But not enough of them, in my experience. Lots want them fancy, others are convinced by their trainers they need the fancy. Honestly a good QH that isn’t too downhill, or a solid Clyde x TB with a great brain are probably the perfect ride for 95% of us
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Yabbut,
You are a really good and well educated rider and trainer. You trained and showed to GP. You know how to develop an off breed WAY better than most people on this forum. Your “Inconsistent” riding is very different from the average ammie! You are a really good and accomplished rider! I know because I’ve watched you in person on different horses. You clean up, woman.
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That site is wild haha. 75k for a 16yo mare… hmm. No height, no video, not even a decent conformation shot, but thank god they gave us this:
Looks 10
Pedigree 9.5
Gaits 10
Temperament 9
Age 8.5
Outside Riding 9.5
Training 9
Health/Hooves 7.5
Talent 9
Potential 9TOTAL: 91
Erm… how very scientific of them. 
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That’s a brillant way to sell at 16 year old for 75k!
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“Potential”??? 
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Potential to be retired fairly soon.
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Speaking of what a horse is worth…
I think Parelli’s $125,000 Dream Horse is speshul. Allegedly it’s a cutting horse, but no information if it’s actually trained for that or if it’s won any money. Added bonus: he has the potential to be a “long term notorious stallion.”
That’s what I want. A notorious stallion. 
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Notorious? I am thinking that word means something different than what they think it does.
Laugh.
I most certainly do not want a horse that is notorious for anything.
On the 75k 16yo mare - what do you suppose the low score of the list, the 7.5 for health and hooves means? How much potential can a horse have if their health and hooves are only a 7.5? Oh wait. So what that it is lame for the rest of its life, if it was not lame it is fancy enough that it could have done X, Y, and Z, that must be what they mean?
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How about infamous?
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I’ll take a wild guess and say it has some “health” (soundness) issues going on in ye olde “hooves”. Perhaps even of the navicular variety. So maybe the mare needs special shoeing and/or meds. At any rate, I’d love to hear how the health/hoof information is explained, especially in Parelli Speak.
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I’m really enjoying that “performance” is misspelled in that link. True chef’s kiss moment.
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And she’s fat as a cow. That’s the other thing that amazes me about these high dollar sales horses. FAT. Laminitis written all over them.
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“Breathtakingly gorgeous.”
Just goes to prove the old adage that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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@Paint_Party @trubandloki, you are both looking at this all wrong. 7.5 out of 10 is like a 75% in dressage (where this thread is posted). A 75% isn’t going to win you an Olympic medal but hey, in all other venues, that’s a really good score!! That will win you a Regional Championship at upper levels! So, her health and hooves must be on the Regional Championship level but not the Olympic level. And her age scores a 8.5. That’s 85%!!! Are you questioning Pat? ??
Come on! Her “Looks” are a 10 which is why the add mostly features pictures of her face and eyes. The millionaires these days think nothing of paying $75K for a beautiful retiree that they can look at. It’s all the rage these days.
(do I need to include the backslash and letter?)
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I think you may be on to something, It does sort of resemble a score sheet. How original.
How can a horse be labeled an introvert? Assigning a Jungian concept to a horse? Do they take a Myers-Briggs test or something? And why would an introvert be judged as family friendly?*
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OK, OK, I do know some ex-Parelli peeps and can sort of answer this.
An extrovert is a horse that is outgoing, social (even with people) , questions you when you teach new things or just accepts things when you teach new things. They will actively let you know when they are pleased and displeased with training, handling, etc. An introvert is not particularly outgoing, not particularly social with other horses or humans, not crazy easy to teach new things to because they don’t particularly want to accept new things. They let issues mentally fester and are stoic. I likely don’t have this correct but I’ve had it explained to me in the past and it made some sense with horse behavior.
Parelli has a whole system to “label” right and left brained horses ( “emotional” or spooky horses versus “logical” and confident horses) and extrovert versus introvert horses. I don’t understand it well but I’m sure you can google it to understand how he classifies horses and decide for yourself.
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So that 16 yo mare is a family friendly introvert. Well that makes sense!
I do not like advertising the stallion “Drop Dead Gorgeous.” That just seems like bad juju in a horse sale.
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You can win big bucks in some of those classes. Some of those “ranch” horses you see at those auctions have earnings well into the 6 figures. Now I don’t know if this mare does but I know I’ve seen some older mares at auction that have won over $200k and they went for a lot of money.
But in relation to what? What does that score even mean?!?
Why yes, yes I am! 
Parelli has developed a majickal scoring system. It’s called Horsenality. And I’m sure it’s based on demonstrable equine behavioral science and not a highly researched marketing strategy. Because that’s the Parelli way.
Because those are the horses that avoid confrontation at family gatherings. Like, rather than engage in political or religious discussions, or whether or not it’s time to stage an intervention for cousin Charlie, they quietly go stand in their stall and idly munch hay.
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Have you read this book? It’s very interesting as trainer Yvonne Barteau describes different horse personalities and uses examples of horses she has worked with in her career. She does reference Meyer-Briggs in relation to people and the horse personality types they match with best. I’m not sure if Parelli developed his theories first.
