My old hunter is 26 and semi-retired but always used to come 1st or 2nd in the hacks. The only exceptions were the odd occasions that he would be a complete animal and go off to the races. He’s very leggy and really points his toes at the trot, and has a nice canter.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/yukon+traveler
I have Charlie Moloney now! I’d love to get in touch with your trainer and see any old photo’s if they have any!
Wow is he still around? I remember that name from years ago, in COTH’s stallion issue I think.
Never mind, just noticing how ancient this thread is, he is surely dead by now.
This is a nine-year-old thread. It may be easier to start a new thread, or send a PM to the poster
This old thread really makes me miss War Admiral
I have a mare whose grandsire is Notebook (sire, Fappie’s Notebook - truly unfortunate name :lol:). She’s a lovely lovely mover - we do straight dressage with the very occasional pop over a speedbump for variety.
Oh! dear. Just noticed the age of this thread! whoops!
Well, if nothing else, we have a whole new generation since thus thread starting to get established in second careers. Be interesting to see what today’s popular sires are producing sport horse wise. Little early for the mares to have enough on the ground for enough years to show any trends just yet.
Okay, as far as an update, I do see (and I have one) a lot of nice Giant’s Causeway babies. Does anyone else have one that they feel is nice? My six-year-old really has a great personality, and a great jump as well. Sad that the stallion passed at 21.
I was going to pop in and saw the date of the thread; but it wouldn’t hurt to have all of our impressions on one thread, easily searchable, so I will pop in with lines I personally look for when I am looking for a good moving horse. Of the sires I’ve listed, I’ve seen more than several direct offspring of, and these sires tend to reliably pass on their movement.
Johannesburg
Hennesey
Frost Giant
Stonesider
Giant’s Causeway
Forestry
Hunt Crossing
Corinthian
Golden Missile
Say Florida Sandy (Personal Flag)
Talc
Copelan
Rockport Harbor
Eskendereya
High Cotton
Stormy Atlantic
Louis Quatorze
Alphabet Soup
Artax
Marquetry
Notebook
Conquistador Cielo
AP Indy
Archarcharch
Not exhaustive list… but I just ran out of time.
By far the best moving OTTB I have seen was by Hunt Crossing. He had a trot that was indistinguishable from my Sir Donnerhall filly… and I don’t say that lightly, as my filly has an incredible trot.
Yes! Check out my list above - several stallions in it are by Giant’s Causeway. He is REALLY nice for sport - if you can find one of his direct get… But I think he is even better, when he is a sire of a sire – Frost Giant, Stonesider and Eskendereya are some of his direct sons who I think are an improvement over him in terms of sport (not racing).
That’s good information to know, the other stallions by GC. Thanks for posting! I will definitely keep those stallions in mind next time I’m shopping.
We got two pretty nice moving OTTBs in the barn right now.
They are both different though. One has a loft and impulsion (his trot is really beautiful) and the other is a flat, daisy-cutter mover.
We’ve had the flat moving one longer and he’s won some under saddle classes. The classes he didn’t win were the ones when he forgot he had a right lead so our transitions were sketchy but he’d still place high. He is by Defrere (Deputy Minister).
The lofty mover has some show anxiety and he’s only been with us a couple of months. If I can get the trot we have at home in the show ring, he will be a hack winner (at least at our local shows, but I think he can hold his own at rated shows…if he relaxes!) He’s by Out of Place. I noticed earlier in this thread (9 years ago lol) that Turn-To was mentioned. Turn-To is in Out of Place’s bloodlines.
I’ve had two TBs with very different body types, and movement.
Crown Minster (The Prime Minister/Deputy Minister x Torsion) https://www.pedigreequery.com/crown+minister
Compact build, upright. Very slinky walk, sewing machine trot, canter that improved after a lot of work, super gallop
Midnight Sound (obscure breeding by Tantoul out of a dam line that didn’t do anything since the early 60s with Black Beard, by Swaps…) https://www.pedigreequery.com/midnight+sound
Tall, rangy, skinny. Huge walk, big round trot, very adjustable rocking horse canter. Piaffe to extended canter like nothing. Never raced, but won a couple hunter pace “fastest round” classes. Wise and kind. Superb jumper. Evented Intermediate. Would love another just like him - have never found a relation for sale.
I have a 4yo gelding by Ghostzapper out of a daughter of Golden Missile: https://www.pedigreequery.com/my+man+zapper
I bought him for fox hunting because he was incredibly calm when I tried him as a 2 coming 3 year old, in January and in a pasture. Fast forward to now and he looks like he was bred to be a hunter!
This is a short video of him cantering over a crossrail a few months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdwyPYdk0Pg
His fox hunting career is scheduled to begin in about a week. He’s 4 now, and up until a couple weeks ago, was the calmest baby horse I’d ever sat on. He evidently found his sassy pants recently so I’m curious to see how he is hunting… but I’ll also take him to some H/J shows when he’s getting close to 6yo. Maybe sooner if he flunks out of hunting!
My new boy is by Gottcha Gold out of a Pine Bluff mare. He has Pleasant Colony top and bottom. He is a great mover! https://www.pedigreequery.com/tranquil+warrior
Not my horse but Zanclus is breathtaking. He is a local timber horse and just floats across the ground–and wins! https://www.pedigreequery.com/zanclus
I predict that Justify will show up in the 3day and perhaps hunter ring in years to come.
Never have I seen a race TB that appeared to have a natural balance over the back that is so envied by dressage enthusiasts.
Just watch how he broke and appeared to have uphill balance and carriage that probably translated to stride efficiency and power.
it is hard to put to words, but when you know it and you see it in a race TB… he won those races in the first 5 strides with the beautiful body bio-mechanic
I have a really nice Freud (full brother to GC) six year old. He’s been so easy to train and would probably come home with you and sit on the couch watching movies if you let him. He’s on the small side but broad, kind of like a big pony. He moves like a hunter but goes like a sports car when you want so could probably go in either ring. He’s brave too and my eventer friends think he should go that route.
I’ve also got to give credit to his mom, who is Cape Town (Mr. P/Seattle Slew) on top and Vice Regent on bottom. I have a really nice AP Indy line horse out of her.
Love threads like this, happy to see it revived.
My gelding Shadowsoncanvas was an incredible mover. By Canvas (Mr. P), line bred Bold Ruler, Buckpasser is probably notable as well. He would stop people in their tracks wherever he went. Just unexpectedly lost him due to lymphoma a couple weeks ago. He was the horse of a lifetime.
https://www.pedigreequery.com/shadowsoncanvas
@beowulf Interesting about Giant’s Causeway. My mare by Fairbanks (GC son) is an unremarkable mover, to put it kindly.
Sorry for your loss, Jexa :no: {{hugs}}
I can tell you right off the page the reason for him being an incredible mover had a lot to do with his damside. Elocutionist was a very good mover, made very good movers too - seems to me any time you combined Gallant Man sire-side with Bold Ruler you got a very nice mover, if a bit funny looking. Funny thing is, we have a My Gallant (Gallant Man) gelding who is retired now, but always stopped people in his tracks as well. He is more springy than elastic, but his movement (especially the trot) always got top remarks in dressage. He was such an uphill mover that the more you kicked him on, the more uphill and slower he’d get - he made a terrible racehorse.
Tangent aside, T.V Lark + Cornish Prince are both touted (especially on this forum) as being good for sport.
That’s disappointing about Fairbanks, I don’t see as many as his get. The pedigree on Fairly Fuzzy – damside is not great for movement; Slew was almost always a movement killer if he didn’t come through AP Indy, and I have never been impressed with Gone West in terms of what he produced for sport. Can’t argue he produced top-class horses for racing, but if I had to have GW I’d want him far back, and not linebred.
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