Barisone assessment

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Joanne

and how would protection orders work when MB is healthy enough to be coaching students at a show and have LK show up there? (if he is not permanently banned by the powers that be)

I think there are actual SafeSport provisions where they can simply ban one person from attending a show when another specific person is present.

Frankly, it seems like this case might be an ideal one for that particular provision.

Also… hasn’t it been a while since LK has shown any horse? The whole issue might be a non issue in the long run…

[cutter99]

@Seeker1

I not trying to change anyone. Im not that powerful. I am asking you all to cut it out. You all know what u are doing. It is wrong.

No @Seeker1, telling the truth and asking that others do the same is not wrong. Holding others accountable for their bad actions is not wrong. Calling out lies and liars is not wrong.

[Seeker1]

Exactly

[KurPlexed]

This thread will be shut down soon if everyone keeps engaging.

[MorganSercu]

https://psycnet.apa.org/fulltext/2021-48823-001.html

Addiction and the Dark Triad of Personality

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK556001/

[Seeker1]

So funny that we are doing the same thing

[FitzE]

Would there be a first in time/first in right approach with respect to the two FL dwellings? I.e., MB bought his years ago whereas JK bought knowing full well where MB’s home was. If there were issues involved with that proximity, would the first party who bought in the area get to stay put and the party who bought much later with full knowledge of how close they were would need to accommodate?

[LilRanger]

@ekat

@Maria

If a Protective Order is issued in NJ, would a separate Protective Order have to be issued in FL

Very likely, but with a fresh order from one state in place, that doesn’t seem like it would be too difficult. I think.

I think Florida is a “registration” state,rather than a “domestication” state. Meaning you register your existing RO, and if it complies with FLA laws, it’s recognized and enforced as though a Fla court issued it, you don’t have to re-litigate the facts to get a FLA court-issued RO.

[RHdobes563]

@Synthesis

Pretty sure I saw a mob documentary where that method included nylon netting for the slicing effect when combined with the lift and softening of decomposition.

Eeewwwww!

[ekat]

@FitzE

Would there be a first in time/first in right approach with respect to the two FL dwellings? I.e., MB bought his years ago whereas JK bought knowing full well where MB’s home was. If there were issues involved with that proximity, would the first party who bought in the area get to stay put and the party who bought much later with full knowledge of how close they were would need to accommodate?

I mean, if they stick within the terms of any orders, the actual residence shouldn’t be a problem.

For example, I had tenants, separate units, that had OOP’s against each other. Nothing I could terminate either lease for - this was their own drama that didn’t involve me, so I had to ride out their leases.

Anywho, one of them called the cops because the other was breaking the order (allegedly). Cops came out with a measuring tape and made it perfectly clear to each what the order covered. Things got nice and quiet after that.

[Ghazzu]

@eggbutt

Um, did ANYONE ever say the rescuers were videoing anything ?

No. I referenced LK’s court testimony and S1 appeared to conflate it with the original incident, either deliberately or mistakenly–at this point, I can’t tell which.

[ekat]

@LilRanger

I think Florida is a “registration” state,rather than a “domestication” state. Meaning you register your existing RO, and if it complies with FLA laws, it’s recognized and enforced as though a Fla court issued it, you don’t have to re-litigate the facts to get a FLA court-issued RO.

That would make it super easy then.

[Ghazzu]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

The whole issue might be a non issue in the long run…

I expect it might be possible to arrange ride times in such a way as to eliminate the necessity of contact.

[Seeker1]

Please dont put words in my mouth. I am happy that michael may get the help he needs.

[ekat]

@LilRanger

I think Florida is a “registration” state,rather than a “domestication” state. Meaning you register your existing RO, and if it complies with FLA laws, it’s recognized and enforced as though a Fla court issued it, you don’t have to re-litigate the facts to get a FLA court-issued RO.

Can I just tell you I love the way you explain things? It makes everything easy to understand.

[hut-ho78]

@MHM

@McGurk

Add in confusion about the number of shots, number of bullet wounds, the helicopter ride that wasn’t,

To me, that seemed like the most glaring example of why every single word from that source would need to be verified. The helicopter story was repeated many, many, many times, usually with exclamation marks and capital letters, to add dramatic effect to the story.

And she did not discover that she was never even on a helicopter until years after the fact?? Seriously?!?

Making fun of her helicopter memory gets repeated again and again. She was passed out by then and spent the next several days in an induced coma then on pain meds. Her dreams and nightmares may have supplanted specific memories.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@McGurk

And until somebody presents solid evidence that he did, I’m not even convinced he brought the gun to the scene OR pulled the trigger unless it was during a struggle with the dog, the weapon or LK and RG.

There was a stunning lack of testimony or acknowledgment of RG’s broken hand. We heard all about it pre-trial. And he remembered it well enough to post on FB about it after the trial, but during the trial he acted like he didn’t know what the defense was talking about in regards to a hand injury.

You do not forget about a broken hand that requires surgery to fix. However, based on the location of the break, I have always wondered if it was caused by MB wrenching the gun out of his hand. Also, the mismatch of MB using his non dominant hand to shoot LK in the chest but needing to swap to his dominant hand to aim at RG. That was always nonsensical.

I have not seen anything that has made me not think that RG shot LK to cover up the fact that they thought RG had killed MB by using a choke hold and their beating of him and dog attack.

You have a vivid imagination.

[hut-ho78]

@MHM

@BigMama1

If I were her, or anyone involved in this case, I wouldn’t allow filming at my home. There are too many crazies out there who would scour the footage for any identifying details and figure out exactly where I lived. No thanks.

That may be true, but it seems like it’s already quite easy for anyone to figure out where she lives. Haven’t people here on the BB already identified her address in Loxahatchee?

I’m not saying anyone should post the address here, at all. Just pointing out that it seems like people have already figured it out from information that is readily available online if you know where to look.

Too much information about where she lives and where MHG lives has already been posted. Please don’t encourage anyone to post it again. If y’all are wrong and MB is still a danger to himself or others and is fooling everyone, I wouldn’t want to be either of those two. May they be safe and successful and may he recover and rebuild his life.

[Joanne]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

I think there are actual SafeSport provisions where they can simply ban one person from attending a show when another specific person is present.

Frankly, it seems like this case might be an ideal one for that particular provision.

Also… hasn’t it been a while since LK has shown any horse? The whole issue might be a non issue in the long run…

Even if LK is not competing, I could see her finding out when MB might be at a show and then showing up just to cause trouble.

[cutter99]

@hut-ho78

@MHM

@McGurk

Add in confusion about the number of shots, number of bullet wounds, the helicopter ride that wasn’t,

To me, that seemed like the most glaring example of why every single word from that source would need to be verified. The helicopter story was repeated many, many, many times, usually with exclamation marks and capital letters, to add dramatic effect to the story.

And she did not discover that she was never even on a helicopter until years after the fact?? Seriously?!?

Making fun of her helicopter memory gets repeated again and again. She was passed out by then and spent the next several days in an induced coma then on pain meds. Her dreams and nightmares may have supplanted specific memories.

But yet Lauren claims to have a crystal clear memory of all that happened!

You cannot play it both ways! Which one is it?