Woman Shot at Barisone Farm

[Wilbury_Pie]

Trying to catch up after a couple of days…

First, I agree that GreenWithEnvy (or whatever the handle is) smells like LK or SW. Funny, they do seem to hate each other, but under a moniker they are difficult to tell apart. Also, DH fb page is not loading, was it disabled by fb (finally) ?

Second, this civil suit…yes, how can a trust fund layabout claim lost wages? Which brings me to an idea I’ve had in the back of my mind regarding LK and her lawyer father. As others have pointed out, the civil suit seems to be a lark at this point in time. So how does her father figure into this equation? Has she been scamming him for years to pay for her training, horses, boyfriend/groom because of her “incredible potential” in the equestrian world? There is a reason why it’s a bad idea for professionals to advise family members without sober second thought. This warped thinking will not fly in civil court.

[MorganSercu]

The only thing I keep thinking regarding filing the civil suit before the criminal one has played out or is even well underway is “putting the cart before the horse”.

[haleybot]

Today is Girl Joey’s day in court for her harrassment charges pending against LK. It will be interesting to see if LK or her lawyer shows up in court.

[GreenWithEnvy]

What a nice nap. Now I have perused many more pages (25 - 50) and I see so many are thinking strange thoughts that seem to blame the woman and her boyfriend. My, my they both seem to have a long history of legal issues, don’t they? But wait, figure skating? What does figure skating have to do with this? I must have slept too hard to understand the relationship. Oh, here it comes…………Nancy Grace. Is Rudy Guiliani in here too?

There is so much mudslinging I feel like I must be standing at the water trough after a heavy rain. Gosh, there’s a chapter story this woman wrote on her FB account? Where is that listed? I am so confused. Was it self defense or a set up? Oh, dear, alcohol and drugs were the cause.

I am so confused again. MB was gay and wore dresses and carried a pink gun? I’ve never heard that. Is that why he has a tiara? He is an elitist who plotted and planned to murder everyone? Where does this stuff come from? As soon as someone makes some sense, someone cuts them down for having sense. WTH?

Wait, wait, they moved out of their house? What did I miss? Were there bad spirits or something? Uh-ho, someone called to have some children taken away. I am missing a lot I think. How did we leap from figure skating to dresses and taking children from their parents? Somebody said, “Curiouser and Curiourser” – no joke. Do Teresa and Joe Giudice make an appearance?

(I didn’t mean to cause such speculation. GWE is definitely not anyone important. This is simply a parody of how insane this thread has become by many bored and interested posters.)

[trubandloki]

@GreenWithEnvy

(I didn’t mean to cause such speculation. GWE is definitely not anyone important. This is simply a parody of how insane this thread has become by many bored and interested posters.)

Bored people can always just skip over those threads that they find boring.

[MHM]

@haleybot

Today is Girl Joey’s day in court for her harrassment charges pending against LK. It will be interesting to see if LK or her lawyer shows up in court.

I didn’t realize that case was still working its way through the court system.

[Mersidoats]

@haleybot

Today is Girl Joey’s day in court for her harrassment charges pending against LK. It will be interesting to see if LK or her lawyer shows up in court.

Well, that sure is interesting. She must have gotten served somehow. There are penalties if she doesn’t show up in court.

[haleybot]

And no surprise she didnt show up… even when the papers tried to get served at the parents house it didn’t happen. This is the same crap I have had to try to deal with in getting my case served…I wonder how many other people just gave up in trying to get her served. Well, LK or lala pop rider. What’s your excuse now???

[MorganSercu]

@haleybot

And no surprise she didnt show up… even when the papers tried to get served at the parents house it didn’t happen. This is the same crap I have had to try to deal with in getting my case served…I wonder how many other people just gave up in trying to get her served. Well, LK or lala pop rider. What’s your excuse now???

So she was served and didn’t show up? Or no one opened the door so she gets to continue her merry way?

Seems to me that being unable to find someone with important paperwork wouldn’t be a good thing if you wanted to hire them for any reason whatsoever.

[Angela_Freda]

@haleybot

And no surprise she didnt show up… even when the papers tried to get served at the parents house it didn’t happen. This is the same crap I have had to try to deal with in getting my case served…I wonder how many other people just gave up in trying to get her served. Well, LK or lala pop rider. What’s your excuse now???

You would think if she was innocent she would be in a hurry to sashay in there and demonstrate that innocence.
Shoulda’ served her when she was in the hospital. Can you even do that?
More and more she reminds me of someone… some famous person, who played POTUS once… can’t put my finger on who.

[Scribbler]

@Wilbury Pie

Trying to catch up after a couple of days…

First, I agree that GreenWithEnvy (or whatever the handle is) smells like LK or SW. Funny, they do seem to hate each other, but under a moniker they are difficult to tell apart. Also, DH fb page is not loading, was it disabled by fb (finally) ?

Second, this civil suit…yes, how can a trust fund layabout claim lost wages? Which brings me to an idea I’ve had in the back of my mind regarding LK and her lawyer father. As others have pointed out, the civil suit seems to be a lark at this point in time. So how does her father figure into this equation? Has she been scamming him for years to pay for her training, horses, boyfriend/groom because of her “incredible potential” in the equestrian world? There is a reason why it’s a bad idea for professionals to advise family members without sober second thought. This warped thinking will not fly in civil court.

The civil case as reported in the newspaper makes no claim about lost wages.

I find it interesting that the civil suit makes a claim about personal suffering when LK on social media claims to be fully healed and titanium. Unless she means she had a titanium plate installed somewhere. Btw a broken wrist heals up much faster with a plate than without so perhaps other players here really are titanium.

I agree this is a nuisance civil suit but even if it gets thrown out I expect the targets will need to spend some legal attention on it. In other words it works as an annoyance and distraction and expense. It is the IRL version of being a troll.

Speaking of trolls, amused at the updates to SWs personal life on FB. Not going to bother reading that trash but I can imagine full scale wackiness turned on a close personal relationship.

At what point do estranged father’s who are lawyers step in with troll daughters having emotion collapses and have them sequestered in some way?

Btw fun fact that came out on the original SW thread is that SW has a sister who went to the Olympics and maybe even got a prize in one of the less known target shooting divisions. And apparently SW really resents that.

What is it about Olympics in the imagination of laysbout ammies? From the 14 year old advanced beginner who says “all my coaches say I have such a nice leg on a horse that I m going to the Olympics” through to SW bashing Olympic riders and LK having apparently some ideation that a bronze USEF medal is in some way leading to a bronze Olympic medal.

[Mersidoats]

It seems that in NJ, you can serve someone in person, and if the papers are received by a member of the household over the age of 14, they are considered served. As part of the due diligence process, it looks like you can also serve via certified mail, or even by publishing in a newspaper in the locality where the defendant is known to live. This is usually done in the case of an intentionally evasive defendant.

[roseymare]

How does that work when papers were idrawn in different state? Which states laws take precedence?

[MorganSercu]

@Scribbler

What is it about Olympics in the imagination of laysbout ammies? From the 14 year old advanced beginner who says “all my coaches say I have such a nice leg on a horse that I m going to the Olympics” through to SW bashing Olympic riders and LK having apparently some ideation that a bronze USEF medal is in some way leading to a bronze Olympic medal.

I think that it is a side effect of its own success. The gold, silver or bronze Olympic medal shows that someone how worked hard and made it to the top in their field and so now there are a lot of other sports and venues that do the same thing.

It would be nice if even in the equestrian world we could recognize achievement without glomming onto the g/s/b medal thing.

Back to LK. I think it’s weird that she isn’t eager to show up to court and make her innocence known to all and sundry (GirlJoey’s case in NC).

The civil case as reported in the newspaper makes no claim about lost wages.

How can you claim lost wages when you don’t work? And apparently haven’t worked for quite some time? It’s not like she was in medical school or a trade school with a job lined up after graduation. Not even a work study job near as I can figure.

Has anyone noticed someone bragging that a horse they own was trained by Lauren Kanarek? If she does sell any of her horses, does she advertise them as being trained by her or is that not part of the pitch?

SW has a sister who went to the Olympics and maybe even got a prize in one of the less known target shooting divisions.

Lea Wachowich. 10m and 25m air pistol. Well done!

https://olympic.ca/team-canada/lea-wachowich/
https://www.issf-sports.org/athletes/athlete.ashx?personissfid=SHCANW0810198001

[mbdsea]

@Scribbler

The civil case as reported in the newspaper makes no claim about lost wages.

The complaint that was filed does. Will be interesting to see the Answer and Affirmative Defenses that are filed in response.

[mbdsea]

@roseymare

How does that work when papers were idrawn in different state? Which states laws take precedence?

That’s a lengthy bar exam question! Hahaha. For substantive issues, the law of the state where the cause of action arose usually takes precedence.

[MorganSercu]

@mbdsea

The complaint that was filed does. Will be interesting to see the Answer and Affirmative Defenses that are filed in response.

How does that work if someone has an “irregular” work history? How do you figure out someone’s lost earning capacity in this field? Isn’t LK an amateur to boot? If she is saying that she is out money because she can’t ride or train, then wouldn’t she have to prove she earned money doing it?

[mbdsea]

@MorganSercu

How does that work if someone has an “irregular” work history?

Not too well! Haha. As a general rule, damages cannot be speculative. So, if a plaintiff has no higher education (as an example) and is injured, he or she can’t come into to court and declare, “I was going to be an astronaut! Pay me.” (Well, a plaintiff CAN say that, but a defense lawyer would likely get a jury instruction that damages cannot be speculative, and a jury probably wouldn’t go for it.) A plaintiff also has a duty to mitigate - he or she won’t recover for future earnings indefinitely, having taken no steps to - you know - do something. Generally speaking, a plaintiff would have to have some type of earnings base from prior work history to claim lost past/future wages.

It appears to me that NJ is a notice pleading state, which means that a plaintiff can pretty much ask for anything in a complaint without too many facts to back it up. Most states use the notice pleading system. Facts are sorted out in discovery. For this reason, complaints usually don’t give a reader much concrete info.

Will be interesting to keep an eye on the docket in this case.

[CanteringCarrot]

@mbdsea

Not too well! Haha. As a general rule, damages cannot be speculative. So, if a plaintiff has no higher education (as an example) and is injured, he or she can’t come into to court and declare, “I was going to be an astronaut! Pay me.” (Well, a plaintiff CAN say that, but a defense lawyer would likely get a jury instruction that damages cannot be speculative, and a jury probably wouldn’t go for it.) A plaintiff also has a duty to mitigate - he or she won’t recover for future earnings indefinitely, having taken no steps to - you know - do something. Generally speaking, a plaintiff would have to have some type of earnings base from prior work history to claim lost past/future wages.

It appears to me that NJ is a notice pleading state, which means that a plaintiff can pretty much ask for anything in a complaint without too many facts to back it up. Most states use the notice pleading system. Facts are sorted out in discovery. For this reason, complaints usually don’t give a reader much concrete info.

Will be interesting to keep an eye on the docket in this case.

Why? Re notice pleading. That just seems like the court would waste more time and receive more frivolous claims. I would think having to bring some fact beforehand would help weed things out before allowing it to proceed further. But maybe I’m missing something.

[tryintogethere]

@MorganSercu, GJ lives in NJ not NC just fyi.