Barisone Aftermath: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity, And Then

[Ghazzu]

@Seeker1

I look for reasons and opportunities to help. It makes me happy to help others be the best they can be.

You know how they tell you on the airplane to “put your own oxygen mask on first”?
You might want to ponder the implications there.

[MorganSercu]

Hmm. If I am a sadist and Seeker1 keeps responding to me in particular, that indicates Seeker1 is a masochist. Naturally, she could use the ignore function if it really didn’t give her pleasure to engage.

[Sdel]

@Angela_Freda

@Sdel

Is this possibly a 12 Step thing?

Well, yes, except rather than working the program, this would be working the program.
Manipulation of the steps and the themes, as we see here, is counter to a commitment to what the program espouses and offers.

Wouldn’t be the first person to be doing so…,

[Seeker1]

Lauren didn’t call CPS. Safe Sport did that. Lauren was PAYING to be the center of Michael’s attention. MHG was apparently sleeping with Michael to be the center of his attention. Michael apparently needed cash as he had just given a significant chunk to ex wife who finally left the property where Michael and MHG were living. Michael and MHG apparently were having a fight about that… and Lauren stepped into it without knowing Michael was in the middle of a huge battle.

[Ghazzu]

@Seeker1

No one told her to leave except mhg who was not the business owner or the wife of the business owner.

Then why on earth was your own husband at a meeting with a tenancy lawyer in order to negotiate an exit strategy?

[Seeker1]

I believe it was like when a mother says one thing and the dad says another. The kids don’t know what to do.

[Sdel]

@Seeker1

Lauren didn’t call CPS. Safe Sport did that. Lauren was PAYING to be the center of Michael’s attention.

So, we have a fundamental misunderstanding of the trainer-client relationship……

[trubandloki]

@Seeker1

Lauren didn’t call CPS. Safe Sport did that. Lauren was PAYING to be the center of Michael’s attention. MHG was apparently sleeping with Michael to be the center of his attention. Michael apparently needed cash as he had just given a significant chunk to ex wife who finally left the property where Michael and MHG were living. Michael and MHG apparently were having a fight about that… and Lauren stepped into it without knowing Michael was in the middle of a huge battle.

Too many things in this post that are wrong to list…

@Ghazzu

@Seeker1

No one told her to leave except mhg who was not the business owner or the wife of the business owner.

Then why on earth was your own husband at a meeting with a tenancy lawyer in order to negotiate an exit strategy?

It feels like we are going backwards, like the trial never happened. How can someone who was there just pretend that the things said under oath, by their side even, did not happen?

@Seeker1

I believe it was like when a mother says one thing and the dad says another. The kids don’t know what to do.

Really? This is not a kid and they were not her parents. You freaking leave. Why would you (general) want to stay with a trainer who is openly fighting with their girlfriend or doing any of the other horrible stuff you now claim was happening? Leave, go find another trainer. Go to the trainer that your very own father arranged for you to be moved to. Take those friends that offered up on the horse transport.
This is not a difficult thing. I am not sure why you are making it a difficult thing. If MB sucked that much…leave.

It feels like there are two answers that would fit almost every post by Seeker right now.
Choice 1 - Go listen to the recorded trial, it is there.
Choice 2 - If your horse trainer is doing that (whatever that horrible thing is) then leave.

[Ghazzu]

@Sdel

Okay….we are starting to get very heavily into the therapy lingo. Saw it some in an earlier post as well…

I wonder if there’s some random therapist phrase generator out there on the web. It might help explain some of the weird posts.

[Seeker1]

I really have no idea what her option but judging from the fact that after the shooting the horses were split up in different barns and states it couldn’t have been simple.

[Sdel]

@Ghazzu

@Sdel

Okay….we are starting to get very heavily into the therapy lingo. Saw it some in an earlier post as well…

I wonder if there’s some random therapist phrase generator out there on the web. It might help explain some of the weird posts.

Sounds like we have moved from a manic episode into a depressive episode to me….maybe with some self medication thrown in.

But the therapy lingo sounds legit and how my ex-DIL would use it as a weapon….

[trubandloki]

@Seeker1

I really have no idea what her option but judging from the fact that after the shooting the horses were split up in different barns and states it couldn’t have been simple.

Choice 1 - Go listen to the recorded trial, it is there.
Choice 2 - If your horse trainer is doing that (whatever that horrible thing is) then leave.

She has had horses at multiple places all along, now is not any different.

[Maria]

@Seeker1

Lauren didn’t call CPS. Safe Sport did that. Lauren was PAYING to be the center of Michael’s attention. MHG was apparently sleeping with Michael to be the center of his attention. Michael apparently needed cash as he had just given a significant chunk to ex wife who finally left the property where Michael and MHG were living. Michael and MHG apparently were having a fight about that… and Lauren stepped into it without knowing Michael was in the middle of a huge battle.

In the real world of professional dressage trainers, in my experience, a client does NOT pay to be the center of any trainers attention. They pay to have the SHARED attention of the trainer with ALL the other clients that trainer has.

Do you sleep with your husband? Are you the center of your husbands life? Shouldn’t you be the center of your husbands life?

Again, how in the world do you think you or anyone in your family has the right to say who can sleep with whom?!

I am aghast

[Seeker1]

they were split further

[Seeker1]

There were probably some misunderstandings in many areas of this arrangement. This was one of them.

[Unfforgettable]

LK was paying to be the center of attention? LK is a low level average talent amateur and was simply a client paying for training and lessons. And not all that dedicated from the sounds of it, skipping lessons and shows. MHG is a professional and is very talented and dedicated, no surprise she would connect with MB romantically, and she certainly wasn’t sleeping with MB in order to be the center of attention. Trying to compare the two is like (rotten) apples and oranges. That’s quite a stretch.

After reading tens of thousands of pages on numerous threads, I think what it all boils down to is this:

If you set out to drive someone over the edge, it’s unreasonable to be surprised when you succeed.

[dacasodivine]

@RND

@dacasodivine

What? There absolutely is doubt who shot LK. MB might have brought the gun to the scene but there’s no evidence he shot the gun because the incompetent cops didn’t collect this little thing called evidence.

Let me hypothesize. MB shows up to confront RG and LK and at some point a struggle breaks out and he drops/looses the gun. RG and LK beat/choked MB unconscious. In here somewhere the lawyer calls. LK doesn’t answer because she starts wondering how she can turn this to her advantage. She then hatches the idea to call the lawyer back (or wait for him to call again) and declare that MB is there and has a gun. She then has RG shoot her in the shoulder thinking he shouldn’t hit anything vital.

Alas, we will likely never know what actually happened that day leading up to LK getting shot.

This scenario is absolutely insane. I can kind of understand that many of you are cultish when it comes to supporting MB, but some of you need to dial it down a little bit. MB admitted to his attorney that he took the gun out of the safe and drove to the house where LK and RG were living. LK was shot twice in the chest. To get to the point where you want to believe so hard that RG is the one who shot LK twice in the chest, you might as well just make up a story that a Unicorn with opposable thumbs showed up and stole the gun from MB and shot LK.

It is so unbelievably crazy to me that there are people here who actually still believe that someone other than MB shot LK, and some of them actually believe that the jury verdict reflects that belief. If the jury had believed that MB did not shoot LK, they would have found him not guilty. That they found him not guilty by reason of insanity indicates that they believe he shot her. Anyone who has been following this story since August 2019 who isn’t a complete idiot has known all along that MB shot LK.

Funny how so many new people showed up to defend LK after I posted this crazy hypothesis and mommy came back with a vengeance…

[Maria]

I would say so

[eggbutt]

@Fiesta01

@eggbutt Don’t forget to update us on your foal watch.

She’s holding on. I finally went to bed at 4.

[Seeker1]

Should be many lessons learned for barn owners here.