I’d sure like to see what video the judges are basing their decision on.
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I’m so glad. Sucks for Grave, but fairly minor injuries all considering
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Re: the ditch, Liz said something about the white sand after the ditch that she didn’t think the horses were seeing the ditch well? Not sure if the one she was talking about is the same one the others had trouble at or not.
Ros: My take on the video is that she went over the fence, but I don’t know that I’d say she went over inside where the flag would have been had it stayed up. Tough call, but hard on that video to overturn the original call
I missed the first 30 odd riders this morning so I’m watching the replay now on CBC Gem and there are no commercials. YAY! This morning live there were commercials at the most inopportune times! During the top-placed riders and during the Canadian rides… I was rather grumpy about it but am very glad for the replay being commercial free and on demand!
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So I’m watching the replay on USA Network. The rider from China was assessed a 15pt flag penalty. Did they not jump inside the flags? I don’t understand why knocking a flag with a leg on the way over should involve a penalty if the horse cleared the fence in the process.
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it is very common to hit the flags when the jumps are such that there is a tiny window or a seriously angled fence, they fly off. But some are charged and some are not!
I want another look at that ditch, and now I cannot find the cross country course.
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do dressage and show jumpers have to jog?
Yep
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Thanks for that update. I’m watching the Peacock stream, and there seems to be, by design I suspect, almost ZERO follow-up on any situation that could conceivably be construed as even remotely negative — e.g., the falls and faults. The feed never showed what ended up happening with the 21-year-old horse and his 57-year-old rider after they had that stop / runout — the video cut away just as they were about to re-present. 
(PLUS, I love Lucinda, but I cannot hear a goddamn word she’s saying! thank dog for closed captioning!)
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the 21 year old horse fell at the last water. I think you are confusing him with the Polish horse that had two refusals at one of the waters, and was probably going to refuse again and he put his hand up and stopped.
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Rider popped off of Wundermaske jumping into the last water. Rider was up & horse took a nice run around checking out the crowd
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Finally NBC (Via USA Network) showed XC in it’s entirety with some minor edits. About damn time.
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It just looked like some of them didn’t put their landing down….maybe expecting a ground line that never came?
I feel it’s a question where you really need to let the horse take a second to look and see.
as soon as I saw that ditch I knew it would be a problem!
Whenever I go xc lessons or clinics and the babies jump a half ditch and the experienced horses go to jump them they always look and sometimes even stop. Just something about them or the way the riders ride them, maybe on greener horses we ride really positive in the back door type of thing, whereas experienced riders don’t think much of it and maybe ride it more like a spread.
somewhat agree, I didn’t find it looked that bad when they didn’t jump it great. I think the riders just didn’t ride it properly.
Not saying I could do better… like at all lol
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thank you for this update!
Aha! Thxx! (ETA: Just rewatched — they did have a runout in the “Whimsical Woods,” after which the video abruptly cut to another ride. Ronald’s fall in the water came a bit later, and I apparently missed seeing it.)
I DID miss that! thanks! (ETA, I just ran the tape back — they did have a runout in the “Whimsical Woods,” and then a bit later Ronald fell in the water. I must have been “freshening up” at that moment! 
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I’m still only halfway through. As a newly minted extra-senior rider, I really pulled for 21 y.o. Forever Young Wundermaske and 57 y.o. Ronald Zabala of Ecuador. The sweetheart of a gelding landed hard in the water, hind end waaaay up, and Señor Zabala didn’t have a chance. His dismount was as elegant as possible given the circumstances.
I loved that Wundermaske cantered around looking to be directed at something else to jump with a, “What are we doing next?” look on his face.
Edited for clarity. Meh.
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