Menu

Stay in Touch
Sign up for ENews
Subscribe Now

Unlimited access >

Menu

What bloodlines specifically do you like to see in your TB sporthorse?

Sport Horse Breeding
#121

[QUOTE=Rubyfree;6444643]
Bumping this fun thread up. I had a gorgeous, talented grandson of Lyphard that I adored. Horse was dumb as a post but endearingly so. I’d love to hear more about his distant relatives and learn if this particular, uh, quirk was common. :lol:

What the heck, here’s his pedigree…

Holderman

I’ve tried to relocate this guy on and off for ages. Probably gone by now.

I’m no guru but like others love to study the pedigrees of the horses that catch my eye… I fall for Wild Again descendants pretty frequently.[/QUOTE]

RubyFree, I just sold my Lyphard Great Grandson after an epic year eventing. He was and is a solid Training level eventer, took me from BN to T in one year and if it wasnt for his well used stifles and classic TB feet :cry:, he would have taken me to Prelim or beyond. He is catty as they come, honest and has never dropped a rail. Lovely SUPERCUTE mover, fantastic little horse 15h2 maybe, flashy bay. Love him to pieces, so does the new Pony Clubber that has him now.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/frosty+delight

#122

Well, the vet just left and this lovely mare is still in foal (81 days)

www.pedigreequery.com/trinity+creek

to A Fine Romance

www.pedigreequery.com/a+fine+romance

I am very keen on the pedigrees of both of these, and very excited about their potential foal. I don’t want to get my hopes up too much, but…

#123

OK, what if a mare is heavily line-bred to Turn-To? There’s a mare up for adoption at a local rescue that has Turn-To three times on top, all in 5th generation, and once on bottom, also in 5th gen. Is this “too much of a good thing”, or do you think the blood is far enough back that it probably doesn’t make a difference? Would she be a good candidate for use in sport breeding, or would an opinion need to be based more on her movement? (and conformation, of course.) If this will help form an opinion, here’s her pedigree: http://www.pedigreequery.com/alivie

#124

Just chiming in from the UK - as always, I find these threads absolutely fascinating and an amazing education.

I have this stallion standing near me, and I’m considering using him next year for my ISH mare. He is very little known in the UK, partly because (of course) he’s natural cover only, but also because he’s scarcely been marketed. I’d be interested in your thoughts on his pedigree - he is a lovely chap in himself, temperament to die for, and apparently (I haven’t seen it) an impressive jump on him. He does carry a number of the names mentioned on this thread.

http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?z=MgbCzF&d=hever+golf+ranger&sex=&color=&dog_breed=any&birthyear=&birthland=

#125

[QUOTE=realrush89;6511395]
OK, what if a mare is heavily line-bred to Turn-To? There’s a mare up for adoption at a local rescue that has Turn-To three times on top, all in 5th generation, and once on bottom, also in 5th gen. Is this “too much of a good thing”, or do you think the blood is far enough back that it probably doesn’t make a difference? Would she be a good candidate for use in sport breeding, or would an opinion need to be based more on her movement? (and conformation, of course.) If this will help form an opinion, here’s her pedigree: http://www.pedigreequery.com/alivie[/QUOTE]

There is a lot to like in that pedigree for sport – Ack Ack, In Reality, Halo. The heavy Turn-To does not bother me personally. But her movement and conformation do matter a lot, I would not breed her (or any horse) without both.

#126

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/blackberry+brandy
This is the pedigree for my foundation broodmare. I really liked her TB pedigree and she was a great producer. She had several premium foals and most placed well at DAD. Her daughter has also been a great broodmare.

#127

Oddly enough, Turn-To was rather infamous for passing on bad underpinnings. I’ve forgotten, and will need to do some research, exactly what it was about his legs and/or feet that gave TB experts pause; but this far down the pike, it’s likely been bred out of most Turn-Tos. However, when you have as much linebreeding to him as is in this mare, you do run the risk of such traits popping back up.

BTW, I just read something that said Best Turn was 17.2 hands high. His son, Cox’s Ridge was over 17 hands. Apparently excessive height can pop up in Turn-Tos.

#128

Very nice type. Does he move well?–he is certainly built for a decent jump. Looks like a lot of older blood up close. Was he a turf horse?

#129

http://www.pedigreequery.com/nasiriya2

I bought this one as an unbroke 6 year, based largely on the fact that his pedigree made me smile. He is big boned, big moving, sweet, not spooky and a gentlemen. Pedigree matters, people! :slight_smile: Haha.

I also owned Mininsky as a broodmare: http://www.pedigreequery.com/mininsky

She was a ring hunter locally but also used as a whip horse in the hunt field. Great mind, fantastic jump and a gorgeous mover.

Both had names, up close, that I just love to see: Sadlers Wells, Blushing Groom, Nasrullah, Sir Ivor, Nijinsky II

#130

[QUOTE=zelensky;6511430]
Just chiming in from the UK - as always, I find these threads absolutely fascinating and an amazing education.

I have this stallion standing near me, and I’m considering using him next year for my ISH mare. He is very little known in the UK, partly because (of course) he’s natural cover only, but also because he’s scarcely been marketed. I’d be interested in your thoughts on his pedigree - he is a lovely chap in himself, temperament to die for, and apparently (I haven’t seen it) an impressive jump on him. He does carry a number of the names mentioned on this thread.

http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?z=MgbCzF&d=hever+golf+ranger&sex=&color=&dog_breed=any&birthyear=&birthland=[/QUOTE]

Lovely horse,zelensky. :yes:

#131

This lady is my small hope of creating a personal sporthorse line if I ever do actually make it out into the big world of horses (beyond the backyard):

http://www.pedigreequery.com/fuhrbee

And when I’m busy day dreaming, I often wonder what a cross on this would produce: http://www.pedigreequery.com/missed+his+date

Note I am an admitted dreamer, so please don’t take the breeding part all that seriously, thanks! (I’m just slightly heart broken the Double Jay/Balladier line is disappearing. That’s all.) I secretly enjoy finding interesting stallions, just because I enjoy pedigrees that much, like this guy, http://www.gentryfarmthoroughbreds.com/ourstallion.cfm :slight_smile: He didn’t do squat in the racing world, but he has an interesting, athletic “look” to him.

ETA: To be more specific, Danzig has really grown on me recently as a decent line (in spite of the ND influence) and my all time favorite is Double Jay closely followed by Princequillo.

#132

My Waquoit mare http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?d=Cinamazing has been a great producer. She’s stocky and possibly 16hh and both her foals were taller improvements on her although I don’t think she’s too shabby, herself :slight_smile: Both offspring are hunter/jumpers that move very nicely, too. Most important: Temperaments to die for, all round.

I briefly had one destined to be a broodie here that I was pretty excited about. Her sire lines were Mr P / Briartic / Hasty Road, out of a Dynaformer / Runaway Groom / First Landing dam. (Don’t want to get any more specific than that!) No sooner had she arrived at our farm when she set about systematically trying to kill me, my husband and our vet at every opportunity. It became such that we didn’t have time to recover between injuries. Finally, after a simple episode (cleaning her feet) sent me to hospital with sprains, a broken coccyx and concussion it just wasn’t worth trying to push through her nonsense anymore and she was shipped straight back to her previous owner.

Broad strokes, exceptions, etc acknowledged but my ‘take home’ lesson: TEMPERAMENT. After that, everything else is important!:yes:

#133

[QUOTE=vineyridge;6511904]
Oddly enough, Turn-To was rather infamous for passing on bad underpinnings. I’ve forgotten, and will need to do some research, exactly what it was about his legs and/or feet that gave TB experts pause; but this far down the pike, it’s likely been bred out of most Turn-Tos. However, when you have as much linebreeding to him as is in this mare, you do run the risk of such traits popping back up.

BTW, I just read something that said Best Turn was 17.2 hands high. His son, Cox’s Ridge was over 17 hands. Apparently excessive height can pop up in Turn-Tos.[/QUOTE]

the horses that I came into contact with were all Turn-to and all excessive in height.

I have a great example.

this is a 4 year old mare (pic taken March of her 4th year):
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p189/xckaboom/turnto.jpg

Every single one of them were at 17h. This one was slightly larger at 4 years of age.

#134

[QUOTE=Vermilion;6515653]

ETA: To be more specific, Danzig has really grown on me recently as a decent line (in spite of the ND influence) and my all time favorite is Double Jay closely followed by Princequillo.[/QUOTE]

I’m a fan of Double Jay and Princequillo as well. :yes:

Re the mare with all the Turn-To, it is pretty far back, and would be another generation back in the offspring- so I would not be overly concerned, but it is something to consider. As always, would want to look closely at the individual herself.

#135

[QUOTE=Simkie;6421877]
Tail male to Ribot in a 2005?! Holy shit! Don’t see that very often–love it!

I’ll let Viney go through this page–I suspect she’ll really like it!–but there’s nothing not to like about it. Where did you FIND this horse?[/QUOTE]

How about this guy, just found and saved at New Holland on Monday. http://www.pedigreequery.com/dancing+valiant

#136

DAMN, what a nice pedigree! Who saved him and where is he?

#137

I have three here that we are totally in love with.
The first is a big, bold mare, very athletic. She’s my dressage mount. http://www.pedigreequery.com/adelaides+prospect
She’d be the one we’d breed, if we ever felt the need to:D

Second mare is http://www.pedigreequery.com/silent+reflection2
Sweetest horse out there, she’s our hunter mount. She’s the one we show off when people want to see how quiet and cool these OTTB’s can be. And she has a jump to die for!
The last is our gelding…he too is very athletic and also has a great mind, good sense of humour and fun to ride. He’s be best suited to eventing or jumper.http://www.pedigreequery.com/oughta+be+a+jet

Two were bought sight unseen, via coth and finger lakes finests. Jet was seen in person, also a fingerlakes finest.
We’re very happy with all three, and each have very different blood lines.

#138

My stereotypical chestnut TB mare. I don’t know if there is a lot to like in her pedigree, but she sure is nice to look at in my biased opinion and is athletic to boot.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/frankies+kismet

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2306466180051503547sSjwSL?vhost=pets

If you look at other pictures - I have a confo pic of her at 3 and 5 y/o as well, it’s amazing how they change.

#139

[QUOTE=vineyridge;6517196]
DAMN, what a nice pedigree! Who saved him and where is he?[/QUOTE]
A lady from Spencer, NY bought him at New Holland. My vet told me about him, he is going to a friend as a hunter prospect.

#140

Th![](s is an interesting thread. I’m hoping I can get some opinions - good, bad or indifferent.

I have a 2 y/o I’m trying to sell fairly inexpensively. His sire (Sheikhs Legacy) isn’t listed - but sires sire: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sheikh+albadou
Sire’s dam: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/prospectors+queen
Dams sire: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/proven+jade

He’s a nice horse, moves nicely - a little bit of an odd personality, somewhat standoffish, smart - all in all a nice little guy. About 15.2 at 2 y/o, should mature around 16.1 I think.

Hopefully this pic will work: [IMG]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/cindyb59/FinnJuly272012003.jpg)

Anything jump out at anyone?

Get your Digital Subscription here - only $29.99 / year

Subscribe here
See gift options

Sign up to our monthly newsletter!

By submitting your email, you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. You may also receive promotional emails from The Chronicle of the Horse. You can opt out at any time.

Copyright © 2023 The Chronicle of the Horse