The entire thing seems unreal, but there is another point that doesn’t make sense. As I read it, you actually sound glad a recognized hunt just folded? You labeled it publically as “disreputable”. What kind of representation are you being, for your club? You implied the horse’s owners had to sell quickly. You then pass the horse off in the same hurry. I hope this horse gets a chance with someone more well-equipped to own him. I hazard a guess that if a person owned him longterm in the past, as you implied, it’s just arrogance to think it couldn’t happen again. I can imagine wood-chewing at its worst and don’t consider it an out of this world (literally) vice.
Horses are livestock. They have a job and I expect them to do it.
I’m also a horsewoman and I have to say that if the horse came to me and rode well, was sound, and could do the job I wanted then I would try more then one option before sending it to be food.
I have no problem with sending a horse to be meat. None at all when they are lame, old, near death and cannot do their job. I do not have extra time or money for an unsound horse. Also why keep them when they just sit. Horrible life for them.
Honestly, the way that the OP has acted this whole thread makes me upset and just plain angry. People stepped up to take the horse, it was not some lame nag. It had a simple vice that could be fixed. Seems the OP could not be bothered to try.
Who lets a horse keep damaging fences, stalls, etc., without trying products to prevent chewing? Or by putting horse in, as others have suggested, a pipe corral or electric fence? A normal person does not sit back and allow a horse to do a lot of chewing damage before acting. I’ve seen people put creosote on fence posts, etc.
Several cothers on this thread have offered to take the horse. Give him up to one of them.
Or he could have been placed with about a zillion people who have electric fencing of some kind. Many options away from being dog food. Too bad you don’t care enough to find them.
There seems to be lots of good intention here, but has anyone thought to do a google search and make some phone calls to the “north of Lexington, KY” hunt clubs to see if the horse can be found and offers for re-homing made? If there are many who would take him, perhaps outreach could be started rather than waiting for the OP to provide information. Here’s one: http://www.iroquoishunt.com/
[QUOTE=SwampYankee;6294762]
I’d put him outside in a steel round-pen that you can move as he eats down each “crop circle.” Or a field fenced with stone walls and wire. He needs to be denied the opportunity . . .[/QUOTE]
Great idea! :yes:
I’m going to guess that the huntsman just got a super staff/guest horse for free.
He wouldn’t be the first foxhunter who got a great freebie.
Count me among those who think horses are livestock and they are there to do a job. I love my horses dearly but they do work for a living.
It’s just bad horsemanship to take a horse out if its normal environment, change its management drastically, and then freak out if the horses behavior changes. The horse went from being pastured to a dirt lot in its new home.
The behavior could be nothing more than stress or a poor response to a new diet. And I bet the huntsman knew it and is thrilled with a free field hunter. I would be!!! Why can’t I get free field hunters. Waaaa…
Hey OP, go buy some more field hunters. When they step out of line, call me. I’ll drive down, pick them up, and flip them in Virginia. I’ll be rich, I tell you. RICH!!!
I’m guessing Iroquois Hunt.
[QUOTE=sdlbredfan;6296667]
SwampYankee, you left out the third category, that of ‘horseman/horsewoman’ meaning someone who may have a job for the horse to do and a need for the critter to earn its keep, yet realizes that the horse deserves and will perform better if it receives the proper and necessary care and attention applied to its diet, its environment, and its general state of health and happiness.[/QUOTE]
Why, thank’ye kindly, ma’am, you just described me! 
Seriously, I think this is one of the middle-grounds I mentioned that most of us aspire to attain. Since I run a retirement farm, I deal with more people of the sentimental type than the mercenary; but I grew up with those, and it is necessary to understand where they’re coming from when trying to convince them to do better by the horse. If horses weren’t so danged expensive it would be less difficult to strike the proper balance.
My response to the world’s shortcomings is: Do BETTER!
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SwampYankee, I’m afraid I have to disagree with you a bit here. You are on target with your characterization of the spectrum of animal ownership. But in this particular instance, if the OP fell into the category of “traditionalist”, she had other options for relieving herself of the horse. Several people have come forward to say that they would take the horse, even knowing his vice.
The OP has posted in the past about wanting to “bond” with her horse, and wanting a horse that’s not too stand-offish, which would lead one to believe that she would not quite fall into your traditionalist category.
Instead, this seems more a case of exacting a sort of revenge on the horse for the damage he’s done, when of course the horse has no concept of either damage or revenge.
As Skydy has written, I hope that the OP will inform the huntsman that there are volunteers to take this horse if he doesn’t work out there.[/QUOTE]
Yes, the thought that she wanted “revenge” was pretty apparent; whoa, back up slowly and pull out the garlic clove!
I also thought the level of rage about a stupid 6 x 6 chunk of wood was a bunch over the top–I mean what does that cost, about 20 bucks? Her attentiveness leaves a bit to be desired, too, if she failed to intervene before he destroyed her whole place. I’d have had him in a steel round-pen in a heartbeat, and would be looking into the dietary issues someone else raised. Etc.
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“Brownie” has been on staff with the hunt for a total of 9 years . In those 9 years he never shown the vice in which he is being accused of . Several members have gone over to the kennels and photographed the oak stall and the 20 acre board fencing in which Brownie has lived in for the past 9 years. Guess what, no damage .Obviously Brownie is very stressed, homesick and I am sure “hungry” from being confined to a dirt lot. To threaten to “kill” a sound, wonderful and sweet horse , after “promising a forever home” is unforgivable !Furthermore, to be “happy” that a 100 year old hunt club is folding , is disgusting … What "true foxhunter would be happy to see hounds , horses and a loyal staff of 35 years lose their homes and jobs? Not a nice person at all would wish or be happy about that… It has come to the hunts attention that Brownie will be going to the Huntsman at the Camargo Hunt in KY . I am sure the MFH ( **who owns the former home , stables, and kennels where Brownie lived & worked for 9 years ) will be in contact with the hunt club to pass along complete details needed on this hardworking and wonderful hunting horse. This is so very sad.
It is not only sad, it is truly disgusting…The OP is not high on my list of worthwhile human beings. I remember fondly my youth in PC…I had the pleasure of using guest horses such a Brownie and it was a truly wonderful experience. It made me so fond of hunting. I wish I could hunt, but an old broken neck precludes jumping, I must keep all fours on the ground so to speak. Horses like Brownie are worth their weight in gold. Even if he was guilty of the vice she accused him of, there are ways to work around it, not making him into dog food. I hope her name will turn to mud in her area, she deserves it.
Too bad the fuglyblog just isn’t what it used to be. The OP should be outed. Redfoxyloxy, please pass the details of this thread on to the CH Hunt. I’m sure they will be interested in the opinions and actions of their member.
I also find it interesting that the OP no longer has the name of her “training center” in Dry Ridge listed in her signature line. I wonder why.
Redfoxloxy,
Thank you for coming on! We are so upset about Brownie!
A made hunt horse is such a treasure, and there are lots of us who would be happy to take him. Please let us know if he needs another home.
I’m sorry that your hunt is folding. Perhaps you will be able to find another location in the future. I hope that the Carmargo Hunt will be coming to the Va hound show. Brownie now has his own fan club.
Redfoxyloxy, you have a lot of folks who agree with you.
Glad to hear the other side of the story, which is what most of us suspected, that this wasn’t a behavior exhibited just to be an ass, but out of stress or pain or hunger or all.
So very sorry that what sounds like a very nice horse ended up in such a disappointing (to be polite) situation.
I’m beyond thrilled that Brownie’s old owner/staff will be in touch with his new owner to share information.
And at the very least, if the new huntsman finds he isn’t working out, will you be sure to share that there are many interested parties to be found on this thread? After what’s happened, I’m sure all of them wouldn’t mind being vetted hard.
Good luck to Brownie. I hope he’s being appreciated and cared for now.
ETA: Any ideas on who told the OP that this was confirmed behavior of 10 years? Anyone confirming or denying that?
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Redfoxyloxy, you have a lot of folks who agree with you.
Glad to hear the other side of the story, which is what most of us suspected, that this wasn’t a behavior exhibited just to be an ass, but out of stress or pain or hunger or all.
So very sorry that what sounds like a very nice horse ended up in such a disappointing (to be polite) situation.
I’m beyond thrilled that Brownie’s old owner/staff will be in touch with his new owner to share information.
And at the very least, if the new huntsman finds he isn’t working out, will you be sure to share that there are many interested parties to be found on this thread? After what’s happened, I’m sure all of them wouldn’t mind being vetted hard.
Good luck to Brownie. I hope he’s being appreciated and cared for now.
ETA: Any ideas on who told the OP that this was confirmed behavior of 10 years? Anyone confirming or denying that?[/QUOTE]
No one confirmed that behavior… it is simply not true what OP wrote .
[QUOTE=2ndyrgal;6295735]
The huntsman will use him as a guest horse if the hot wire works and he doesn’t tear the barn down.
If not, he’ll be hound food.
It’s really a shame, otherwise, he couldn’t be a nicer horse.[/QUOTE]
what a hypocrite! your saying its a shame??? what the shame is, is that people gave you a nice horse and you are threatening to make him hound food without contacting any other people who inquired about taking him from you.
horses dont always settle with a certain owner. but that doesnt mean he should be hound food. i find that repulsive! and it makes me scared to sell a horse, because selling a horse to you with lovely fences and barns, then you turn around and want him gone just like that??? and if he is not gone he is hound food. wow! horrible!
when you take on a horse, you take on the responsibility of rehoming him if its not working for you. you could have errected a metal pen while you were in the process of rehoming him. you could have contacted all the people who inquired. but you took the easy way out because you didnt pay much money for the horse. i feel sorry for any horse owned by you!
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No one confirmed that behavior… it is simply not true what OP wrote .[/QUOTE]
Thank you.
A few more questions. Did OP contact anyone who told her that he wouldn’t leave a muzzle on as she stated? Did she contact the previous owners to find out if they’d take him back since it wasn’t working out?
I appreciate your candor, and just think both sides of the story deserve to be heard.
[QUOTE=Long Spot;6297410]
Thank you.
A few more questions. Did OP contact anyone who told her that he wouldn’t leave a muzzle on as she stated? Did she contact the previous owners to find out if they’d take him back since it wasn’t working out?
I appreciate your candor, and just think both sides of the story deserve to be heard.[/QUOTE] I have an e-mail claiming that she had (in a round about way ) put Brownie down… "he was unsuitable for anyone and he was “no longer with us” . I cannot tell you how upset everyone was by this …No one is hiding here , this horse has worked for the hunt for 9 years ~ There was so much interest in this horse, we simply picked the wrong person to own him…
SHe WHAT!!!
Did you confirm with the huntsman of Carmargo?
