary post-approval drug experience reporting. There have been rare reports of swelling and irritation of the mouth, lips, and tongue following administration of ZIMECTERIN[SUP]®[/SUP]GOLD. These reactions have been transitory in nature.”

It’s not that vague a description, but either their definition of “rare” is different from mine, or they are really not getting that many official complaints about it compared to the number of tubes sold. Until the latter situation changes, they aren’t going to lift a finger, voluntarily or otherwise.

If everyone filed a complaint for every horse this happens to, THEN there might be enough incidents for the FDA to step in. You need to do that through your vet though, I think, for a complaint to have any official meaning.

And yes, blast the heck out of this on FB. Be objective about it, but be vocal.

BTW - this also happens with Eqvalan Gold, which is Merial’s Canadian product, so be sure to mention that in whatever you put out there, so any Canadian friends don’t think they’re in the clear.

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Be sure to report it to the manufacturer and/or to the FDA.

How to Report Animal Drug Side Effects and Product Problems:
https://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/SafetyHealth/ReportaProblem/ucm055305.htm

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Ah, Laurie, I’m going to have to ask you to spell that correctly :lol:

ZIMECTERIN GOLD :wink: :slight_smile:

Oops!

Hi all, I know this thread is a little old, but I ran across it after researching an experience I had yesterday with one of my mares. So I figured I should probably post it here. Here’s what happened with me yesterday. I have used other dewormers on this same mare in the past and have never had any problems until I used Zimecterin Gold.

The following is a timeline of events regarding my experience with Zimecterin Gold. I am not a veterinarian, but the treatment protocol I followed was given based on orders of a veterinarian I was in telephone contact with throughout the day.

00:00 — I administer Zimecterin Gold to two horses, both of them Arabian mares.

00:10 — Approximately 10 minutes after administration, mare #2 begins experiencing tongue swelling, obvious mouth distress, and profuse drooling of mucus-like saliva. She also appears generally lethargic. She will not eat. Mare #1 is fine.

00:45 — I contact my veterinarian for advice approximately 45 minutes after symptoms begin. I administer 2 grams of phenylbutazone paste via oral route. However, due to swallowing difficulties, she ends up spitting probably half of it back out. I continue to observe her for the next 2 hours. There is no sign that she’s getting any worse, but also no sign of any improvement. I consider giving epinephrine, but decide against it since there is no sign of breathing distress or other indications that this reaction is life threatening. Furthermore, she appears stable, even though she is not improving. She lays down a couple of times, but does not roll, kick, or bite, So I don’t think there is any colic involved.

02:00 — Approximately two hours into the episode, I contact Merial, (the company that makes Zimecterin Gold.) The technician I speak to there informs me that they have had rare reports of this happening, that she should be fine by the afternoon, and repeats the same advice the vet gave me (give her phenylbutazone). She gives me a case number and says she will follow up with me later that evening to check on how the mare is doing.

02:45 — Two hours after the phenylbutazone, she is not showing any improvement, but neither is she getting any worse, so I continue to refrain from giving epinephrine. I contact my veterinarian again for advice. I administer 10 cc of dexamethasone 2mg/ml via IM injection.

03:45 — Approximately 1 hour after dexamethasone injection, her condition begins to improve significantly. She is no longer drooling and she is starting to eat. Her tongue no longer appears swollen. But she still has obvious mouth discomfort. I continue to observe her. Mare #1 remains fine and has had no reaction at all to the Zimecterin Gold.

04:45 — Approximately two hours after dexamethasone injection, she is eating relatively normally, but still slowly due to what I assume is residual mouth discomfort. I believe the dexamethasone stopped the acute reaction, but she is still suffering from residual pain. I continue to keep an eye on her.

20:00 — Approximately 20 hours after the acute reaction began, she seems to be doing fine. She is eating normally and appears to have little to no mouth discomfort anymore. Mare #1 never had any reaction at all.

As of now, everything seems okay. Merial never actually followed up with me, despite their claim that they would. Again, I’ve used other dewormers before on this same horse and never had any reactions.

I don’t know how common or rare these reactions are, but I figured I should share what happened and what I did to deal with it. It definitely seems like there is still a problem with this particular dewormer that the company has not addressed. Needless to say, I will not be using Zimecterin Gold on any of my horses again.

I hope this helps someone.

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I would call Merial back and ask to speak to their technical services veterinarian and inquire whether they will be filing an adverse drug experience report.

The only way something will change is if enough people report the problems. (Not directed at you CL Moonriver, just a general statement.)

https://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/safetyhealth/reportaproblem/ucm055305.htm

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  • [B]For an FDA-approved product[/B], we recommend calling the drug company to report the adverse drug experience or product defect. The drug company responsible for the approved product(s) is required to submit reports of adverse drug experiences and product defects to FDA. The drug company's phone number can usually be found on the product's labeling. When you call the drug company, you can tell them that you wish to report an adverse drug experience or product defect and ask to speak to a technical services veterinarian. The technical services veterinarian will likely ask you a series of questions about the event, will complete an adverse drug experience reporting form, and will forward the report to the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine (CVM). The technical services veterinarian may also contact the veterinarian who treated your pet to obtain more information about the adverse drug experience. [/LIST]
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    It absolutely will, thank you for sharing these details! The more people share, the more people will find stories when they doubt things and start searching.

    Don’t be afraid to ask your vet for help too. I don’t know if she’s actually able to do anything since she didn’t personally see the horse, but it doesn’t hurt to ask.

    Yep, these things have to be followed up on like nobody’s business. Clearly Merial doesn’t care, there aren’t enough incidents to really affect their bottom line. But I am SURE there have been enough of these that if they were all seen together, it would be significant enough to pressure them into doing something.

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    I totally agree, and I intend on filing my own report with the FDA. I know the law requires Merial to inform the FDA of any adverse reaction reports they get. But I’m not confident Merial actually will do so. So either way, I’m filing my own report with the FDA.

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    You’re welcome. I’m glad it helps. Also, of course, if there’s a side lesson to be learned here, I think it should be that every horse owner should keep a bottle of dexamethasone on hand, as well as epinephrine, if you can get it. There seems to be a nation-wide shortage (at least in America) of epinephrine right now and it’s very hard to get for animal use. That’s another reason I didn’t use it in this case. I figured I needed to conserve the epinephrine I do have for true emergencies, since it’s very hard to get right now. Dex is easy to get though.

    Given the area I live in, (very rural) it’s often tough to find vets willing to come out here. And loading horses into a trailer and taking them to a vet 30 minutes away when they are in a crisis state is problematic in and of itself. So yeah, knowing how to give injections myself and having basic emergency medicine on hand is a necessity here.

    For any horse owners out there who have never given a vaccine? I’d encourage you too learn how. It’s not hard, and it could save your horse’s life some day in an emergency. of course, standard disclaimer and all. No one should give any vaccine without veterinary advice. But yeah, at least where I live, emergency vet calls are very hit or miss. Much more reliable to be able to talk to a vet on the phone and just follow their instructions.

    Sorry you had this experience. I’d have been back on the phone with the vet immediately after the failed bute paste attempt. Not quite sure why he/she recommended giving the medication orally when you had the dex, but I’m no vet.

    I’m pretty sure it costs Merial less to pay out for anyone who aggressively pursues them for injury done to horses that react to ZG than to pay up to reformulate the carrier for the Zimecterin Gold. It will probably never happen.

    Yep, for sure, which is why it’s important that every single person who has this happen, file a report. If you’ve got a dozen horses and 8 reacted (happened to a friend), then file 8 separate complaints, and be rabid about following them through. That’s the only way this will change.

    For Canadian friends - Eqvalan Gold is the same thing. Avoid it.

    Thank you for this timely thread! I am close to deworming time, and will absolutely not use Eqvalan Gold. Will consult with my vet on a better option for tapes and bots, (bot flies were horrible this year!) Have used it in the past with no issue, but now I know better! Would hate to put the horses at risk.

    If my horse has not reacted to this product in the past, should I feel safe continuing to use it with him, or is it recommended that everyone discontinue use?

    I don’t know if Canada has the equivalent of Equimax but if they do (Bimeda instead of Merial) use that.

    Otherwise you can do an ivermectin + double pyrante pamoate and affect the same thing

    For the most part, nobody has an issue until they do, so… :wink: Personally? I boycott it. Period. Equimax will do the same thing with a very, very very rare exception, which can be said of any chemical.

    Merial doesn’t pay anything; the general liability insurance carrier would review the claim and decide whether or not to pay.

    I told the vet I had both, and since she was stable, not getting any worse, and the reaction didn’t seem life-threatening (heart rate was stable, no eye swelling, no breathing difficulties), he told me to try the bute first and call back in two hours if she wasn’t improving. So yeah, after two hours of no improvement, but no worsening I gave the dex. I also wouldn’t say the bute paste attempt failed. She did swallow some of it, I just wasn’t sure how much. I’m pretty sure she got at least a gram, though. Knowing she had gotten at least some bute, but not being sure how much, I was hesitant to give dex right on top of it.

    Also, I’d never used dex ion this mare before, and although rare, anaphylactic reactions to dex are not unheard of. I don’t like to give steroid injections unless I absolutely have to, especially not in doses that high on horses I’ve never used them on before. (And especially not when I only have one dose of epinephrine available and can’t get any more right now because of a nation-wide shortage.)

    I suspect that was why the vet suggested bute and and then waiting two hours. She was stable, not in immediate danger, and there was no indication things were getting worse. So might as well try the most conservative approach first.

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    IIRC USDA/FDA maintains an “adverse reaction” data base. You might want to look at that.

    G.

    Since this incident happened on November 1st, I’ve read several reports from people who who have used it for years in a horse with no problems, only to have the horse suddenly react to it after a dose. So it does seem reactions can happen even in horses where it has been used safely for years. Personally, I will not be using it on any horses anymore. Not even on horses I have used it with in the past and who have never reacted.

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