Barisone assessment

[StB.YM]

The lawyers on YouTube discussing the JD/AH trial said its very standard to file an appeal.

[LilRanger]

Yes, is not what the attorneys think, is the clients thoughts that drive litigation. Attorneys can only suggest or quit.

[3PonyFarm]

Thanks

[Knights_Mom]

Ha ha it wasn’t me

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[eggbutt]

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[Angela_Freda]

Note, RG states, after “you move again I will break it. I will break your f’in arm!”
"He’s moving. I gotta put the phone down."

[FitzE]

@CanteringCarrot

while we may see something as totally irrational, or even pointless, others don’t see it that way or can even make some sort of opportunity out of it.

The biggest example of this, for me, is how RG keeps noting they were absolutely shocked to find out there was a shovel in the truck. That as a HUGE bombshell gotcha for them.

For me, I struggled to think of a barn truck I’d ever seen without a shovel in it. I mean that sincerely. Every farm truck I’ve even been in had a random collection are normal farm implements rattling around in the back. Some in the US even had shotguns in a rack across the rear windscreen. But a shovel was standard barn vehicle equipment. I could never have twisted that into a bombshell piece of evidence to prove a murder plot. It would not have occurred to me in a million years.

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@StB.YM

@RHdobes563

The back screen door is different. It is very old and doesn’t latch at all. I have a hook-and-eye on it to secure it closed. Now, when I go outside, two of my three dogs will stand at that door and watch me. The two will act as if leaving is impossible. The third will push her nose against the door, open it, and follow me outside to the (fenced-in) yard.

Our patio door at our old place was like this. The screen door never locked well and my cat learned to open the door just wide enough to slip out. Thankfully, the patio was enclosed so the worst she ever did was lie down outside.

If Rosie got out by herself or was unintentionally let out, maybe no one testified about it because they didn’t know? If they tried to guess or say anything other than “I don’t know” (if they really didn’t know), it would probably get called out as hearsay. Or maybe it was agreed upon before hand, with the judge, to not go into it? I’m not very familiar with court proceedings.

This was no ordinary dog. This was a dog that had just bitten someone, I think Cox. Failure to secure such a dog then would be a highly actionable lawsuit. I hear dog bite cases get a lot of $$$ and given previous bites seems an easy case.

So to my mind either someone intentionally let the dog out meaning the testified narrative was a lie OR there is failure to properly secure a known biter which subjects the owner to law suit.

Very creative.

[Sdel]

@Angela_Freda

Note, RG states, after “you move again I will break it. I will break your f’in arm!”
"He’s moving. I gotta put the phone down."

This is blatantly a speakerphone call, so interesting.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@StB.YM

@RHdobes563

The back screen door is different. It is very old and doesn’t latch at all. I have a hook-and-eye on it to secure it closed. Now, when I go outside, two of my three dogs will stand at that door and watch me. The two will act as if leaving is impossible. The third will push her nose against the door, open it, and follow me outside to the (fenced-in) yard.

Our patio door at our old place was like this. The screen door never locked well and my cat learned to open the door just wide enough to slip out. Thankfully, the patio was enclosed so the worst she ever did was lie down outside.

If Rosie got out by herself or was unintentionally let out, maybe no one testified about it because they didn’t know? If they tried to guess or say anything other than “I don’t know” (if they really didn’t know), it would probably get called out as hearsay. Or maybe it was agreed upon before hand, with the judge, to not go into it? I’m not very familiar with court proceedings.

This was no ordinary dog. This was a dog that had just bitten someone, I think Cox. Failure to secure such a dog then would be a highly actionable lawsuit. I hear dog bite cases get a lot of $$$ and given previous bites seems an easy case.

So to my mind either someone intentionally let the dog out meaning the testified narrative was a lie OR there is failure to properly secure a known biter which subjects the owner to law suit.

Very creative.

Well given that from the inside the door opens IN and not OUT not so creative.

[Angela_Freda]

Hadn’t that dog bitten or threatened others, prior to biting RC?
Talk about a liability. Hard to find a place to rent with a dog with that kind of bad behavior and lacking training or supervision.

[Knights_Mom]

@Angela_Freda

Hadn’t that dog bitten or threatened others, prior to biting RC?
Talk about a liability. Hard to find a place to rent with a dog with that kind of bad behavior and lacking training or supervision.

I believe Kujo had bitten others.

[RHdobes563]

About the possibility that rain washed the blood off of the phones–

I have mentioned somewhere/some thread where I am an addict of “Forensic Files”, “The New Detectives”, and similar shows. It has been stated multiple times that no matter HOW HARD someone tries to remove traces of blood (bleach, steam cleaners, etc.), there is something (iron?) in the blood which remains. The police spray something (I forget) which makes the presence/lack of blood glow in the dark. (I’m sure if the blood was visible, they wouldn’t have to spray).

So, IF the rain washed all blood off of the phones, the police could have sprayed for it. That would entail, though, actually doing forensic work at the scene. And well…

Last night, in one program, the police found a drop of blood ('size of pencil eraser) which helped solve the crime. Oh, and there was a “documentary” shown about how the television program, “Forensic Files”, was created and developed. As good or better than the programs themselves–I highly recommend it.

And I have a new television obsession–“See No Evil” (all the seasons on Discovery+). The programs tell how a crime is solved using video/security cameras from businesses and homes. Sometimes the evidence is so miniscule, but they find it. If someone at THIS crime scene had ONLY had an active security camera…

[Sdel]

@Sdel

@Angela_Freda

Note, RG states, after “you move again I will break it. I will break your f’in arm!”
"He’s moving. I gotta put the phone down."

This is blatantly a speakerphone call, so interesting.

The other interesting thing…he mentions the gun is underneath MB before mentioning breaking his arm….how did MB break RG’s hand in the struggle and then RG break MB’s arm using a broken hand?

[Warmblood1]

@hut-ho78

I googled it to find out how it is often used. Comes right up in Hunter S Thompson articles. Not one reference to Jimmy Cagney movies, The Godfather, Scarface, Ozark, Zero Zero Zero…

Why lie? That is not what google results in. When searching the exact terms on google, 39 results occur. Only one of those results have anything to do with Hunter. S. Thompson. That is not even what he says. When searching google for the exact term “Finish the Bastard,” the most results pulled are from an Israeli situation where Israel accuses China of anti-semitism. The reporting agency says “Bring it on. Just finish the bastard.” All of the comments and information are in Israeli. The single result to Hunter S. Thompson regarding a letter containing the quote somewhat close to “Finish the Bastard” is actually - “ Just to finish the Bastard is enough.” However, the letter has so many serious racial slurs that I can not post the letter to the forum. Why any Hunter S. Thompson fan would idealize this letter is beyond me. It is not a well known letter but part of a series of letters that were sold. Who wants to immortalize such a racist letter? The Rum Diaries also had extremely strong racial undertones (references to Nazism and is probably his most racist work). Why Rum Diaries and this letter would be significant or a favorite piece to any Thompson fan is beyond me. It makes the quote “Finish the Bastard” even more disturbing if it is actually pulled from this letter because the letter is so profoundly racist.

[EADoug]

@Warmblood1

@hut-ho78

I googled it to find out how it is often used. Comes right up in Hunter S Thompson articles. Not one reference to Jimmy Cagney movies, The Godfather, Scarface, Ozark, Zero Zero Zero…

Why lie? That is not what google results in. When searching the exact terms on google, 39 results occur. Only one of those results have anything to do with Hunter. S. Thompson.

The beauty of the Google Algorithms. Every single one of us that Google the phrase will get different results. I used IMDB yesterday for a show I was watching. I currently get a whole string of movie / tv results for a show called “The Bastard Executioner” (that I’ve never heard of).

[Sdel]

@Warmblood1

The reporting agency says “Bring it on. Just finish the bastard.” All of the comments and information are in Israeli.

Interesting….LK and the fam are Jewish.

[Warmblood1]

@EADoug

The beauty of the Google Algorithms. Every single one of us that Google the phrase will get different results. I used IMDB yesterday for a show I was watching. I currently get a whole string of movie / tv results for a show called “The Bastard Executioner” (that I’ve never heard of).

Google the phrase to include every word by using quotations, not just any word of the phrase. When googling any word of the phrase you will get endless (and irrelevant) results. Google “Finish the Bastard” and you will get results of the actual quote.

ETA: HH is saying that the phrase “Finish the bastard” is a famous Hunter S. Thompson quote. It is not. That is not even what Thompson says exactly. The closest thing is pulled from a letter written by Thompson that is extremely racist and if the term came from that letter, I find it even more disturbing.

[EADoug]

@Warmblood1

Google the phrase to include every word by using quotations, not just any word of the phrase. When googling any word of the phrase you will get endless (and irrelevant) results. Google “Finish the Bastard” and you will get results of the actual quote.

To be fair, this changed my results… But now they are totally random and still not yours