26 Welsh ponies in danger in Michigan

Echo, I don’t think you need to talk in code. I know the owner from previous sales. We are not best friends but, I do know what has happened to her and have contact with her.

She has alot goinig on in her life and as I stated she will do her best to try and gather the info. She owes no one anything! her entire life was just torn to shreds…resale of the ponies that were taken from her (not for neglect) is not her problem. FYI, I am a hunter jumper trainer and papers mean nothing for a great gelding…I know 6 figure horses without papers. For a mare sure it can help if she if for possible breeding but, a good horse is a good horse regardless

This woman owes nothing to anyone and just hopes her “kids” are loved on the way she would…can you even imagine???

One eyed mares name is …Hope

[QUOTE=stryder;4252890]
Any word on the special needs kids? The sweet one-eyed mare? The mare with the (maybe) abscessed tooth?

Anyone had the vet out yet, or been able to make an assessment?

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I bought Hope and she is doing wonderful. Calm and quiet and taking in all the attention. She has not spooked at one thing. This pony is very well trained and must have been treated with alot of kind hands, she is so trusting and lets us do everything. We bathed her and cleaned her bad eye and she didn’t flinch, just closed her other eye in contentment. Someone loved and worked with her, she was a gem when we rode her with a pad and halter …obeyed every command. She is a good weight and seems healthy but will have vet out to ck over and see options with eye. We just love her !!!

Some useful info below

I was very glad you emailed me and have passed your email along…

also here is some info for others that might be useful. The site is down but, somehow I got to this…

http://www.palustrinefarm.com/foals/index.html

jUST FOR FUN $90 PONY (DARK) AND #18 (KODA, GRAY)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RdQKlF7xuk

OH MY! they are amazing! :-)))))))))))))))))

Such a great jump, and boy, movement to spare! Congrats!

I’ll try and get video of the palomino we got (#6). She was listed as 2, but seems younger then that? Any guesses?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RdQKlF7xuk[/QUOTE]

SO CUTE! Ponies rock :smiley:

http://www.palustrinefarm.com/foals/index.html
I can only find GIGI on the 2006 and there was a 3 yr old Pal

I have another list and your pony could be Marigold. I think you already emailed me if so I have passed it along

THIS IS ABOUT THE MARE WITH THE HOCK FOR WHOEVER GOT HER:
Tess is a beautiful AQHA mare that we have owned for a few years. She comes from some awesome Quarter Horse bloodlines, but as a youngster she fractured a hock in the pasture and was not trained as a result. She came to our farm to make lots of pretty babies for us. We have had two foals by Glyncadno Cisco… a beautiful Palomino Filly from 2006 and a Black (turning Grey) colt from 2007.

Hey, in digging up info for people i did find out about the sheep. She was unaware they were going through the auction and knew they were pregnant and this is a quote from her to them. I’m glad they were Ok after the sale!

“2 PREGNANT SHETLAND SHEEP”

except a loss of recognition for both his parents and his breeder…

I have a couple friends in MI and I emailed them this link and let them know about the situation the ponies were in. So after I read here that they were all rescued she sent me this email:

Guys, my neice was there with Erin (formerly of Martha’s barn) and she told me that the Muirhead brothers got some of them. :frowning: I don’t know if that’s for sure or not … just what she said and she didn’t know how many they got.

I’m guessing the Muirhead brithers are kill buyers?
Maybe they got a few of the first ponies that went for $100-$175.

The $90 pony is a steal, he jumps so cute.

[QUOTE=Susan P;4253927]
I have a couple friends in MI and I emailed them this link and let them know about the situation the ponies were in. So after I read here that they were all rescued she sent me this email:

Guys, my neice was there with Erin (formerly of Martha’s barn) and she told me that the Muirhead brothers got some of them. :frowning: I don’t know if that’s for sure or not … just what she said and she didn’t know how many they got.[/QUOTE]

No O’neal and his borther did not get any of them as far as I could tell. He left with an empty trailer. From what I know he had bid on the AQHA mare with the bad hock but Tiempo’s friend ended up with her and she is now at Horse’s Haven.

Jess

[QUOTE=Jess EB;4253967]
No O’neal and his borther did not get any of them as far as I could tell. He left with an empty trailer. From what I know he had bid on the AQHA mare with the bad hock but Tiempo’s friend ended up with her and she is now at Horse’s Haven.

Jess[/QUOTE]

doesn’t matter they wouldn’t have sent these to kill anyways (they probably all would have wound up with me!:lol:) They don’t do much with kill horses anymore, not worth the money…

YES, but, if the breeder does not care or is unable that is her choice…

as for kill buyers they would have had to spend quite a bit and per pound those going for less then $200 were not big…So, I also do not think any ponies went to KB’s

it is the rare breeder that takes that position…after all…there is a mountain of paperwork involved in getting a prefix,sending the stallion report,sending the registration papers after birth, taking countless photos, hair samples,sending the transfer to have someone say “oh what a cute jump he has” and throwing away all that work

the stallion in question has a full brother one year older(or is it younger??) than he is, in Cananda who is well known and makes fancy hunter partbreds…his stud fee is higher his get are advertised and proclaimed and so on…

I cannot help but wonder how many colts in the US MI stallions 14 foal crops are lost and gone to hunters who “don’t care about papers on a gelding”…all this did was make him worth next to nothing and in part, brought on the circumstances which have unfolded…?

which is sad as the mare lines from Glyncado are found in some nice enough stallions here and there…

had you never considered that maybe just maybe had the horse’s get had better recognition a bunch of ponies would not have been sent to a local sale barn ??

that maybe they would have gotten the attention (right down to a full page notice on the WPSCA website) as the Canada sale did ??

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doesn’t matter they wouldn’t have sent these to kill anyways (they probably all would have wound up with me!:lol:) They don’t do much with kill horses anymore, not worth the money…[/QUOTE]

Don’t know where you get your info, but that is still how O’Neil makes his living. He was invited by te auctioneers because he always “cleans up” and takes anything that otherwise won’t sell.

The QH mare did go to Horse’s Haven and will have a home for life.

The Muirhead brothers were on the stairs but disappeared after I bought the 1st pony for $275. Their trailer was no longer there at the end of the auction.

ALERT TO THOSE WHO BOUGHT MARES

It has been verified by a vet that #28 is IN FACT cryptorchid. He has one testicle that is still there. Your mares could possibly be bred since they were all in together at one point. More than likely he is not fertile, but there is always a chance! This is the type of retention he has:

Temporary inguinal retention is the condition that holds the most hope for the horse’s owner. The retained testicle may be palpable within the inguinal canal with the horse standing, but will certainly be palpable with the horse laid down under anesthesia. The right testicle is the one most commonly affected (in more than three-quarters of cases). With this type of retention the testicle will usually descend of it’s own volition by the time the colt is three years of age, although cases of it not descending until the horse is six have been recorded. In this type of retention, the testicle can sometimes be aided in it’s descent by treating the animal with hCG (human chorionic gonadotropin), which will artificially stimulate the natural testosterone production, thereby encouraging descent.

if anyone is interested in a well bred mare that went through the Cllynncopa Dispersal Sale, a good friend of mine bought one of the mares as a future medium pony hunter for her daughter, the pony has been living at my farm and I measured her the other day and she measures at 13.3hh, owners have decided to resell the mare since they do not have any interest in having a large pony or a potential broodmare.

if you’d like more information on the pony please PM me or e-mail willowbrookstables@sympatico.ca

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It has been verified by a vet that #28 is IN FACT cryptorchid. He has one testicle that is still there. Your mares could possibly be bred since they were all in together at one point. More than likely he is not fertile, but there is always a chance! This is the type of retention he has:[/QUOTE]

Thank you Kingsboro for verifying what we already believed. I have alerted the new owner’s of Baby’s Breath also, as she looks a tad suspicious.

[QUOTE=Iron Horse Farm;4254308]
Don’t know where you get your info, but that is still how O’Neil makes his living. He was invited by te auctioneers because he always “cleans up” and takes anything that otherwise won’t sell.

The QH mare did go to Horse’s Haven and will have a home for life.

The Muirhead brothers were on the stairs but disappeared after I bought the 1st pony for $275. Their trailer was no longer there at the end of the auction.[/QUOTE]

Well I can tell you that first only one of them was there, that was O’neill. ok let me rephrase that, when I got there, which was late, only O’Neil was there. He was there the whole sale in the pen. My truck was parked next to the trailer which was there when I went to pay for my pony. He was invited by the Auctioneers so they could let slip that there was a kill buyer in the audience and that would boost bids, the auction house gets a 25% commission… of course they wanted people to think they were saving these poor ponies.

As far as O’neil “cleaning” up, your right. He takes what there is, puts them in his pasture and has one of the girls ride them and then sells them. In the case of these ponies he would have had one of the girls break them and then send them to one of the schooling barns or me. O’neil knows a good horse when there is one.

As far as him making his living off of selling horses for meat…Do you know what it cost to ship a trailer of horses into Canada? Do you know the price of meat per pound? If you did then you know that even with a trailer load of cheap ponies he would barely break even. Trust me in that he does not make a living in selling horses for meat. There is no longer a living to be made by selling slaughter horses (and people wonder at the surplus of starved horses…but that’s a whole different topic) Even when meat was a good market he sold the ones that were good, sound, and sane to people. and shipped the old or lame to slaughter.