I’m dating myself here and it has been awhile since I’ve seen stallion ads but whatever happened with Loyal Pal and Lucky Boy?
I do know studs do retire and some just fall out of fashion.
So I was curious to know what the flavor du jour is now for sport horse TB sires.
I love looking at pedigrees although I know very little about them.
TIA
Here in France … nothing !
Just one (very) good horse (stallion to be), winner of the stallion approbation for 2 years old (2014) and 3-years-old (2015). His sire is Network, a German stallion well known in hurdle-racing (one of the best).
Over all, noone wants to breed to a TB-sire because the (male) offsprings are hard to sell and most don’t have the quality to be stallion …
Guaranteed Gold who I owned for many years, is now owned by Silver Sky Farms in WA and continues to be as popular as ever and well supported!
Noble Houston I was always a big fan of, but no idea if he is still alive or standing anywhere …
Arctic Blue I adore, at Stonehouse Meadows Sporthorses in CA - he is a 16.3hh black based, all white son of the Panoramic stallion I used to own. He is a phenomenal mover and an extremely athletic jumper. I keep telling his owner (Jen Tarr) that she really needs to promote him better and get the word out on him as he is a really incredible stallion!
http://stonehousemeadows.com/stallions.html
That should give you a few to look into!
If anyone does know anything about Noble Houston and where he is, please let us know. Thank you!
Thanks for posting True.
I admire your horses very much. I am not a fan of pintos but yours are truly special because you bred for the whole package and not just color.
Well, there are some in the US but the best are retired, A Fine Romance among them -
there is Salute The Truth, Sea Accounts, Sea Lion
One poster has a promising TB in Denmark (I think?) named Spirit Lake who looks like he may be something special once he gets a competition record under his belt.
This may be worth a read:
http://www.morningside-stud.com/A_CRITICAL_SHORTAGE_OF_BLOOD.pdf
The problem is there just aren’t that many folks perpetuating thoroughbred breeding for sport anymore. The entire breed has somewhat fallen out of fashion for competition. The remaining market is mostly the OTTB crowd, on an OTTB budget. You can more or less count the successful TB sporthorse sires of recent times on your fingers, as you can see from the limited number of stallions named on this thread.
The flavor du jour is racing lines that have a good reputation for sport… although even those well-regarded lines have reached a point where they are far back in a pedigree.
I’m curious to see who rises up as the “next generation.” My money is currently on Giants Causeway, Kitten’s Joy, Galileo, Medaglia D’Oro, Smart Strike… but that is my opinion based on nothing but my experiences with sons/daughters racing who seemed to have real sport ability and the fact that all have had enough popularity so that they will eventually “trickle down” to the sport market.
Thanks for posting True.
I admire your horses very much. I am not a fan of pintos but yours are truly special because you bred for the whole package and not just color.
Thanks very much! 
The problem is there just aren’t that many folks perpetuating thoroughbred breeding for sport anymore. The entire breed has somewhat fallen out of fashion for competition.
I respectfully disagree, especially in the last 2-4 years … yes, the straight OTTB TB’s DID “fall out of fashion” for a bit and the sale pages were full of free ones, or virtually free ones at $1000.00 + - that had “0” wrong with them. They simply couldn’t run fast enough to be competitive race horses! Look at the sale pages now of the nice young TB prospects, and the ones with show miles. Their prices are literally identical to their WB and their WB cross counterparts
Perhaps the STRAIGHT TB wont find its way back into a strong and prominent position in the mainstream show barns (mostly because of misplaced trainer bias and nothing else … ), but the TB/WB crosses will become the norm as the Ammies get older and realize they don’t want the work of motivating, engaging and packaging a large framed, tall, older style WB - they prefer and can better ride the lighter, more elegant TB cross. So … the long held belief by the European breeders is to “put the blood on top” and not on the bottom, whereas the North American breeders have always tended to do the opposite (probably because we have such a huge abundance of TB mares on this continent at our disposal!). There are many North American breeders that still subscribe to the European model - and they find the nicest WB mares they can and put them to “Sport Type” TB stallions and produce a slightly different “type” than the WB stallions to the TB mares …
You can more or less count the successful TB sporthorse sires of recent times on your fingers, as you can see from the limited number of stallions named on this thread.
Hogwash … 
… this thread was started on Friday. Its only Sunday and its March Break. Many people simply have different things to do relating to family than sitting on the board responding to threads … I’ll be happy to put more names forward later on once I have a few minutes to do so …
Did the Tarr’s move? They were in Colorado, not California. The website still lists CO…
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I’m dating myself here and it has been awhile since I’ve seen stallion ads but whatever happened with Loyal Pal and Lucky Boy?
TIA[/QUOTE]
I just ran across a 14yo mare by Loyal Pal out of a Best of Luck daughter. I didn’t really expect to find Loyal Pal in a hunter bred horse, but maybe that’s where her bravery came from. Stepped right off the trailer and jumped around a little course after not having had a regular job in quite a while.
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Hogwash … … this thread was started on Friday. Its only Sunday and its March Break. Many people simply have different things to do relating to family than sitting on the board responding to threads … I’ll be happy to put more names forward later on once I have a few minutes to do so … :)[/QUOTE]
Still waiting on everyone to jump in with all of those successful thoroughbred sporthorse stallions. :lol:
I say this tongue in cheek. Not trying to be snarky.
I have the utmost respect for you, TrueColours. And I agree with you that quality sport TBs sell for as much as their counterparts in other breeds. But even in my own lifetime I’ve watched the TB’s presence in sport wither to a fraction of what it used to be. Even their contribution to WB and WB crosses has continued to fall further and further back in the pedigree, as the WB registries on the whole have shifted to a more light style of modern riding horse.
I know you are in Ontario-- this is just my own perspective, but Canada does seem to have a larger number of TB sporthorse-specific breeders than the United States, which might be why we see things so differently. But that could be totally wrong… it just seems like the majority of TB sporthorse breeders I am aware of are in Canada these days.
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Innkeeper
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Coconut Grove
A Fine Romance has produced successful get. He also has a son that is a prospect.
I am sure I am missing a few. Posted with link to bloodlines
Beowulf thank you for thinking of my guy. He is in The Netherlands.
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Well, there are some in the US but the best are retired, A Fine Romance among them -
there is Salute The Truth, Sea Accounts, Sea Lion
One poster has a promising TB in Denmark (I think?) named Spirit Lake who looks like he may be something special once he gets a competition record under his belt.
This may be worth a read:
http://www.morningside-stud.com/A_CRITICAL_SHORTAGE_OF_BLOOD.pdf[/QUOTE]
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Salute the Truth
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Innkeeper
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Coconut Grove
A Fine Romance has produced successful get. He also has a son that is a prospect.
I am sure I am missing a few. Posted with link to bloodlines[/QUOTE]
And four of those had already been mentioned by other posters.
I’m not trying to be an ass or be anti-thoroughbred. I LOVE thoroughbreds. Thoroughbreds are my preferred breed of choice, no matter what the discipline.
My statement was that there are not many people breeding TBs for sport and there are not that many strictly sport TB sires out there anymore. I was told that statement was “Hogwash.” I don’t think it is, but it’s also nothing but my personal opinion. But I’d like to point out that we’re already repeating ourselves in this conversation when trying to name today’s TB sport sires.
Innkeeper is one of my personal favorite TBs of all time. The MARE center still lists him, but I do wonder if he’s still actually breeding at his age or if they just have semen.
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Salute the Truth
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Innkeeper
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Coconut Grove
A Fine Romance has produced successful get. He also has a son that is a prospect.
I am sure I am missing a few. Posted with link to bloodlines[/QUOTE]
Some day I would love to have a Sea Accounts of Salute The Truth baby, I really like them both.
A few others that have been discussed at various times (but unsure if they’re still standing) are:
Lanciano, in Alberta.
Default, in Virginia.
Rather Well, in Quebec.
Mystic Replica, in Pennsylvania.
There are also some regional racing sires that are very interesting, and should be popular, but probably under used and/or totally unknown to most sport people…I have been VERY impressed with the Oliver’s Twist get that I’ve seen.
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A Fine Romance has produced successful get. He also has a son that is a prospect.
I am sure I am missing a few. Posted with link to bloodlines[/QUOTE]
Thank you very much for mentioning A Fine Romance, Nootka.
He has done exceptionally well as a sport horse sire, with a number of UL eventers, including one, A Little Romance, who was selected for WEG and has qualified for Rio!
He has also sired numerous successful hunters, dressage horses, and jumpers (including a winning full TB Grand Prix jumper).
He is retired now from active breeding, but is still happy and healthy at 25.
Many more youngsters are still on their way up, so we have more success in the show ring to look forward to for many years.
Fred, do share–does AFR have a stallion son coming up through the ranks? :yes:
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There are also some regional racing sires that are very interesting, and should be popular, but probably under used and/or totally unknown to most sport people…I have been VERY impressed with the Oliver’s Twist get that I’ve seen.[/QUOTE]
I’ve always liked the look of him.
On the east coast, Harry The Hat and Louis Quatorze are two whose progeny show up in hunter/jumper and eventing with above average frequency. Especially the hunter breeding stuff.
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I’ve always liked the look of him.
On the east coast, Harry The Hat and Louis Quatorze are two whose progeny show up in hunter/jumper and eventing with above average frequency. Especially the hunter breeding stuff.[/QUOTE]
Louis Quatorze throws unusually good looking horses. I had one and he had enough personality for six ponies - he was wonderful. I’ve always been able to tell a LQ horse right away - they just have a look to them.
He’s apparently throwing sound race horses, though my guy battled soundness issues his entire life.
LQ has a lot of horses that trickle down from Finger Lakes reliably, so you see a lot of him in the NE.
I’ve said it before, but Say Florida Sandy is something really special and if you see a horse by him I suggest snapping them up if it’s realistic… They’re all the same, big, quiet, bay… Look of eagles type with thick limbs, exactly the type of TB you want on XC.
When a while ago I said similar things people are saying here, I got a rather hefty attack: http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?481613-Elles-s-TB-is-now-AES-approved/page10
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