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I know Rosenthal is much more a Hunter and Dressage stallion but does he have any kids going the Eventer route?[/QUOTE]
He isn’t approved Hanoverian. I thought of him as well but it looks like he is approved Swedish and has a lifetime license with GOV.
Oh boo, you’re right 
Windfall, the Trakehner, not the Hanoverian, is AHS and Hano Verband approved and is even in the jumper program. He is onbviously proven at the top level of the sport, and has offspring at advanced and beyond.
He does not have chestnut offspring as far as I know, and I know many 
You can probably check with the owner and find out quickly.
As for stallion searches in general … it would help to know what kind of mare(s) you are looking for.
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Windfall, the Trakehner, not the Hanoverian, is AHS and Hano Verband approved and is even in the jumper program. He is onbviously proven at the top level of the sport, and has offspring at advanced and beyond.
He does not have chestnut offspring as far as I know, and I know many You can probably check with the owner and find out quickly.
As for stallion searches in general … it would help to know what kind of mare(s) you are looking for.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, here she is : http://www.equusmagnificus.ca/ 
I’ll look at Windfall, I’m not opposed to Trakehners at all, as long as they are approved Hano at this stage.
I don’t know if Lokomotion is homozygous dark, but I didn’t see any chestnut offspring when I was looking at him. He is by Lordanos, a jumper sire, and has gone to the FEI level in both jumping and dressage. I think he is very attractive, and not a heavy type. Approved Hanoverian and in Canada.
Diarado is black isn’t he? And very much jumper bloodlines and performance history
Sir Oldenburg I love but only very few are doing something other then dressage from what I could find
They are hard to find in a jumper model!
Typically, I wouldn’t bother and just figure out that I’ll keep them until they are old enough to ride, but it’s riskier and as I said… I need to sweeten up the deal with my SO. :-\
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They are hard to find in a jumper model!
Typically, I wouldn’t bother and just figure out that I’ll keep them until they are old enough to ride, but it’s riskier and as I said… I need to sweeten up the deal with my SO. :-[/QUOTE]
Sagnol at Dreamscape Farm is homozygous for black points. He is Sandro Hit on top but good jumper lines in the damline, coming from the phenomenal stamm 776. His son, Sandro’s Star, attended the Bundes for eventing in the fall. I saw him last spring and was really taken by him; I’m excited to be breeding my Trakehner (Heling) mare to him this year. I’m not sure what your specific breeding goal is, but he might tick the boxes for you.
ETA: Somehow forgot that Sagnol is not Hanoverian approved, unfortunately!
Just another suggestion Rubinero is Homozygous Blk approved HAN. He was just recently aquired by Dream Street Stallions to the US. Didnt do poorly on his Jumping in his testing with115 placed 9th for jumping, obviously higher in his Dressage score 140 placed 2nd.
I liked the San City (hadn’t heard of him before) suggestion as well. Was wondering if he is True black as his mane and tail have some fading in some of the photos? Maybe a Black bay is there some brown on his muzzle, I thought I saw that in the photos not a negative at all. Overall though he is just lovely.
I had never heard of San City… I just wanted to say HOLY COW I’m impressed!
Samson (San City) to my knowledge has never been tested genetically. He does live out quite a bit and may be sunbleached somewhat ;). He appears to be black when you see him in person - but may be a very dark black bay, as I said, he’s not been tested. He is very much a “family” horse too - I’ll vouch for his temperament. Katie and I joke about our “mean” “scary” boys all the time :). Her only complaint on him (and this is a very small complaint - really) is that he needs a bit more “oomph” which is why she is adding blood through the mares to him - I’d think with a forward TB he would produce a very awesome event horse. He does have a kid (a 4 year old gelding) that I know for a fact that Katie pulled out of the pasture the day of a show and took to Poplar Place in Jan. He had never even schooled XC or had only done a couple of jumps at home, and had only done one course at 2’6" once before at a schooling show. He went out, won the dressage with a score in the mid 20’s, had some faults in SJ, and I think maybe TPs in XC (maybe not even that) and came in 3rd. He was the fill in for another horse that was supposed to run but who came in from the paddock the night before lame so she swaped that horse with Diego and ran BN with him. Very good brains on the kids.
Katie and I became friends because of our boys - they are the same age and we live so close to each other etc. We have both been through the same stuff together LOL.
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Sagnol at Dreamscape Farm is homozygous for black points. He is Sandro Hit on top but good jumper lines in the damline, coming from the phenomenal stamm 776. His son, Sandro’s Star, attended the Bundes for eventing in the fall. I saw him last spring and was really taken by him; I’m excited to be breeding my Trakehner (Heling) mare to him this year. I’m not sure what your specific breeding goal is, but he might tick the boxes for you.[/QUOTE]
Goal is eventing prospect.
I like a sensitive yet sensible ride, my mare and her daughter (whom I am just breaking to ride as well as her oldest daughter I lost last year) are sensitive, but incredibly smart and sensible. Very trainable and energetic. Perfect combination IMO.
The only thing I would improve on my mare is adding swing/elasticity. Otherwise, she’s fabulous. :winkgrin:
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Sir Wanabi yet. He already stands in Quebec, he’s a hanoverian, and as far as I know he’s homozygous for black. He’s currently competing over fences with his amateur owner, and there’s video on the web of him being ridden by an 8 year old.
Oh… and he’s simply STUNNING.
If I had discovered him ONE MONTH EARLIER, my filly would have had a different daddy…
Whoops he’s in Ontario now… but for some reason my brain keeps telling me he used to be in Quebec… huh, oh well. I’ll blame the head cold.
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Goal is eventing prospect.
I like a sensitive yet sensible ride, my mare and her daughter (whom I am just breaking to ride as well as her oldest daughter I lost last year) are sensitive, but incredibly smart and sensible. Very trainable and energetic. Perfect combination IMO.
The only thing I would improve on my mare is adding swing/elasticity. Otherwise, she’s fabulous. :winkgrin:[/QUOTE]
Not to take anything away from any of the fabulous boys mentioned, but if you want eventing, you simply cannot do better than Windfall. Olympic level talent; superior pedigree, proven producer.
Not cheap, but certainly at the top of the heap.
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Not to take anything away from any of the fabulous boys mentioned, but if you want eventing, you simply cannot do better than Windfall. Olympic level talent; superior pedigree, proven producer.
Not cheap, but certainly at the top of the heap.[/QUOTE]
I’ve always been a huge fan of Windfall as a competition horse and he is certainly proven in performance, but he has yet to produce anything that is of his calibre, IMO. I’ve seen some of the Windfall babies: a lot are small (15.2-15.3) and they’ve promised a lot but most that I’ve seen that looked really promising in the YEH series and at the lower levels haven’t made it past Prelim, even in the hands of team riders. I really like Windfall himself but he wouldn’t be my top choice, especially considering his stud fee: if I’m going to pay that kind of money to breed to a stallion, he’d better be producing top level horses.
If you were willing to consider Trakehner, you might go with Buddenbrock. Not homozygous but certainly PROVEN in terms of producing top level offspring in dressage and eventing.
Fabuleux
Fabuleux is homozygous for black, Hanoverian, and has many successful offspring in the hunter ring and some eventers, as well as super dressage ones of course. I have a 4 year old and I hope to event him. My boy is very ammy friendly, smart, athletic, easy to train, with three beautiful expressive gaits.
http://www.bridlewoodhanoverians.com/fabuleux.php
Click on the button that says “View Offspring” to see pics & vids of his babies jumping.
Isn’t Lagoheidor homozygous? Definitely a dual talent!
I also have a Freestyle coming from a multitalented dressage/hunter mare. Due in July. You’re welcome to come see that foal, beowulf. Love the Dreamscape stallions too and highly recommend Jen.
Escudo I and II - I believe are Homozygous…
Actually I take that back - there are chestnut babies…
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