Where to find a Non QH Appaloosa?

Just curious as to where one would search for Appaloosas that aren’t spotted QHs?

Are you thinking about the coat pattern or the breed?

If coat pattern, then you might consider this gorgeous guy:

http://www.avalon-equine.com/colorado-skroslashdstrup.html

Try www.confettifarms.com

She has an amazing Sporthorse stallion and a few Oldenburg crosses for sale.

Here are her current offerings:
http://www.horsebreederdirect.com/search?search_type=horse&primary_breed_id=8

The other posters have great suggestions for sporthorse type.

If you are looking for more of a hunter type, this is a fabulous breeder. Her horses are beautiful hunter types (not sporthorse/dressage) with great minds. Plenty of size and lovely hunter movement. And nice conservative colors with great tails.

www.hopescreekranch.com

Here is mine by her stallion, and no one would mistake him for a QH:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rgy2jjO8PQ

If you don’t want a baby, contact her and she might know of some older ones she has bred for sale.

I think you mean a Knabstrupper??

As previously posted, Confetti Farm.

Also these:
http://www.pjappaloosaranch.com/2007Foals.html

http://www.altamontsporthorses.com/

http://www.ctranchappaloosas.com/

The foundation lines can be more athletic and less western; some even look quite Baroque. It’s getting harder to find them though with any size to speak of. Lois Williams bred them and she is gone; so is JG Appaloosas. Some of the foundation lines, particularly Scripter (Solar Flair Eclat) and the Chocklate Confetti horses, have size and movement. Good luck.

Did you just want the color pattern

or were you specifically wanting Foundation stock Appaloosa’s?

If it’s just the color pattern, check out my Knabstruppers.

www.knabstruppers4usa.com.

If it’s foundation stock Apps, then I am not sure I know of any. But some one will.
MW

try googling Foundation Appaloosas. You will get a lot of farms, and the foundation app society, which has links to breeders as well.

If you are wanting an Appaloosa that is registered with ApHC but is not a colored QH, then look for a horse of the Wap lines. Most of those have very little QH in them. Generally referred to as “Wapaloosas” they were made famous by JG Appaloosas.

Just chiming to in to say I have a Chocklate Confetti bred appaloosa mare.

She has that Appy personality I desire (golden retriever in giant spotted body), all the color characteristics of the breed, but is taller, now 16.2 as a 4 year old.

She is ½ TB, but the Appy side is NOT “quarterloosa”. Mostly foundation, with some saddlebred thrown in way back.

Just chiming to in to say I have a Chocklate Confetti bred appaloosa mare.

She has that Appy personality I desire (golden retriever in giant spotted body), all the color characteristics of the breed, but is taller, now 16.2 as a 4 year old.

She is ½ TB, but the Appy side is NOT “quarterloosa”. Mostly foundation, with some saddlebred thrown in way back.

A few good places to start.
http://www.foundationapp.org/
http://www.foundationappaloosas.com/
http://www.d-rea.com/
http://foundationappaloosaranch.20fr.com/
http://www.southerncricket.com/advertisers/
http://appaloosahillsidefarm.com/FoundationAppaloosas.html
http://www.wakonappaloosas.com/horses.php
http://www.ghostwindappaloosas.com/
http://home.centurytel.net/foundapp/

I couldn’t remember off the top of my head if our Appaloosa stallion had Quarter Horse in him because he looks like a true Appaloosa with a rat tail to boot, but he’s actually half Quarter Horse. I guess I’m no help! Good luck!

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/want+tobe+a+dream

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I couldn’t remember off the top of my head if our Appaloosa stallion had Quarter Horse in him because he looks like a true Appaloosa with a rat tail to boot, but he’s actually half Quarter Horse. I guess I’m no help! Good luck!

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/want+tobe+a+dream[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think your stallion is just 1/32 Appaloosa (if I am doing the math right).

Dam and grandam were the same QH mare… The appy side is a long line of QH x Appaloosa crosses.

There are so many “Appaloosas” like this…and that is why it is so hard to find appies that aren’t “quarterloosas”!

And just as an observation, it seems like many “black” appaloosas that do roan, end up with rat tails. I know when my dark bay started roaning, her black tail stopped growing, and a thinner, white tail is growing in.

Yeah, but looking at him you would think he’s 100%: http://southcross.com/horses/list.php5?cat=at_stud Scroll down, he’s towards the bottom. I always assumed he had more app in him!

I hate that pic of him, but SO insists that the “action shot” is better than the conformation shot. Whatever.

It’s crazy, these days Appys, Paints, and QHs and almost the same just a different color.

But see, that is why so many “Appaloosa” lovers (at least of the English riding persuasion) are so upset with ApHC.

I, and many others feel that they have turned the Appaloosa, which at one time was a different type of horse then the Quarter Horse, into a Quarter Horse with “spots”.

I love my appie, and ones I have owned in the past. But they were not quarterloosas, but “foundation bred” rangy horses that looked more like a TB in build, catty as all hell, athletic and good jumpers.

“Wap” appaloosas and Chocklate Confetti appies are known for their foundation breeding, and movement / conformation which lends well to “sport horse” disciplines.

The ApHC shows are now basically spotted QH shows. They no longer have suitability for dressage, they have “HUS”, the halter horses look like typical bull dog QH’s, with or without spots.

They ApHC even changed their “ideal” Appaloosa from something that looks like what I would want to ride (rangy TB). This page shows the changes : Appaloosa Stanards

We have a colt by Wapuzzan out of a TB mare. WB movement, great jump & bone, hot as a firecracker; big boned, big hard feet, pushing an honest 17 hands. Good tail and mane, essentially all ApHC characteristics including lightning on all four legs - if we were around ApHC shows we’d enter the color classes, he’s the loudest I’ve ever seen. He’s eventing Novice/schooling Training at age 6 and ready for more.

Wapuzzan is apparently homozygous by Wap Spotted out of an ApHC mare, with the closest AQHA in the third generation (one). Not sure who’s standing Wapuzzan now, Rugby Creek was his owner a couple of years ago, but if you’re an experienced rider who can handle a spirited horse, the Wapuzzan cross on a talented TB (or WB) mare impresses me.

If you don’t mind smaller horses, consider a Spanish Mustang. Not a drop of known QH blood in them and as close to the originals as you will likely find in the world today. We have some appy marked horses in our breed…I have two here myself…a priceless three year old stallion (black with blanket) and a snowflake grulla mare. They can be found but are generally kept in preservation breeding programs. Being in S.Dakota, I can put you touch with a good friend near Buffalo Gap who can help you. She has one or two herself.

I had a lovely three year old dun snowflake gelding but we lost him this summer to an aneurysm. :frowning:

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But see, that is why so many “Appaloosa” lovers (at least of the English riding persuasion) are so upset with ApHC.

I, and many others feel that they have turned the Appaloosa, which at one time was a different type of horse then the Quarter Horse, into a Quarter Horse with “spots”.

I love my appie, and ones I have owned in the past. But they were not quarterloosas, but “foundation bred” rangy horses that looked more like a TB in build, catty as all hell, athletic and good jumpers.

“Wap” appaloosas and Chocklate Confetti appies are known for their foundation breeding, and movement / conformation which lends well to “sport horse” disciplines.

The ApHC shows are now basically spotted QH shows. They no longer have suitability for dressage, they have “HUS”, the halter horses look like typical bull dog QH’s, with or without spots.

They ApHC even changed their “ideal” Appaloosa from something that looks like what I would want to ride (rangy TB). This page shows the changes : Appaloosa Stanards[/QUOTE]

I totally agree. It’s a completely different animal with the same coloring. What is sad is the stereotype that hangs along with the Appaloosa. We’ll have people coming to look at horses say “Show me anything but an Appaloosa” or guests that say “I’ll ride anything that isn’t an Appaloosa” this is often followed by “I only riding geldings.” Stereotypes :frowning: Nowadays, there are very few true Appaloosas, yet the stereotype remains.

I had an unregistered Appy growing up. She was built a lot like you describe with the same personality, but I loved her and I wish I could have another like her! VERY athletic!

Here’s a couple pictures of my Appy by Butterwap Confetti (Confetti Farms):

Lily