Wow. Burghley.

[QUOTE=goodmorning;8303915]
This racing bred send her nicer horses stuff is getting old. She rode a bit crooked. Never going to score lower without fixing that. The best scores from all the others - the rider nuances. Donner is a fancy enough horse; have you seen Sam? - not an overly fancy horse. Tim Prices horse ditto, and he’ll tell you that one isn’t a dressage horse. They are an exciting pair but even when she exited the ring she was a bit ‘he’s just a Thoroughbred.’ Very pleased with them but if you put Donner in Pitts barn he’d be scoring in the 30s.

There were oohs & ahhs from the crowd when our American horses were going. Just not quite polished enough for the leaderboard yet. Will come with time. Donner is only 12 so they have time. Colleen too. Very exciting. Blaming the horses = rubbish :wink:

You know who has a fantastic young horse - Tiana C! Really, that 5yo is special. And how cool that they have a 50k pot & award 30k to the breeders for their Young Event horse stuff. Sure know how to treat owners & breeders over there. Step 1 for keeping good horses with our riders.[/QUOTE]

I don’t think anyone was knocking the horses. They are both lovely horses. It was more wouldn’t it be nice if Lynn had several Donners and Coleen had a few Covert Rights.

[QUOTE=SlamDunk;8303928]
I don’t think anyone was knocking the horses. They are both lovely horses. It was more wouldn’t it be nice if Lynn had several Donners and Coleen had a few Covert Rights.[/QUOTE]

Definitely not me! I just wish our riders had more like them!

Why do I keep getting last year’s videos? What’s the link for the current videos, if you please.

To whoever asked about Laine/Lainey… her “real” name is Laine, nickname is Lainey. So while we refer to her as the latter, but she usually enters events as her formal name.

For some reason, all the videos are dated 5/9/2015, which is silly, but they are today’s videos. The site is bogged down for me now; I was watching stuff as it posted with no problem, now, all of the sudden, I can’t get anything.

[QUOTE=ACMEeventing;8303937]
Why do I keep getting last year’s videos? What’s the link for the current videos, if you please.[/QUOTE]

http://vod2015.burghley.tv/

Also, the date is formatted day/month/year. Many countries format it that way! :wink:

[QUOTE=McGurk;8303943]
For some reason, all the videos are dated 5/9/2015, which is silly, but they are today’s videos. The site is bogged down for me now; I was watching stuff as it posted with no problem, now, all of the sudden, I can’t get anything.[/QUOTE]

Because they are British: 5 Sept 2015 (how the rest of the world writes dates) :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=Winding Down;8303923]
Rubbish. Lynn is fabulous and I doubt you understand riding straight.

I wondered how long it would take for someone from this group to drag us down.

Geeze oh Pete. Give it a rest.[/QUOTE]

Ouch, my feelings are almost hurt :lol: I was there cheering them on; maybe you need to toughen up a bit & realize that one critical remark is not a personal attack on what is shaping up to be a lovely trip to Burhley for Lynn. There were no 10’s awarded so something somewhere for everyone wasn’t perfect. How dare I suggest that. LMAO. It’s nice to be across the pond where one can engage in discussion - of both the positives and negatives of each ride - without ones knickers getting in a twist.

[QUOTE=McGurk;8303943]
For some reason, all the videos are dated 5/9/2015, which is silly, but they are today’s videos. The site is bogged down for me now; I was watching stuff as it posted with no problem, now, all of the sudden, I can’t get anything.[/QUOTE]

:lol::eek::lol::eek::lol::eek:

[QUOTE=Sticky Situation;8303962]
Because they are British: 5 Sept 2015 (how the rest of the world writes dates) :)[/QUOTE]

:yes:

I didn’t know all that about Laine’s first name - I thought everyone was pronouncing the ending ‘e’ and that’s how I always read it. :winkgrin: It’s a pretty name, either way.

[QUOTE=McGurk;8303718]
I just watched Laine and Anthony Patch’s go and I thought it looked like exactly what it was - an ambitious rider without previous experience at this level gaining experience on a nice horse that she trusts. Seemed to be a very credible effort.

He finished looking fit and game, so clearly conditioning was not an issue.

It also looked like she choose some of the long routes and wasn’t worried about time, which was a good choice.

I thought that at the first refusal he looked genuinely confused, like he didn’t understand the question. He was looking for the next jumping effort but didn’t think the boat was it. Once he understood WHAT the question he was; he was fine. I was no idea how you would even set up a schooling question that would mimic that, no ideas how you would prepare for it.

I understand that a lot of folks just don’t.like.Laine. and that’s fine. I just don’t see how you can look at that xc trip and conclude that she shouldn’t have been there or it was a bad decision to compete.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=snoopy;8303832]I agree.

This was one of the nicest rounds I think I have ever seen her ride. She put on her big girl pants, rode sensibly and learnt a lot today. So far, after two phases, she has put in a credible performance. Yes, she had two stops. This isn’t a championships and they seemed genuine. Regardless of where she finishes at the end, this girl just showed the world that she has grown up and is very capable of making the right decisions on what is arguably the most difficult four star course in the world.

Well done to you Lainey.[/QUOTE]

Just watched her round, and I agree with both the above. She and Al take care of each other, first and foremost. I love the partnership they have.

Based on this round and past competitions as well, Laine is another one I would like to see well-mounted on more 4* horses. She could do this country a lot of credit. It is time for the US team to move forward and I think Laine would do well for us.

But I think Al is no longer the one for this level, though. It would be interesting to hear Laine’s take on Al’s Burghley. I thought she rode him very effectively, did what needed to be done, but hopefully recognized that he wasn’t quite as quick on his feet as he once was … and he knows it. A great jumper starting to have some second thoughts now and again.

The first water stop - yes, there was a hole or something. It looked to me like he lost his focus and line for an instant and just didn’t get it back together in time, against the water pulling on his legs. She handled it just right.

The Trout Hatchery was simple quickness not being quick enough.

The longer lines were the right plan for them. I am glad Laine had this trip and was clearly very well coached for the effort. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=WasthatC;8303752]
The end of Movistar’s ride was sad. That horse was exhausted and literally couldn’t stay on his feet.
I realize they were very close to finishing but he should have retired coming out of the stadium.[/QUOTE]

Here is the rather galling thing…The horse is owned by Angela Tucker, often part of many ground juries. She is not one to mince words and to have her rider press a tired horse, which IMO, bordered on dangerous, is something that will surely be addressed. The lights were definitely out on that horse.

CONGRATULATIONS to TIM and OBIE! That was beautiful. I teared up as they jumped the last one. Nobody deserves it more. So happy for Bourke Eventing. Such a class act.

I think if I were Laine, had a 16 year old who’d been around Rolex a few times, was fit and sound, and I wanted to go to Burghley - I’d go. Who knows when she might get that opportunity again? So she didn’t have a perfect round, but she went, she put her money and skills on the line, and she’ll probably finish. Better than probably 99% of the readership of this board has done.

[QUOTE=flyingchange;8304012]
CONGRATULATIONS to TIM and OBIE! That was beautiful. I teared up as they jumped the last one. Nobody deserves it more. So happy for Bourke Eventing. Such a class act.[/QUOTE]

He’s certainly a well bred horse! I think I’m going to have to look up a video.

[QUOTE=OverandOnward;8304008]

But I think Al is no longer the one for this level, though. It would be interesting to hear Laine’s take on Al’s Burghley. I thought she rode him very effectively, did what needed to be done, but hopefully recognized that he wasn’t quite as quick on his feet as he once was … and he knows it. A great jumper starting to have some second thoughts now and again.

The longer lines were the right plan for them. I am glad Laine had this trip and was clearly very well coached for the effort. :)[/QUOTE]

This horse has always struck me as being an ADV HT’s horse with the occasional 3 star CIC/CCI thrown in…and there ain’t no shame in that!!! I think he is the perfect type of horse that sets someone up for the Badmintons and Burghleys down the road. Some horses only have one TRUE four star in them and I think this may very well be the case with AL. This horse has helped her to mature as a rider and I would go so far as to say that she is virtually unrecognizable from her Frodo days.

The timing of the effort is spot on. Both horse and rider were ready for the challenge. Rider needed the opportunity to experience a BIG true foreign 4 star and at 16, really it was now or never for Al. IMO, this was a great investment from the establishment in Lainey. She now needs the horse power.

Have to note this - all 3 American riders showed what the Canadians showed just after DOC took over as their coach - that is, thorough coaching and mental plan for the ride. :slight_smile:

Lines, turns, distances, speed, routes, all very specific and tidy. There was a Plan, and no doubt an A, B and C version of the Plan based on what happened. :yes:

For this team and this coach to be their most effective requires coach-able riders. I’m sure that is always part of the team criteria, but it very much needs to be so for the duration of DOC. This could work. :slight_smile:

Er - is the reason there hasn’t been more posting in the Burghley thread because everyone is over in the h/j forum reading the Colvin thread? That was quite a read, plus the transcript, lucky that broke on a holiday weekend … :o… whatever our complaints, thank god for eventing. :yes:

Um… I may have read the entire Colvin thread. A lunge, a hack or two, 9 tubes of “paste”, and GABA before jumping a 4’+ round?

No thanks!

[QUOTE=Sticky Situation;8303962]
Because they are British: 5 Sept 2015 (how the rest of the world writes dates) :)[/QUOTE]

Sheepish grin

[QUOTE=OverandOnward;8304028]Have to note this - all 3 American riders showed what the Canadians showed just after DOC took over as their coach - that is, thorough coaching and mental plan for the ride. :slight_smile:

Lines, turns, distances, speed, routes, all very specific and tidy. There was a Plan, and no doubt an A, B and C version of the Plan based on what happened. :yes:

For this team and this coach to be their most effective requires coach-able riders. I’m sure that is always part of the team criteria, but it very much needs to be so for the duration of DOC. This could work. :slight_smile:

Er - is the reason there hasn’t been more posting in the Burghley thread because everyone is over in the h/j forum reading the Colvin thread? That was quite a read, plus the transcript, lucky that broke on a holiday weekend … :o… whatever our complaints, thank god for eventing. :yes:[/QUOTE]

You are never allowed to stop posting on COTH (just so you know).

[QUOTE=vineyridge;8303846]
Given that Mary King was given a yellow card with attached suspension last year for dangerous riding before she retired, I wonder of the GJ will have the guts to yellow card Movistar’s rider. They certainly ought to.[/QUOTE]

Terrible to watch.