[QUOTE=Summit Springs Farm;7640937]
ah, no black tack, local or any other hunter show, would you use hu8nter tack at a dressage show?[/QUOTE]
If it was what I had, absolutely. Many on the dressage forum recommend it to newbies until their horses change shape.
[QUOTE=Summit Springs Farm;7640937]
ah, no black tack, local or any other hunter show, would you use hu8nter tack at a dressage show?[/QUOTE]
I do!
Not only did I used to ride my hunter in black tack-i used the same darn close contact saddle and vignette bridle to show him 1st level.
Now that was back in the early 90s.
However, I have told my dressage trainer that I will not be caught dead in white full seat breeches. My happy hinnie will be sitting in my French jumping saddle (brown) and covered in my buff/tan pytchley breeches. Thank you very much. Furthermore, my hunt coat is navy and I wear a ratcatcher.
Its a horse show not a fashion show.
[QUOTE=Summit Springs Farm;7640937]
ah, no black tack, local or any other hunter show, would you use hu8nter tack at a dressage show?[/QUOTE]
I would!!
I am pretty sure the DQs care less than the HPs about tack or color…
Come to think of it, I only recently (as in, the past 6 yrs or so) got a black dressage saddle… Before that I was showing in my very brown tack - a jumper bridle and Ainsley HJ saddle… I never got a single comment on ANY of my dressage score sheets complaining about it - to the contrary, I often got comments on our “excellent turn out” “great elbow grease” etc etc.
My point is, it doesn’t matter and it shouldn’t.
ah, no black tack, local or any other hunter show, would you use hu8nter tack at a dressage show?
If it were one show, not my chosen discipline and I didn’t plan to pursue it and I were already there… well, why not? I’m not spending thousands on a new saddle and bridle for a schooling show. I’d figure anyone who complains at that level is just a really bad ambassador for the sport.
Personally, I’d rather see more people come out and play with us then discourage them until they have everything absolutely 100% perfect.
But no show bows. Just no. That’s where I draw the line.
[QUOTE=Summit Springs Farm;7640937]
ah, no black tack, local or any other hunter show, would you use hu8nter tack at a dressage show?[/QUOTE]
Been there, done that and have the ribbons to prove it didn’t make an iota of difference to the judge.
[QUOTE=Trixie;7641139]
But no show bows. Just no. That’s where I draw the line.[/QUOTE]
Truer words…
[QUOTE=purplnurpl;7640873]
I did it.
I’m sure everyone noticed…but no one cared.
Not only did I pull the black tack but I had a short girth and a pelham with black rein converters.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p189/xckaboom/Kaboom/Boomerhunters_zpsf95b48b9.jpg[/QUOTE]
Honestly if you would have come on here and asked about this entire set up, I would have told you it’s all fine. EXCEPT that rein converter. As a judge I would have considered that unconventional and placed you below all trips that were not dangerous. Unconventional > dangerous. Especially for someone who clearly rides as well as you do. Pelham converters need not apply in the hunter ring.
Agree ^^ with Nickelodian. Please no rein convertors. I think even little children should learn how to ride with double reins on a small pony if using a pelham, otherwise put a kimberwicke on the horse if you can’t deal with two reins. A converter negates the effective action of a pelham by utilizing the curb the entire time.
[QUOTE=Summit Springs Farm;7640937]
ah, no black tack, local or any other hunter show, would you use hu8nter tack at a dressage show?[/QUOTE]
I got my butt kicked at championships a few years ago by this nice lady who showed up with horse in all hunter tack and a tail braid. How dare she!! :lol:
Yes, I see hunter riders in hunter tack in dressage shows. Who cares? Its legal.
I would definitely use black tack at a local show.
I’m a dressage rider who has black tack, but now that I have a chestnut – if I had to buy over I would do brown.
As long as it complements the horse-- go for it!
Now bling? Can’t say that is my fav. Stick with traditional choices and who care what color?
Have fun
[QUOTE=Summit Springs Farm;7640937]
ah, no black tack, local or any other hunter show, would you use hu8nter tack at a dressage show?[/QUOTE]
Every day and twice on Sunday.
Divergening…
am I the only one who thinks the leather on black tack NEVER looks as nice as brown? I have black for dressage and it’s the same brand/quality as some of my brown tack and it just NEVER looks as nice. Doesn’t have that deep, natural looking patina. To me it’s the equivalent of bottle blonde that is all one-color-- real hair has varied tones. Also, something about dye (as opposed to natural darkening) just NEVER looks as good at me. My black tack saddens me, it will never be as pretty as it’s brown sisters.
[QUOTE=vxf111;7642348]
Divergening…
am I the only one who thinks the leather on black tack NEVER looks as nice as brown? I have black for dressage and it’s the same brand/quality as some of my brown tack and it just NEVER looks as nice. Doesn’t have that deep, natural looking patina. To me it’s the equivalent of bottle blonde that is all one-color-- real hair has varied tones. Also, something about dye (as opposed to natural darkening) just NEVER looks as good at me. My black tack saddens me, it will never be as pretty as it’s brown sisters.[/QUOTE]
Are you discriminating against black tack? Does black tack need to go to the NAACP? You know there is such a thing as the Civil Rights Act?? It’s 2014 my friend, 2014.
[QUOTE=Nickelodian;7642362]
Are you discriminating against black tack? Does black tack need to go to the NAACP? You know there is such a thing as the Civil Rights Act?? It’s 2014 my friend, 2014.[/QUOTE]
LOL. I think my actual beef is with DYED tack. But I guess there’s no way to do black without dye. Even though… aren’t some cows black? LOL.
vxf: I agree with you. Black tack just does not have the same feel as brown. It all seems stiff to me…even the really good stuff.
Hunting tack is traditionally sold in black or havana/brown.
(It is a mistake to imagine that brown tack is not dyed.)
Natural tanning; http://www.jfjbaker.co.uk/the-process/
Chemical tanning; http://www.leathersellers.co.uk/content.php?pid=96
[QUOTE=Equibrit;7642445]
Hunting tack is traditionally sold in black or havana/brown.
(It is a mistake to imagine that brown tack is not dyed.)
Natural tanning; http://www.jfjbaker.co.uk/the-process/
Chemical tanning; http://www.leathersellers.co.uk/content.php?pid=96[/QUOTE]
I’m not sure all brown tack is dyed, my English style tack comes a very light natural looking color? Or maybe just less dyed or differently dyed? Black tack never seems to have the same look and feel-- even identical brands of bridles. I bought a black top of the line ADT and a brown top of the line ADT at the same time… the leather on the black one never got as supple and doesn’t have that same depth of color.
My Albion jump saddle is either such a dark havanna that it’s almost black, or it’s just a faded black. It looks smashing on my dark bay. Way better than anything mahogany or caramel or newmarket looks. I would ride in it in the hunter ring any day. I have bigger things to worry about in the hunter ring than the colour of my saddle and what people are thinking of it…mainly not duffing the long run to the single diagonal oxer. 
[QUOTE=mvp;7639721]
I say this as someone who owns brown dressage tack. [/QUOTE]
I like brown dressage tack! I think it looks so class and elegant. Also, I have two chestnuts who I hate in black because it looks like Halloween :lol:.
No shiny browbands in hunters. The fanciest you can go is raised/padded/fancy stitched.
Black in hunters isn’t ideal, but it’s not a big deal, especially at a schooling show.
[QUOTE=vxf111;7642584]
I’m not sure all brown tack is dyed, my English style tack comes a very light natural looking color? Or maybe just less dyed or differently dyed? Black tack never seems to have the same look and feel-- even identical brands of bridles. I bought a black top of the line ADT and a brown top of the line ADT at the same time… the leather on the black one never got as supple and doesn’t have that same depth of color.[/QUOTE]
undyed, tanned leather is either a) almost white or b) a bluish hue depending on the process used, so your orange “natural” color is still dyed. Undyed leather would be pretty unattractive on a bridle and would take several months of oiling and leaving in the sun to produce a medium or dark brown color.
Confession time:
I ride dressage.
In my brown jump saddle.
With my black snaffle bridle.
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