Yoga, Pilates, or both?

I am struggling with my hips and thighs being too tight, which results in my lower legs being off the horse and my toes tipping out. Although I’m not overweight, my fitness level isn’t great. I used to be a runner, and that has left me with feet that are prone to injury so I need to do exercise that is low shock. Pools are out. So that leads me to yoga and pilates, which are good for riders anyway. Given my struggle with leg position and my lack of fitness, would I benefit most from yoga or pilates or should I really concentrate on both?

Does anyone know of any at home dvd’s yoga or pilates workouts that are good for a newbie? I’ve never done either!

I would check out Betsy Steiner’s website. She has some material specifically for riders - “Equilates” I think it’s called.

I’ve found the pilates very useful for loosening up my tight hamstrings and hip flexors so I can adjust my position in the saddle more easily and “flow” with the horse a bit more.

As for yoga, I think it would depend on which kind. There are a myriad of different styles, some of which focus more on meditation and breathing and others which are more about strength and/or balance.

What I’ve found works best for me is a combination of low-impact cardio like road cycling (outdoors) or elliptical machines in the gym in addition to the pilates. I do throw in a bit of yoga, mainly Jillian Michael’s version since it is about both cardio and balance. I’ve found that in mixing things up I’m more likely to workout regularly since I don’t get bored from doing the same thing every day. That and I get to work on different aspects of my fitness.

I am doing both right now, but I really like pilates. It seems more focused and to make more of a difference. I have REALLY bad joint issues, like I can’t put weight on knees, wrists, or elbows, and some yoga is too painful. Pilates seems to involve less movement, but it seems more intense, and I really like the focus on the breathing, which is always good for riding.

I have some major issues with one hip, as in not being able to sit cross legged, and I think the pilates really helps that. It also has some moves which does some wonderful back and hip cracking, which I love.

I love Mari Winsor’s 20 Minute Workout. A very nice introduction to pilates. I feel great after doing it and it really helps with my posture and riding. Here’s a link to it:

http://www.amazon.com/Winsor-Pilates-20-Minute-Workout/dp/B000E4C2TY

I am doing both.
I started with Mari Winsor’s dvds for pilates. What I have found is that a DVD is NO replacement for a GOOD instructor. I do pilates with a licensed instructor and it is FAR better than the DVD. My instructor watches carefully to make sure my alignment is better and therefore the work is better.

Yoga is the same. I have talked to multiple people who are taking yoga with a “gym” instructor. It doesn’t even equate with the yoga I am doing. Like you, I have multiple injuries which prevent me doing a class with other people. My yoga instructor has been doing yoga longer than I have been alive (I am 43) and is an instructor to instructors. I can go to Diane and say “My riding instructor says that I do X.” The next week, Diane has come up with a great stretch that fixes my problems.
The right instructor makes all the difference. BTW, my yoga combines both stretching and meditating. The two SHOULD go hand in hand.

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Yoga hands down.

Yoga! I love the Yoga Zone dvds.

I am much more a fan of Pilates… I have yet to find a Yoga instructor who can find postures for me that are safe for my injury prone shoulders and elbows and my gimpy old broken wrist. I have the Mari Windsor DVD’s for at home, but I also have attended classes with several instructors (one of whom isn’t teaching publicly right now, boo!!). But honestly, in terms of the core strength and fine muscle tuning for riding, I have never been able to beat Pilates. It also reshaped my body in ways that just weight training and cardio never did. I think if you combine a weekly or bi-weekly class for correct form and follow up at home you should be good. Take classes at a few different places if it’s available to you to find an instructor you really like.

I found when I tried pilates (after doing yoga for several years) that it left me tense afterwards. I just didn’t like the fact that it felt like an hour long ab crunch. :stuck_out_tongue:

Yoga left me feeling both well-stretch and relaxed and it really built up my strength. In the year, I found a fantastic flow class that is performed in a heated room that is invigorating and relaxing at the same time. Because it is a flow, it is a bit of a cardio workout too. Because it is yoga, I come out really well stretched. :slight_smile:

If I had more time, I would personally do both. But since I don’t, Pilates won the contest. I love it. I will ditto JJARAB re the class thing. technique is important, and you can also talk to the trainer re how you can specifically address your hip problems.

What I like is that I have not only stronger in my core, but much more aware of what happens to one body part when I move another…

I forget who put it together, but there is a book, and probably DVD called Pilates for Dressage Riders.

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I forget who put it together, but there is a book, and probably DVD called Pilates for Dressage Riders.[/QUOTE]

Yup a book and DVD by Janice Dulak. There are a few others, too.

ETA - check out Callanetics, too. Nice, low-impact, fine-muscle-tuning workout.

Part of it probably depends on the instructor/trainer - I picked Pilates because there was an instructor in the area that was also a rider so I was getting what I needed for my riding. I like that I’ve learned how to stretch my hamstrings and tighten my core;) Agree with posters - I don’t have time for two. I’d try both, see which one addresses your needs - again, I think it is partly the instructor you use.

If you can, do both. Otherwise, I will do Yoga first to heighten my whole body awareness and then add Pilates. I have been doing both for years, and the difference on my riding is unbelievable. They complement each other really well, and I think the combination of both makes the sum of each even greater.

If you have physical issues that you’re trying to straighten out, I would do Pilates, but not (at least initially) in a class, but rather one on one with an instructor.

Pilates actually started as a kind of physical therapy and a well-trained instructor will listen to the issues that you have and design sessions that work on those issues.

Pilates mat classes do tend to focus mostly on building core muscles (abs and back), with other exercises added. They’re good but they’re not a substitute for one on one session that use a variety of the machines and equipment.

My vote would be for yoga, since I teach “yoga for equestrians” classes four times per week. But I know that people love pilates, too. I think it all depends on the instructor you’re working with and having her meet the needs of your level of ability (due to injury or conformation or experience) with the level of your activity (how often do you ride, what type of riding you do, what are the challenges you face).

All my classes start with focus on breath and I stress the importance of breath throughout. I’ve done a whole class on breathing and how to use it to calm yourself while riding (based on my own experiences!). I’ve done classes on “energy” and how to use energy in your practice (and with your horse); I’ve done classes on concentration vs. attention (think hard eyes, soft eyes) and using it in the practice, etc. Of course, the postures are done throughout, but because riding is so much a mental game as well as a physical game, I try to incorporate ideas other than just postures.

I tend to focus on three areas in my classes - hips, abs, shoulders, as these are obviously really important in riding. We work on all three in each class, but sometimes we focus more on one vs. the other (yesterday we spent more time on hip openers, for example). We also work a lot on balance and body awareness and working toward achieving symmetry, as we know how important that is for our horses.

The more I do yoga (and I’ve been practicing for almost 15 years), the more I’m able to access my body in the saddle, and the less my body hurts (shoulder pain from an old injury is gone, back pain is a fraction of what it used to be). Yoga is similar to riding in that there are a lot of pieces of alignment that need to fit together in order to safely and successfully execute a position - just like there are a lot of pieces to proper position in the saddle. I think they complement each other in that way - think of your lessons and how your instructor may say “shorten your reins” or “relax through your shoulders” or “right leg back” or whatever it may be. Yoga postures involve the same type of fine-tuning.

I’ve also found the meditative aspects of yoga helpful in my riding. Slowing the breathing down, sitting quietly, and clearing my mind of stress and clutter really help in potentially stressful riding situations (new horse starting to show, for example). I don’t know that pilates works on meditation and “mindfulness” (above and beyond being present in your practice).

I hope you can find a good instructor no matter what you choose. I have a faithful group of students who are all dressage riders, and they have commented that they’ve gained strength, flexibility, balance, body awareness, pain relief, and a way of dealing with stress while working around their horses.


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Another vote for pilates…and ditto with doing one-on-one sessions first.

I did yoga for awhile, and while the stretching was great, it just didn’t ever get to the root of my hip and back problems. I have seen huge improvements in my riding since starting pilates.

Janice Dulack’s books are great. Sarah Martin in Colorado works with her, and brings her in for clinics occassionally. I even gave my copy to my pilates instructor, and we have been working through some of the exercises together.

I’m currently working one-on-one once a week with my pilates instructor, then doing a reformer class once a week. With just 2 sessions a week, I have found tremendous improvement in my breathing, staminia, and back and hip issues. I really wish I had before and after video to share…because the change is really dramatic.

I think the one thing yoga teaches very well is the ability to take yourself out of your head and focus on just what your body is doing. This is great for riders who start thinking too much and stop doing/riding. It helps me tremendously with making sure I whole mind is focused on what my body (and my horse as an extension of my body) is doing and what I/he needs to do to get a desired result.

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pilates, far better for riding issues than yoga, especially if you include ball exercises into the workout. Pilates is about strengthening the core muscles of the body, good for everyone. I’m not sure what yoga is about- being relaxed? being flexible? I never felt like I’d done anything after a yoga session, but you should feel like you had a serious hard workout after a pilates session.

No- Yoga is far from relaxation - unless you want to flop down on your back all the time lol. Yoga is a lot about maintaining body position till your whole body aligns correctly (and that can be extremely challenging, to make all your tiny muscle works together with your very strong core without opposite opposition so as not to unbalance you). In order to achieve perfect equilibrium, all your muscle must work in harmony together, and Yoga teaches you that. Even maintaining proper meditative posture can be exhausting if you don’t put your body correctly. It is a lot more strenuous than it looks.

If you find Yoga nothing but relaxation, you have found the wrong instructor, or got into the wrong class. There are plenty of Yoga classes geared toward old folks - those will be focused on relaxation and release of tension.

I myself equates Yoga to Dressage. You have to love to feel how each tiny muscle of your body affects your whole, and learn how to engage/disengage individual muscles to maintain a powerful position. This is actually why some horses love dressage and some hate it. Some love to feel his own body and some just loves to blow through a jump. I’d say dressage is horses equivalent of yoga. :wink:

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pilates, far better for riding issues than yoga, especially if you include ball exercises into the workout. Pilates is about strengthening the core muscles of the body, good for everyone. I’m not sure what yoga is about- being relaxed? being flexible? I never felt like I’d done anything after a yoga session, but you should feel like you had a serious hard workout after a pilates session.[/QUOTE]

I’m not sure how you can say pilates is so much better than yoga when you don’t know what yoga is about.

Yoga helped my sitting trot immensely. The pilates helps too…but I had to loosen my back first.