Why Are We Americans Not Prosecuting These Cases and Removing Ownership Permanently?

[BaroquePony]

This is on FB …

http://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/rudy-s-fight-to-survive-/285664#.VKdQJGqBjuq.facebook

ETA: don’t open it if you don’t want to see beyond gruesome. The owners of a horse that got stuck in a fence called AC to come get their dead horse on New Years Day, AC waited until Friday due to it being New Years … when they got there they found the horse was not dead … but his ears had been chewed off and so had large areas of his face and his eye lids …

What kind of country do we live in?

[Sannois]

Okay, I cannot believe that a case like that the so called owner is not brought up on cruelty charges.
I have never seen anything so horrific, and to think that poor thing was left in a back yard entangled and nothing done sooner?
It is amazing he is alive. it is sickening.

[OneGrayPony]

In the comments someone has noted that the owner is being charged. Now, what happens next is still up in the air, but it does sound like they are indeed being charged.

[DesignerLabel]

Ok, flame suit on here, but this is the problem I have with many rescue organizations. This poor animal has to be in agony. In my opinion, FWIW, he needs to be humanely euthanized, not saved at all costs.

Of course, I haven’t seen him in person, nor spoken with the attending veterinarian, so maybe it’s not as bad as it looks.

Doubtful, but maybe…

[RiderInTheRain]

I’ll admit, DesignerLabel, when I first saw this link (shared by an animal loving, but non-horsey friend of mine on Facebook, urging people to donated), my first thoughts were the same as years.

I’m also hopeful that his injuries are not as bad as they look and that the organization and his vet(s) are considering the level of pain he’s in and possibly will be for sometime when making their decisions about how to proceed with him. I sincerely hope he recovers well and can lead a normal horse life.

And it is good the owner is being charged. Just disgusting that someone would leave a horse tangled in a fence to die.

[BaroquePony]

Ok, when I first saw this I did read a few comments, but really didn’t get past the whole thing.

How is this horse going to ever be normal with no ears and large amounts of missing eyelids? He isn’t.

I am not in favor of saving at all cost, either.

I am very glad to hear that charges are being brought against the owners.

But, the biggest thing I think that needs to change over here in our country is that these types of owners need to be permanently barred from ever owning horses agin. They do that in Europe.

Those photos to me were shocking. But maybe that’s because I am so tired of seeing how we handle cruelty here.

[BaroquePony]

Waiting until horses are a 1 on a scale of 1 to 10 is ludicrous in starvation cases …

[findeight]

Well, this is not Europe with our thousands of municiple, township, county and state jurisdictions with no federal oversight and authority over animal owners. Plus that, there is abuse over there, don’t kid yourself. Not utopian, they can end up on your plate.

What you can do is get active locally, vote on local issues and for local politicians, judges and administrators that express an interest in enforcing existing cruelty, neglect and abuse statutes and advocate for change in the way the law treats animals.

Feel sorry for this pour guy, local authorities should be " encouraged" not to throw it out as a nuisance. Perhaps an online petition or letter writing campaign demanding action and making sure those that left it there pick up the tab for extricating it, treatment/euth and any other costs incurred by the local jurisdiction, animal control or whatever.

[BaroquePony]

I don’t think it is Utopian over there, but I’ve seen enough information and dialog to know that there are at least some consistent ideas of cruelty and regulation.

Regulation of farriers is treated VERY differently over there. That’s just farriers.

[BaroquePony]

Not soon enough, but at least it’s happening.

http://www.writingofriding.com/in-the-media/fbi-makes-horse-abuse-felony/

[dkcbr]

[QUOTE=BaroquePony;7938740]
This is on FB …

http://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/rudy-s-fight-to-survive-/285664#.VKdQJGqBjuq.facebook

ETA: don’t open it if you don’t want to see beyond gruesome. The owners of a horse that got stuck in a fence called AC to come get their dead horse on New Years Day, AC waited until Friday due to it being New Years … when they got there they found the horse was not dead … but his ears had been chewed off and so had large areas of his face and his eye lids …

What kind of country do we live in?[/QUOTE]

I’m not opening this. The brief description is enough. :mad:

(But please don’t extrapolate from this one case, applying it to a whole country of 300 million. )

[BaroquePony]

Don’t open it, I wish I hadn’t … I try really hard not to extrapolate, but honestly I have seen so many situations at this point …

[2enduraceriders]

The horse wont care what his head looks like. Pretty bad when we “save” horses who will never be sound and happy but want to kill one that will be sound happy but just ugly to our eyes. Overall he looks like a very well balanced young horse that will be a joy to ride when he heals.

[BaroquePony]

Horses hate getting water in their ears … and it can effect their equilibrium. How’s that gonna work? What about eyelids? That’s going to be an everyday problem.

[2enduraceriders]

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Horses hate getting water in their ears … and it can effect their equilibrium. How’s that gonna work? What about eyelids? That’s going to be an everyday problem.[/QUOTE]

Even if this is true are you telling me this horse needs to be killed because he MAY need some management in the future? Thank god you can’t get your hands on my white face horse. You would rather see her killed then kept out of the summer sun. And my poor warmblood appy horse needs to be put to sleep too. She is prone to clogged tear ducts so needs to wear a fly makes in the summer. I guess there is no survival chance for our insulin resistant foxtrotter even when she is the perfect horse for our visiting novice riders.

[pezk]

The owner should have the book thrown at them. But putting the horse down, just because he’s ugly, that’s a big question mark.
Horses tear off eyelids all by themselves. After treatment they seem to adjust. If rain getting in the ears is a problem, then a resourceful person could probably design some type of fly mask with solid ears to stay on. The horse might need a fly mask 24/7 anyway to protect the eyes. They adjust. Animals usually do a lot better job adjusting than humans. Give the horse a chance. He lived this long against difficult odds. He deserves a chance.

[pezk]

[QUOTE=2enduraceriders;7939157]
Even if this is true are you telling me this horse needs to be killed because he MAY need some management in the future? Thank god you can’t get your hands on my white face horse. You would rather see her killed then kept out of the summer sun. And my poor warmblood appy horse needs to be put to sleep too. She is prone to clogged tear ducts so needs to wear a fly makes in the summer. I guess there is no survival chance for our insulin resistant foxtrotter even when she is the perfect horse for our visiting novice riders.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this too. Glad we don’t have other humans making decisions for our horses because they need mgt. my mare wore a fly mask 24/7 for 9 months because of eye problems. She’s also IR and needs her hay Micro managed. And I board. The BM does a good job handling these problems. Problems happen. You take care of them as they arise. That’s life.
The owners of that horse need to be put in jail. The horse already paid for the owners cruelty. Give him a chance. He deserves it.

[findeight]

Is there a fund set up for his treatment and ongoing care or is somebody willing to hitch up and go get him?

[2enduraceriders]

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Is there a fund set up for his treatment and ongoing care or is somebody willing to hitch up and go get him?[/QUOTE]
The OP’s link goes to a fundraising page. 14,214 raised of $8,000 goal. I would give this guy a home but am 700 miles away. http://www.youcaring.com/nonprofits/rudy-s-fight-to-survive-/285664#.VKdQJGqBjuq.facebook

[Guilherme]

You don’t put a horse down because it’s ugly or because it will need “management.” You put it down because it will live the rest of its life in unremitting pain. The probability of that with this horse is very, very high.

Death is the end of life. It is the fate of all living things. It’s a kindness to bring to animals with a fate that will be defined by their pain. It is a cruelty to deny it to such an animal because of a philosophy that says “every animal deserves a chance.”

G.